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Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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lol smh
CTE.
Anyone in their right mind thought that Ryan Garcia was going to willingly step into a ring with someone like Tank Davis.... Man I don't even know what to tell you. His history is all pump fakes, cap, pullouts and bullshyt. MF a compulsive liar.
Has GBP EVER helped put together a great event? Have they EVER put a fighter in a tough fight? They're a fxcking joke and always have been. Oscar does nothing but lie nd cook up bullshyt. And He has NOTHING to show for it. You have to be braindead to think this fight not happening has anything to do with PBC.
GBP has been around for a long time bro...with 80 percent of PBC's roster coming from GBP lol
Erratic415
Superstar
I root for these “replacement” bouts to do poorly at the box office, giving them more motivation to actually work to make the big fights materialize.
I noticed this back during the Floyd/Manny debacle. They may have been serious back in 09/10 with their negotiations, but after that, I could see they were just dangling the carrot for the fans. People were still paying good money to see Manny face guys like Clottey or old Mosley, Floyd to face that weirdo Ortiz. Later on, their PPV sales werent doing as well, and then they fought.
I think this was the case when Bowe and Lewis never fought. When Bowe threw the WBC belt in the trash can, he had signed a huge deal with HBO and Time Warner. He got paid big money to face overmatched Jesse Ferguson and old Michael Dokes, and a supposedly shot Holyfield. I think they were planning on eventually facing Lewis after making crazy money beating all those soft touches, but it didn’t work out.
We want to see the big fights, but as long as there’s big money to be made for easier (or perceived easier) fights, some fighters and promoters will exploit that. So I always hope they underperform financially.
Erratic415
Superstar
Morrison made some fun fights. The Carl Williams fight was not too long after the Joe Hipp fight. Morrison won despite suffering a broken jaw and broken hand.
I always thought that was one of the gutsier performances I’ve seen. He had no chin but a lot of heart.
desjardins
Superstar
So Espinoza and Oscar are both saying all contractual points are agreed to and Oscar wants to finalize it now instead of later…..
For a fight of this magnitude across two promotions why not just send the contract then. Is showtime willing to let the fight fall thru instead of just compromising on something that seems relatively minor. Also with Ryan history wouldn’t you want to lock in the fight now, maybe with some kind of penalty clause for pulling out.
For a fight of this magnitude across two promotions why not just send the contract then. Is showtime willing to let the fight fall thru instead of just compromising on something that seems relatively minor. Also with Ryan history wouldn’t you want to lock in the fight now, maybe with some kind of penalty clause for pulling out.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
If people are still falling for PBCs bullshyt at this point I dont know what to tell you.. there is no sense of urgency for them to ever give you the fights you want.. They're no better than any other promotional company. You gotta be fool to continue to defend them
Floyd and Manny basically fought when they had no other options, and it towards the end of their careers. From a promoter's perspective, that's when the timing of the fight made sense. It sucked for the fans, but they made more money moving this way, even with Manny's setback of two losses.
It's the same shyt why AJ & Wilder never fought. From Hearn's perspective, why put him in with Wilder, a fight that can go either way when I can put him in with ________ and make a lot of money. However, he didn't expect him to lose to guys like Ruiz and Usyk.
Boxing is trending into a direction where guys won't have their biggest fights until the end of their career. Crazy right?
I'm just ranting, but have you noticed that most undisputed fights aren't really big mainstream fights? Sure they're big in the boxing world, but not in the mainstream. I'm referring to fights like Crawford/Indongo, Charlo/Castano, and Haney/Kambosos. If the b sides were more popular, these fights don't even happen. Spence/Crawford? It's not happening. It's a joke and why I converted to a casual fan years ago.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
Im not trying to hear all that. Whens the last time GBP did anything that anyone gives a fxck about?
Oscar is a fxcking clown.
threattonature
Veteran
I disagree with this part. When that fight was hot that would've made more money in that fight + a liley rematch than they'd make over the next five years fighting the lesser names that they did. Same with Floyd and Manny.
Nope
I think you're missing the point. Hearn believed that AJ was going to win all those fights before entertaining a Wilder fight. There's a clear reason why promoters move the way they do.
You're also way off on Mayweather and Manny.
Mayweather and Manny were able to make a significant amount of money during that 6 year period, plus they made a large amount of money on their own individual fight. Their "lesser" name opponents you are referring to consisted of guys such as Mosley, Cotto, Canelo, Hatton, etc. Those are all money fights. It definitely made sense how it played out, despite it being to the detriment of the fans.