Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[IVS]

the last thing Toney need is to take another punch anywhere and esp not to the head. He shouldnt even be allowed to have a fruit punch at this point. Shyt is outrageous

 

[IVS]

he isnt but ppl do avoid the fukk outta him lol...hitchins is talking about needing another tuneup after saturday when he has a clear path to fight him

Richardson Bytchens looking like a whole bish right now. LMFAO! Him and Sneakur are a bunch of fuxn capper-yappers.

 

[UpAndComing]

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

The same PBC that did this to him?

I love when ya'll ask disingenuous questions that you already know the answer to

 

[MoshpitMazi]

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

Cus he a weirdo.

I'm off the wagon until he signs a fight fr

 

[threattonature]

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

He reminds me of Joe Budden where he refuses to take a deal until he gets paid what he feels he's worth. It's that old saying about how you're only worth what you can negotiate. If nobody is willing to pay you what you worth then you either got to find a way to do it yourself or lower that asking price.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Y'all let's have a conversation,

I like subrial Matias... A LOT.


It's not crazy to think he beats all the champs at 140 (and tank) right ?


I feel like bro is a monster and I think he stops pitbull ugly and early too. Mexicans stay gassing up this pitbull nikka too but I don't get it. He doesn't really move the needle for me, B+ level at best that's getting gassed due to taking tank 12 when tank was fighting one handed and smoked him.


Am I glazing or on the right track?

I think he beats Cruz but loses to Haney and Teo
Haney beats everyone at 140, he could outbox Matias and Teo is a very style dependant fighter but unfortunately for Matias his style is exactly what Teo shines against.

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Wtf led to these two beefing??

 

[reservoirdogs]

The same PBC that did this to him?

I love when ya'll ask disingenuous questions that you already know the answer to

Back when they pretended for years he was a fraud who's fighting easy opposition while the PBC guys fight each other in the A league only for Bud to bush their top guy worse than the likes of Jose Benavidez and Mean Machine
Now he's "bad for business", yeah I bet he was for PBC, they were getting ready to feed Spence to Canelo in no time had Bud not beat him the way he did

 

[patscorpio]

 

[patscorpio]

Wtf led to these two beefing??

Random twitter beef..that's all

 

[HTXBreh]

Yall hate on Lara but he beat the hell out his last 3 opponents

 

[Black_Jesus]

dude is a poor business man and is negotiating his ego more so than good business. Nobody who does business with Al has ever complaining about money and some could argue Al set the precedent of getting fighters pay days they don't deserve which lowers their incentive to take challenges.

I "heard" PBC offered Bud 3 fight deal of Boots Lubin and Mell after the Spence thing was confirmed over earlier this year and he was like nah. Is this true? who knows.

And then there was the thing about Tim's Manager saying casually Bud wants 15 Ms (it was alleged they began talking to each other earlier this year too and the Thurman fight likely came from Bud not going).

And then we see how pissed Fundora's manager gets when Bud gets mentioned lol

It comes down to which bullshyt rumor you wanna believe because if it is true he was offered Boots, Lubin, and Mell notice how none of these people have belts at 154 or higher when we know Crawford is looking to be champ in a 4th division.. Also I'm not sure where you heard the bullshyt Rumor that Bud wants $15m for tzsyu but notice how Tszyu aint apart of the actual 3 fight deal you claimed you "heard" he was offered.. And also at what point would Crawford and Tszyu ever have been in any realistic talks with each other when they were both contractually locked to other fights.. Spence aint announce he needed eye surgery and the rematch was off until after Tsyzu and Thurman was announced.. Some may call that a coincidence.. nikkas with common sense can see dirty politics at play.. That anger you see from Fundura manager is just fear.. Same fear you seen from PBC when they tried everything to keep Spence away from Bud

 

[Apollo Creed]

It comes down to which bullshyt rumor you wanna believe because if it is true he was offered Boots, Lubin, and Mell notice how none of these people have belts at 154 or higher when we know Crawford is looking to be champ in a 4th division.. Also I'm not sure where you heard the bullshyt Rumor that Bud wants $15m for tzsyu but notice how Tszyu aint apart of the actual 3 fight deal you claimed you "heard" he was offered.. And also at what point would Crawford and Tszyu ever have been in any realistic talks with each other when they were both contractually locked to other fights.. Spence aint announce he needed eye surgery and the rematch was off until after Tsyzu and Thurman was announced.. Some may call that a coincidence.. nikkas with common sense can see dirty politics at play.. That anger you see from Fundura manager is just fear.. Same fear you seen from PBC when they tried everything to keep Spence away from Bud

Spence had the eye surgery with photo posted in Jan/Feb. Early in the Year Tim's team were talking to multiple people, Lubin being one, and they mentioned convos with Bud. Thurman was a last minute thing which makes sense is Lubin says he was shocked when he saw it announced because he was waiting on a contract for Tim.

Mell is WBC Champ in Recess and if they made a deal then WBC wouldn't have made that status as he would have a fight lined up, his IBF/WBA were recently snatched too during that window of time, once again due to no planned fights.

What does PBC gain freezing someone out when they get paid? lol your nikka is horrible at business and at this rate if it wasn't for the Saudis rumored to save the day would be looking at a purse bid to fight Josh Kelly if Fundora dropped the belt

 

[desjardins]

damn this dude Bud really got 9 lives, no matter what PBC tries to do to ice him out he always have a plan b and c to still get a bag.
Would be crazy if he can pull 8 figures from the Saudis for his next fight

It doesn't make sense for you because you're assuming he doesn't want to sign with the PBC and you're ignoring the fact that He actually WAS signed to the PBC so may I direct you to do 2 things?
Just look what PBC did with Bud after he beat Spence.. Look at what PBC did with any potential opponent he would want to fight..

yea not sure what's so hard to understand, it takes two sides to come to agreement. This been going on over 6 yrs now, remember when PBC was making up all kinds of excuses for why it didn't make sense for them to make the spence fight . This the same platform that tried to get him to accept $0 guarantees but yet Bud is the "difficult to do business with" if he don't accept obvious bullshyt offers
clearly PBC just don't want to sign him for whatever reason or the offer is so low it's borderline insulting and Bud would rather just go scrap together other fights on his own

 

[threattonature]

damn this dude Bud really got 9 lives, no matter what PBC tries to do to ice him out he always have a plan b and c to still get a bag.
Would be crazy if he can pull 8 figures from the Saudis for his next fight



yea not sure what's so hard to understand, it takes two sides to come to agreement. This been going on over 6 yrs now, remember when PBC was making up all kinds of excuses for why it didn't make sense for them to make the spence fight . This the same platform that tried to get him to accept $0 guarantees but yet Bud is the "difficult to do business with" if he don't accept obvious bullshyt offers
clearly PBC just don't want to sign him for whatever reason or the offer is so low it's borderline insulting and Bud would rather just go scrap together other fights on his own

Question then, why is it if Bud comes to the table and doesn't like what is being offered it's Bud doing good business. But when PBC talks to Bud and don't like what he's requesting it means PBC is freezing him out?

Why can't it simply be that PBC doesn't think it's a good business decision (in their eyes) to pay Bud what he's requesting instead of being some grand conspiracy to keep Bud from eating?