Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[<<TheStandard>>]

The same people that were okay with Bud being frozen out the past 4-5 years before he whipped Spence ass are okay with him getting frozen out now and there is nothing you can do or say to change their mind.. 1st it was cause he signed with TR now it's cause he bad for business (even though his last ppv did over 700k) they will always have an excuse to justify it..these people are wierdos and dikksuckers that just hate Crawford

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

dude is a poor business man and is negotiating his ego more so than good business. Nobody who does business with Al has ever complaining about money and some could argue Al set the precedent of getting fighters pay days they don't deserve which lowers their incentive to take challenges.

I "heard" PBC offered Bud 3 fight deal of Boots Lubin and Mell after the Spence thing was confirmed over earlier this year and he was like nah. Is this true? who knows.

And then there was the thing about Tim's Manager saying casually Bud wants 15 Ms (it was alleged they began talking to each other earlier this year too and the Thurman fight likely came from Bud not going).

And then we see how pissed Fundora's manager gets when Bud gets mentioned lol

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

dude is a poor business man and is negotiating his ego more so than good business. Nobody who does business with Al has ever complaining about money and some could argue Al set the precedent of getting fighters pay days they don't deserve which lowers their incentive to take challenges.

I "heard" PBC offered Bud 3 fight deal of Boots Lubin and Mell after the Spence thing was confirmed over earlier this year and he was like nah. Is this true? who knows.

And then there was the thing about Tim's Manager saying casually Bud wants 15 Ms (it was alleged they began talking to each other earlier this year too and the Thurman fight likely came from Bud not going).

And then we see how pissed Fundora's manager gets when Bud gets mentioned lol

His career has never made sense to me.

So he can't get the fights he wanted at Top Rank, he resigns with Top Rank despite that claims that the other promotional company is freezing him out, he sues Bob for not giving him the fights that he wants.......and yet he won't sign to the company that literally has all the fights he wants.

When I had him on my podcast and asked him why he resigned with Top Rank, he pressed me.

It just doesn't make sense at all to me. Maybe it's personal or there's a lot I don't know about the boxing business.....I dunno but it seems like he's playing himself. If Crawford had PBC, he might be the biggest star in the world because he's better than both Tank and Spence and yet they're far bigger than him.

 

[Apollo Creed]

His career has never made sense to me.

So he can't get the fights he wanted at Top Rank, he resigns with Top Rank despite that claims that the other promotional company is freezing him out, he sues Bob for not giving him the fights that he wants.......and yet he won't sign to the company that literally has all the fights he wants.

When I had him on my podcast and asked him why he resigned with Top Rank, he pressed me.

It just doesn't make sense at all to me.

I could see if PBC was known for not paying people but literally everyone says PBC over pays to the point nikkas dont even fight, and the way Bud is it seems a match made in heaven.

Everyone tries to ignore when Bud RE-SIGNED to TR that last time and he didnt get the Manny fight lol he coulda went to PBC right then and there and got Manny or been in position for the winner right away if Errol still got the fight first.

We are going to see the same witb Shakur if he re signs to TR after all his crying about being ducked or wanting the tank fight

 

[JamesJabdi]

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

Crawford is at the backend of his career and looking for big paydays that most ain't willing to pay. Its hard to go back down to get 6-9 mill for a fight when you just got 25 mill for spence thats why he want that Canelo fight. Reality is that he don't want 3-5 more fights....he want 1-2 big paydays and bounce.

He might want to fight Fundora, Tszyu, Vergil, Madrimov and what not.....but the money he asking ain't there for them fights and his secret investors are no where to be found. The Saudis might be the ones who have to come in and book his next fight.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Crawford is at the backend of his career and looking for big paydays that most ain't willing to pay. Its hard to go back down to get 6-9 mill for a fight when you just got 25 mill for spence thats why he want that Canelo fight. Reality is that he don't want 3-5 more fights....he want 1-2 big paydays and bounce.

He might want to fight Fundora, Tszyu, Vergil, Madrimov and what not.....but the money he asking ain't there for them fights and his secret investors are no where to be found. The Saudis might be the ones who have to come in and book his next fight.

He isnt going to get any big paydays unless the Saudis want to indirectly fund a 154 Tourney for Undisputed with Bud being who they bet it. This is fine but it would be more of the Saudi’s liking Bud and want to give him a good fairytale ending to his career than anything that makes business sense lol

 

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[JamesJabdi]

He isnt going to get any big paydays unless the Saudis want to indirectly fund a 154 Tourney for Undisputed with Bud being who they bet it. This is fine but it would be more of the Saudi’s liking Bud and want to give him a good fairytale ending to his career than anything that makes business sense lol

DAZN got a link to them Saudis and they have Madrimov as a champ so that could be his way in for a big payday. But the Saudis mainly seem invested in the Heavyweight division currently though. He might need to fly out to Usyk vs Fury and make business moves.

 

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[Apollo Creed]

DAZN got a link to them Saudis and they have Madrimov as a champ so that could be his way in for a big payday. But the Saudis mainly seem invested in the Heavyweight division currently though. He might need to fly out to Usyk vs Fury and make business moves.

Yeah this is why i said Saudis bankroll a tourney and payoff everyone with a belt to fight over the next 24 months for inflated purses, but it still woulsnt be those insane purses they do for heavyweight

 

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[Black_Jesus]

Why doesn't Crawford just sign with PBC?

Honestly it seems like all the fights he wants are over there, he had the biggest fight oif his career with PBC. Just go over there and do business with Al Haymon. Honestly the only differene between Tank and him is that Tank has Al Haymon.

Someone make it make sense for me because I'm not sure I understand why this isn't a no brainer decision for him?

It doesn't make sense for you because you're assuming he doesn't want to sign with the PBC and you're ignoring the fact that He actually WAS signed to the PBC so may I direct you to do 2 things?
Just look what PBC did with Bud after he beat Spence.. Look at what PBC did with any potential opponent he would want to fight..

 

[Black_Jesus]

Yeah, he’s one of those guys that has a limited but entertaining style, and when he starts fighting the top guys in the division, he’s going to be in a lot of trouble on some Edison Miranda shyt. It’s easy to get enamored with those kinds of fighters, but they normally run into someone sharper, a harder puncher, a higher ring IQ, etc. I think Teo would probably stop Matias. I’ve noticed Teo is a way better fighter sans Nakatani when guys come right at him. When he has to go try to find you, cut off the ring, get into range from the outside, etc. he looks lost. A guy right in front of him, though? He’s going to hit with some shyt at some point. I also think Teo is a fighter that fights to the level of the competition. He’d be up (No Diddy) for Matias. I don’t think Matias could win more than a couple rounds against Haney. He would probably beat Garcia. I don’t rate him. Tank stops Matias off a counter.

Yea just fought a guy who had nothing but some power but could only fight at 1 range and had ZERO inside game.. what happened when he fights so none that checks off all the boxes or at least those of the boxes.. Imo he hasn't been tested at all vs anyone better than the last guy he fought