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[Apollo Creed]

I’m not arguing any of these points. I just talked about giving him credit for his 2017-2022 run

My statement is building on after a run like that and his age he can do what he wants just don't hold a division hostage

 

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[chunky_mcdaniels]

That’s a bit harsh.
I criticize him heavily for turning his back to challenges after the Bivol L but I’d include Jacobs and Callum Smith too among the “difficult” opponents even though Smith was proven to be no match at all. Still at the time he was a very legit opponent, so was BJS and Jacobs. 8 legit fights out of 15 is not bad at all

Canelo had a great run from the first GGG fight in 2017 through the last GGG fight in 2022. Only had 2 tune up fights out of 10 in that period and one of those was a mandatory. You have to give that to him.

The problem is what he’s done (and continues to do) in the last 2 years.

Yeah thats fair re Smith, Jacobs was gallant and strong willed, but it's hard to argue he was in the mix before or after. Yildrim, Rocky Fielding, Tiny fukking John Ryder, Jermell Charlo (a fukking super welterweight ffs). fukk all that post Gennady to Gennady 2 talk, that simplifies the discussion and places his career in segments, which is flattering. His career since GGG 2 is has some top calibre fights, but many suspect moves, both in a side tactics against top fighters, and many one sided match ups.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yeah thats fair re Smith, Jacobs was gallant and strong willed, but it's hard to argue he was in the mix before or after. Yildrim, Rocky Fielding, Tiny fukking John Ryder, Jermell Charlo (a fukking super welterweight ffs). fukk all that post Gennady to Gennady 2 talk, that simplifies the discussion and places his career in segments, which is flattering. His career since GGG 2 is has some top calibre fights, but many suspect moves, both in a side tactics against top fighters, and many one sided match ups.

You call out Jermell who came from 154 Undispited to 168, so I assume you feel the Bud fight is trash too right?

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Louis had that nice, short, right hand, kept it close to his body, using his momentum and weight, clipped them right at the end of the motion with it.

Thanks for posting.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

You call out Jermell who came from 154 Undispited to 168, so I assume you feel the Bud fight is trash too right?

Both disgraceful fights in the bigger scheme.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

You call out Jermell who came from 154 Undispited to 168, so I assume you feel the Bud fight is trash too right?

Also choosing Mungiua after pump faking with that 'I don't fight Mexican's' shyt so he could avoid Benavidez. Then turns around and fights a kid who has had one fight at 168, who's fukking Mexican. But yet somehow he gets to keep those belts, it's disgusting. Now he's fighting a 147 fighter who has had one fight at 154. You can't make up bullshyt that stinks this much.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Also choosing Mungiua after pump faking with that 'I don't fight Mexican's' shyt so he could avoid Benavidez. Then turns around and fights a kid who has had one fight at 168, who's fukking Mexican. But yet somehow he gets to keep those belts, it's disgusting. Now he's fighting a 147 fighter who has had one fight at 154. You can't make up bullshyt that stinks this much.

My main thing is if you on your money your just give up 3 belts and keep 1+ Ring. You save money, and everyone knows you are top dog so at least you are not holding the division hostage