I've never heard anyone say Prov/Bradley was a robbery until today.
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.yeah I shut.your dumb ass up
chunky_mcdaniels
All Star
You're right, 147 is his now if we are being honest, he could have cleaned it out if they really wanted to.
Apprentice
RIP Doughboy Roc
Lol u and Errol Spence might’ve swapped brains retard
<<TheStandard>>
I Am A God
Honestly Tank isn't his own boss. He just does with Al and Leonard says he should do while trying to get paid. Al isn't going to have him take a risk against a guy like Shakur because unlike Mayweather-Pacquiao, that fight isn't a big enough fight to justify the risk. The Loma fight was the right combination of risk/reward as was Ryan. Devin had he stayed at 135 would have been a fight that Tank would have taken.......and I've been told this from people at PBC directly. They told me they were looking to monitor what Haney does post Top Rank because they would have looked to make that fight happen. Of course, right after they lost the Showtime deal and things changed.
I said this in another thread but Jake Paul's popularity truly shines a mirror on what boxing actually is. Jake Paul is the perfect representation of boxing. He's the semi-pro celebrity version of a prize fighter (Canelo, Tank, Floyd, Oscar). He's a brand & people will pay to see their favorite brand named fighter beat up jobbers or potentially lose to "seemingly" dangerous opponents.
I realized that the business of boxing is one big scam and it's always been this way but Floyd, as much as I love him, pushed it to the point of no return.
I mean think about it, when you wanted to watch Mike Tyson in the 80s and 90s, his opponent almost didn't matter....People would ask you "Hey you ordering the Tyson fight?" Guys like Peter McNeely, Bruce Seldon and Frank Bruno were no more than supporting casts in a movie. Once the business realized, if I'm a big enough star, I can fight jobbers forever and still get paid, we have what we have now........
Canelo has had like 4 garbage fights in a row fighting guys we know he'd beat & his fanbase will be there to watch the next one and the next one after that. As long as you throw the public an occasional bone with a tough opponent or the dance partner can create compelling story, the brand sells itself......
I went to the Boots fight last Saturday night in Philly and it hit me that every single person in that arena paid money to see Boots who was a -7000 favorite win. Jaron Ennis is 27 years old with 34 fights and yet his last 13 fights, he's never been lower than a 5-1 favorite. We're all paying to essentially see the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals except that one punch can change everything and maybe, just maybe that if it can make enough money the Harlem Globetrotters will eventually play a team that's on their level for one night before they go back to playing the Washington Generals again. That's literally what boxing is these days amongst the best and most popular fighters in the sport.
Apprentice
RIP Doughboy Roc
Yea that legalized bank robbery shyt was a funny thing to say but it was real
Fans don’t care, it’s really the true fans of the sport who do; your average fan wants to see a KO or a Mayweather-Gatti type beating
oh the opponent mattered..tyson for the most part didnt fight jobbers like that in his comeback....seldon and bruno were actual world champions at the time tyson fought them..mcneeley was prolly the only true definition of one..of course which birthed the movie " the great white hype" but that level of opp is expected when you havent fought in 4 years..they can't be jobbers that can make mike look bad...don king nearly miscalculated with buster mathis jr, who looked like a jobber but was not, and was making mike look mid before mike stopped him..after that you never saw mike fight anyone like him again..mike mixed in ranked heavies with the cupcakes like julius francis or brian nielsen
the robbery aspect i guess is the ref blowing a KD call in round 1 which should have made it 10-8 for prov instead of 10-9...bradley would have lost the fight or a draw
<<TheStandard>>
I Am A God
That's fair.....Yeah Seldon and Bruno were def bad examples but you get my point in regards to the sport itself.
OGBobbyJohnson
Veteran
hey, I know Tank is not his own boss. its these other jokers that are out here saying fighters are afraid and all that. thats not how the business works. if his team tells him to fight Shakur, he fights Shakur, if they tell him to fight Crawford, he fights Crawford, if they say tell Fulton to bring his ass up for instance, it dont matter. Tank not going to go against his team and say he want to fight whoever he wants to fight, may as well fire them.
you make great point about Jake Paul which is what really shines a light on how bad Boots team is. advisors/managers/promoters have been hypnotized in to thinking a belt is the quickest way to a payday regardless of your popularity. Jake made 40m and Mike made 20m for a fight that wasnt even a real boxing match. was a glorified exhibition, only 16 minutes, and for no sort of championship at all.
belts are more beneficial to mediocre/trash fighters. a fighter like Boots has a popularity issue. his team should have had him in with Barrios, Norman, etc...he just cant think that one belt that he was basically given is going to bring him big paydays. he needs to collect all the belts he can or start fighting some guys with names. Thurman is still around. I know he would be favored over Thurman but at least start getting some damn names on your resume.
this is why I like guys like Benevidez and Haney. they fight top available opposition when they can because their teams have confidence. if its a question of money, its not like Haney is broke as compared to Tank. Haney makes the most money for what his brand can make. Look at his last 4 or 5 fights.
nobody listening to you breh. talkin bout an 8 figure fighter going out like a bytch. lol. you would be a horrible manager. what fukkin legacy fights will net him more money? do you know what he was reported to have made against Ryan? he will make a lot more fighting Frank and Lamont than one fight with Shakur. I used to think like you until I came to the realization that what real fans want as opposed to casuals and how business works, just dont align. you been in this forum too damn long not to know better.
Im not mad at tanks bidness decisions they make perfect sense.
Im mad at his lack of desire to be great.
Both can be true, I dont think anyone with a brain if they were a fighter comcermed with making the most money would take a fight with Shakur over Lamont roach
Im mad at his lack of desire to be great.
Both can be true, I dont think anyone with a brain if they were a fighter comcermed with making the most money would take a fight with Shakur over Lamont roach