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[Ari Gold Bawse]

@TheLukieBaby sounding depressed on tha boxing voice radio show

taking that mayfield loss hard, said the whole bay area took a L

Kovalev has not even fought a Dawson, Cloud, or Boone for @charknicks to be questioning Stevenson's resume on behalf of Kovalev

Kovalev has beaten Boone twice actually

 

[patscorpio]

@TheLukieBaby sounding depressed on tha boxing voice radio show

taking that mayfield loss hard, said the whole bay area took a L

karim is his actual boy though...he knows that nikka...thats why hes taking it hard

 

[Newzz]

@TheLukieBaby sounding depressed on tha boxing voice radio show

taking that mayfield loss hard, said the whole bay area took a L



Kovalev has beaten Boone twice actually

Well, I take that back about Boone.

But Cloud and Dawson are both better fighters than Kovalev has been in the ring with and I'd like to see him against them as well before I say Kovalev is the truth.

 

[Big Boss]

You're full of shyt. Acting like Boone is just another sub .500 fighter when he has made a career off of giving up and comers hell (he put Kovalev and Ward down too)

If HBO wasn't low balling these guys the fight would've been signed.

http://www.boxingscene.com/adonis-stevensons-promoter-reveals-on-hbo-kovalev--76193

'Stevenson ran to Showtime' He's about to be lined up with a hall of famer who has made a career off of beating guys just like Kovalev and Stevenson.

Get your head out of your ass. HBO along with TR is ruining boxing. They are at the forefront of this cold war and because of that we are missing out on the best fights.

ward/rodriguez got 3.15 millions dollars

I don't blame adonis

 

[charknicks]

Kovalev has not even fought a Dawson, Cloud, or Boone for @charknicks to be questioning Stevenson's resume on behalf of Kovalev

Lol, actually Kovalev has fought Boone, twice. Dont let that fact get in the way of a good story/ rant though. Carry on.

Thanks for chiming in though. I am not questioning on behalf of anyone. Just stating the facts. No sides taken here.

 

[charknicks]

I wonder if behind the scenes HBO didn't offer the money - basically saying they don't want to promote Stevenson as a PFP fighter, had a lot to due with:
a) his age (his reign on top probably won't be long)
b) his past. I could see it being hard to promote Stevenson if you are constantly asked about his past. He may have turned over a new leaf, but it is still near impossible to get past his past.


On a side note...I am not sure what beating Hopkins really tells us about Stevenson. A good showing obviously means he is a good fighter, but Hopkins is 48 and has been relying on setting traps in the ring and a top tiered fighter should be able to win.
Still have the feeling that both Stevenson and Kovalev are exciting fighters, but with the Chad Dawson era and now these two...they may be exciting, but I don't think we are seeing historically really good fighters here.

I appreciate when someone can see both sides of the story and be impartial.

Hopkins is damn near 50, but now its a major win, and if/when Stevenson beats him (if they even fight), people will be like "but, but he beat Hopkins past his prime" like we have people on here say anytime a fighter is beaten. Either that dude is not elite enough, or past his prime.

I just want to see good fights, and Stevenson/Kovalev is a much better fight to watch then Stevenson/Hopkins. Thats all.

 

[charknicks]

ward/rodriguez got 3.15 millions dollars

I don't blame adonis

I dont blame Stevenson either for leaving if he gets that much money. Lets just see if he gets $3.15 million/ fight. I dont think Broner is getting $3 million/ fight on Showtime, and he brings much more to the table then Stevenson does.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

So HBO gives Ward/Rodriguez 3.15 Milly

But only wants to pay Superman/Russian 2 Milly?? Even tho Adonis gets better ratings then Ward

Adonis making twice his career payday to fight at Showtime

To some things up HBO is dumbass

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Kovalev has looked damn good in his fights. But c'mon who has he fought that's even in the league of the Dawson knockout?

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Kovalev has looked damn good in his fights. But c'mon who has he fought that's even in the league of the Dawson knockout?

I definitely don't think Kovalev has a great resume, but Stevenson't doesn't impress me either. I never have been a fan of Dawson...be a champion with no power and questionable chin.
And Stevenson got Dawson after Ward knocked him down 9,000 times.
Right now I find both Kovalev and Stevenson to look like the two best fighters in the divison...but neither has really proven a lot yet.

 

[WhodatWhoadi]

That shyt about adonis is disgusting, And I dont think Kovalev is racist probably a little ignorant due to his russian upbringing, and I read that interview seem like some down south bamma got mad because some eurocac was styling on him and got real ignorant. He was probably heated about the situation and made a dumb comment. "Sunburnt people" real tough breh its the end of the world!! its just a dumb foot in the mouth comment, ignorant but not racist, if thats racist then floyd mayweather is racist for the shyt about Pacquaio way back..yall remember

I feel the exact same way about that situation too, a dumb foot in the mouth ignorant comment. Or maybe Hopkins " I will never let a white boy beat me" comment, imagine if it was reverse! Whiteys were trying to say hopkins was racist, naw just a dumb comment,hopkinds does not scream RACIST to me either.

If Kovalev was hardcore racist his own trainers/corner would of said something, hell I see Curtis stevenson around him and he a hood dude too, you know damn well if kovalev said something out of bounds Curtis would of popped him...would get his ass beat after the hit tho NOW with all that said....HOPKINS BEATS BOTH.OLE!

 

[Q Money]

Darnell Boone thinks Kovalev beats Stevenson

KOD:Who is the hardest puncher that you have fought?

DB: The hardest puncher was [Sergey] Kovalev. He knows exactly how to use his height and leverage with punches. He keeps you on the outside, away from getting on the inside on him. He fights tall.

KOD: As we already touched on, you fought both Sergey Kovalev and Adonis Stevenson. Fight fans have begun clamoring for that explosive showdown at 175. If it happens, who do you foresee as the winner, and how?

DB: Kovalev, because he’s the more sound boxer. Both of them are strong and it’s going to be whoever lands the shot first, but I would go with Kovalev on that. They both have what it takes to knock each other out. Both of them are strong, but the thing with Adonis is that he does the same thing in each fight. Paw with the jab, paw with the jab, paw with the jab, left. He never really mixes it up. With Kovalev, he’s throwing combinations, he’s moving, and punching off angles."

http://fitefansho.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/ko-digest-interview-darnell-boone-im.html

 

[theflyest]

I'm reading an old article of Winky Wright turning down Oscar Dela hoya's offer of 6 million. I remember at the time thinking what the hell is this guy thinking

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/26/Sports/Wright_vs_Mayweather_.shtml

I definitely have gained more of an appreciation for Oscar in recent years.His level of opposition was incredible

 

[patscorpio]

winky never made the most sound business moves.....turned down oscar, turned down the taylor rematch, and the inactivity for no good reason..dude was a problem to negotiate with and it led to how the tail end of his career played out like it did

 

[Big Boss]

Winky must thought he was a star