I already said in this thread it has become clear Boots may have one of the goofiest teams in Boxing. I was someone fukking with Boots and still do as a fighter but from a business standpoint his team is looking amateurish.
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I already said in this thread it has become clear Boots may have one of the goofiest teams in Boxing. I was someone fukking with Boots and still do as a fighter but from a business standpoint his team is looking amateurish.
Turki dont run Bud, but you have to look at the scenario...Bud dont have that many options if he is fighting more for legacy than money. He is going to get the same amount for most of the fighters around his weight class. the only one that stands apart financially is Canelo and Turki gave his offer and it fell apart. Bud wants Fundora because he has two belts, then he wants Tszyu likely because he has the other.
There's not much bud can do now. He's 37 and he fought cans most of his career. This is the end game that awaits everyone protecting their 0. You'll be a non draw who can't dictate who you want. We want the boots fight because we want to know what boots got more than what bud will do. We also just want to see top guys fight top guys. Bud is now chasing money that is not there.
thats fine and all but what does Virgil Ortiz gotta do with any of this and what does he add to Bud's legacy especially with his last performance.
The only Non Canelo and Non 154 Title holder fight that makes sense for Bud is Jermell Charlo
you gotta realize that Turki can only do so much too unless he is just in the business of losing money. the biggest fight in and around those weight classes was Spence vs Crawford. thats it. there are no more big fights until you go to Canelo vs Benevidez. (Canelo vs Crawford would be big but it doesnt look like that will happen at all)
the thing with Boots dumb ass is he chasing an Undisputed nobody will care about, and when he finishes Bud will be gone and that would be his best possible legacy fight right now.
Turki is in the business of losing money. All his shyt is flopping breh. AJ fight sold out not because of Turki but because of Aj. All them Saudi fights are tax write offs and the Cali card was a flop and fake sell out.
still trying to figure out who this "we" is you are talking about. no one knows who tf Boots is. he aint even fought a guy like Thurman yet.
what I am saying is, he not going to KEEP doing that and he not going to continue to overpay for fights on a consistent basis. he dont need boxing to take his money, he can give that shyt away in many other ventures.
you are super frustrated with Boots and his team but if he cant get Bud, he has to do the next best thing and that is unify. he isnt fortunate enough to come up in the PBC era when they were on free TV and Showtime and had Spence, Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Brook and all those guys at the same time. then throw in the Broners, Paulies, Maidanas, etc....there were plenty of names. WHat can he do now besides maybe call up Teo or Devin?
Boots vs Virgil and Tim is bigger than any unification he can do, Boots vs Charlo also.
If Boots wants to Stat Pad then cool, if Boots wants to become the face of Boxing then that is a different story. Boots is a gym rat and more and more it seems he is more happy stat padding but even then he coulda formally signed to PBC and pretty much had 2 of the 4 147 belts and likely 2 of the 154 Belts at his disposal. PBC loses nothing and gains everything letting Boots get these fights and becoming a star especially if Benevidez isn't translating financially thus Tank and Tim are gonna be the main moneymakers.
the best thing for boxing financially isnt the best for legacy. the two next best scenarios financially is if Spence and Manny regain titles....and wildcard maybe if Tank gets a belt at 140. all three of those are pitiful scenarios.
Big facts.
I understand that but I dont think Boots and his team wants it. Even moreso, none of those guys want Boots. he just dont bring anything to the table they need. the landscape is fukked and its hard to even mention a name like Charlo because he is pretty much retired, no matter how much he pump fakes
My thing is only dude who I can say legit bet on himself is Devin Haney. Dudes like Boots and his team talk good, and at first you feel bad for them but then when you see the reality it makes sense why they are where they are.
Most folks never knew Boots was never a PBC fighter, yet PBC gets blamed. And then Boots going the IBF path vs WBO when he was ranked in both, especially when he still had to wait for Bud Spence fight in retrospect is looking suspicious if Bud is really who he wants (the assumption iyou can make is Spence had 3/4 belts so better bang for your buck to force a fight with him, but after seeing how the Bud vs Spence fight went you can now plant the seed for an argument legit or not Boots and team felt Spence was the easier of the 2).
Boots won't get credit for unifying or undisputing a weak 147 when at 154 its an ass off nikkas who are straight savages lol.
Boots vs Lubin
Boots vs Charlo
Boots vs Tim
Boots vs Virgil
Boots vs Madromove
Boots vs MAndoza
Boots vs dude who just lost to Virgil
Boots vs Spence in Dallas
Thats bout 3 years of fights that define legacy that don't need a belt if we being real