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[seemorecizzy]

I know Floyd dikk riders aren't complaining about cherry picking


Fought Pacquiao after he had already been knocked out by marquez. Fought cotto after he had already been knocked out by Pacquiao. Fought Shane at 38 on a 16 month layoff. Fought Marquez coming up two weight divisions then didn't even bother to make the catchweight. Fought trash ass Robert Guerrero when nobody wanted it or even asked for it. Fought a mid Marcos maidana only because he beat an even more mid Adrien broner. Then damn near lost to him so he had to fight him again.....then to top it all off, he got his 50-0 record by beating an MMA fighter with zero amateur fights



And let's not even talk about him using an illegal IV drip before the Manny fight....over 15x the legal limit. Then got a shady ass exemption 2 weeks after the fight. The main reason IV drips are banned before competition is because they mask the use of certain substances


We not about to sit here and rewrite history. Floyd's welterweight career was full of fukkery and safe matchmaking


Yea I had time

I have time too

Both Cotto and Pacquaio had chances to fight Floyd before both these fights and said no. Cotto because "he wasnt ready" and pacquaio because for some weird reason, didnt wanna do random urine and blood testing that he ended up doing anyway lol.

Floyd called out Shane Mosley beforehand twice and Mosley said he had tooth issues the last time The fight happened after Mosley' best win. Floyd had fought once in about 2 and a half years by da time he fought Mosley but i guess his long lay off doesnt matter lol. And 38 isn't old apparently cause that's the age Mayweather was when he whopped pacquaio's ass

Floyd gets zero credit for those Maidana fights but he was clearly out of his prime in both those fights and still beat the bigger and younger guy in his late 30s.



Bottom line, B sides dont get to dictate anything lol. I'm sure a few idiots will say Haney ducked Shakir as he gets more older and more successful, but the offer was there and he didnt take it.

It's weird how fighters are allowed to reject floyd mayweather fights if they feel like it butif they want to fight him he must drop everything and bow to them lol shyt doesnt work that way.


I wont even talk about the last fight of Mayweather's prime.. beating a 23 year old world champion with 40 fights at 36 years old. They said canelo was too young A 36 year old is never supposed to beat a 23 year old boxer. Oscar beat chavez when he was 33 and Oscar was 23 people didn't even wanna give him no credit

Boxing is a young man's sport.

The rules and narratives always switch up when it comes to Mayweather. There was no cherry picking going on.

 

[patscorpio]

feverishly defending floyd, @seemorecizzy is on it

floyd supporting and kowtowing to israel - @seemorecizzy doesnt say a word until prodded by an appropriate 3rd party who insists on consistency

 

[seemorecizzy]

feverishly defending floyd, @seemorecizzy is on it

floyd supporting and kowtowing to israel - @seemorecizzy doesnt say a word until prodded by an appropriate 3rd party who insists on consistency

The two things ain't related

 

[patscorpio]

Tim Tszyu Accepting That He May Never Fight Jermell Charlo: "He's A Bit Of A Coward"​

BY HANS THEMISTODE
Published Tue Jan 30, 2024, 06:29 AM EST
From the moment he threw on his first pair of gloves, Tim Tszyu knew he wanted to become a world champion. As he made his way up the junior middleweight ranks, he noticed that just about anyone could grab a belt but it takes someone special to beat the man who beat the man.
Whether you liked his aloof personality or not, Jermell Charlo was on top of the 154-pound mountain. Tszyu wouldn’t deny it and reluctantly handed him his flowers. Ultimately, the Aussie wanted a crack at him, despite few believing he had much of a chance.
Given that Charlo eventually aggregated every world title available, Tszyu had no way around him. Going through the top dog, however, was something that Tszyu didn't mind. Charlo, nevertheless, had other plans. Instead of defending his throne last year against Tszyu, he made an arbitrary move up in weight to take on Canelo Alvarez.
A nice payday was all Charlo left the ring with that night as Alvarez won practically every round. Tszyu, soon after, was elevated from interim WBO champ to full belt holder. Still, he remained hopeful that he and Charlo could get it on. Now, after noticing that Charlo has gone radio silent, he doesn’t view a showdown against him as pragmatic or even feasible.
“I've come to the conclusion that I’m never going to fight him because he’s a bit of a coward,” Tszyu told a group of reporters.
Charlo, 33, hasn’t said much as of late but his actions are speaking much louder than his words ever could. He vacated his IBF strap while the WBC has made him Champion in Recess.
There was never a time when Tszyu liked Charlo as a person but he revered him as a fighter. The Texas native fought like a man with something to prove before he became an undisputed champion. Now, Tszyu is of the belief that Charlo is satisfied with what he’s accomplished.
“Finally, all of the sanctioning bodies are realizing that he’s a fraud. He went so hard to win the belts but you got to harder to keep them.”

 

[theflyest]

To be fair, he fought Mosely directly after he beat Antonio Margarito and Mosley called him out. Mosely was supposed to fight Berto but he backed out due to the earthquake in Haiti. That wasn't a bad fight to make happen IMO because I remember lots of people wanting to see it........That was the first boxing match I ever attended in Vegas.

You’re being too logical though.

Floyd had a clear trend how he selected his opponents. All of them typically came off a big win, whether it was Shane beating Margarito who was on fire, Guerrero beating Berto, or Maidana beating an undefeated Broner.

Weird thing is instead of responding about Canelo’s terrible matchmaking, he chose to make a paragraph going at Floyd. That’s what weirdos do though. That’s his response to everyone that questions Canelo.

As I told this clown, if you enjoy watching Canelo fight guys like John Ryder, Rocky Fielding, The Smith Brothers, etc that’s on you, but you can’t expect everyone to enjoy that shyt.

 

[Deafheaven]

To be fair to Shakur this was in response to Navarette getting to fight for a belt in LW immediately. He was like mines well retire, obviously in gest. Then came rhe retirement post

 

[patscorpio]

To be fair to Shakur this was in response to Navarette getting to fight for a belt in LW immediately. He was like mines well retire, obviously in gest. Then came rhe retirement post

But navarrete is a current WBO champ...it's in their rules he can go up if he wants.

 

[Standing on business]

J prince after reading that tweet

 

[Knicksman20]

Hell yeah ..Devon had the skillset to beat Bradley

Not gonna lie, I hated on him for what he did to Juan Urango

He never demonstrated power like that before either which made it more shocking lol

 

[patscorpio]

Not gonna lie, I hated on him for what he did to Juan Urango

He never demonstrated power like that before either which made it more shocking lol

i didnt hate urango but if you told me that devon would get rid of him in the distance i would have been like "nah" ..shyt urango got up from a randall bailey kill shot to win

but devon should have been more...he has wins over real hitters like urango, bailey, lucas (controversially), shyt he gave maidana the worst ass kicking of his life

to lose to tim bradley and shawn porter aka tim bradley 2.0

 

[theflyest]

Hell yeah ..Devon had the skillset to beat Bradley

There is nothing that Devon did that was conducive to beating Bradley.

Bradley had already beat a better fighter in Peterson, who also would have done Devon dirty.

I’m not rewriting history. Alexander was very hyped at the time, but I wasn’t really impressed with him.

He was at his best beating rugged type of fighters like Urango and Maidana. His career went exactly how it was suppose to go.

 

[patscorpio]

There is nothing that Devon did that was conducive to beating Bradley.

Bradley had already beat a better fighter in Peterson, who also would have done Devon dirty.

I’m not rewriting history. Alexander was very hyped at the time, but I wasn’t really impressed with him.

He was at his best beating rugged type of fighters like Urango and Maidana. His career went exactly how it was suppose to go.

he was hyped because he had the floyd cosign but stopping urango where berto, hatton, or bailey couldnt spoke volumes..that shyt built the hype for the fight with bradley...bradley wasnt stopping nobody and kendall h0lt almost knocked his block off lol..although yes that peterson win was a good one i agree..he blanked dude and knocked him down

 

[theflyest]

he was hyped because he had the floyd cosign but stopping urango where berto, hatton, or bailey couldnt spoke volumes..that shyt built the hype for the fight with bradley...bradley wasnt stopping nobody and kendall h0lt almost knocked his block off lol..although yes that peterson win was a good one i agree..he blanked dude and knocked him down

Bradley isn’t a KO guy and if my memory serves me correct he still dominated H0lt.

I would have liked to see Peterson vs Alexander but I suppose it just never quite made sense. However, sometimes I believe these fights should happen because they’re in the same era.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

To be fair to Shakur this was in response to Navarette getting to fight for a belt in LW immediately. He was like mines well retire, obviously in gest. Then came rhe retirement post

But isn't this the way the WBO do it though?

If you're a champion at a lower weight and you move up a weight you additionally get a title shot.