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Oh okay, it's like that.

Lopez went for the knockout against Kambosos, it didn't go well at all. That was the reference. Pretty straightforward. If Haney follows the same approach, as you said, you think this is a good idea?

I don't disagree at all regarding KO, one of the best trainers i had instilled that in me early on.

But Haney isn't traditionally a knockout fighter, exceptionally skilled, can adapt, extremely adept at most, if not all things. Knockout fighter? Perhaps, but personally i think he would be better suited to adopting the same approach he has always had, rather than training for a knockout.

:dwillhuh:at the bolded cuz I don't even know what the fukk you talking about breh.

If you think spamming right hands (which is what Teo did) indicates he trained for the knockout then there's nothing left to discuss, because you can box for a knockout without slinging haymakers all night.

I don't know why when nikkas hear the word knockout, cats think everybody drops their skills and just wing shots.
 

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because you can box for a knockout without slinging haymakers all night.

I don't know why when nikkas hear the word knockout, cats think everybody drops their skills and just wing shots.
Well you gotta be clearer then, 'don't randomly say shyt without putting things into proper context so I expect the same from others':shaq:

Kinda going in circles here if we honest.

Still, like i said before, Haney isn't really knocking motherfukkers out, that's not his forte, never has been.

You saying Haney should be looking at a late round knockout as far as prep goes? Or maybe Haney should just do train specifically for a well conditioned, 12 round opponent? Shiiit. Because like you said, 'you gotta put shyt into proper context' haha.
 

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Well you gotta be clearer then, 'don't randomly say shyt without putting things into proper context so I expect the same from others':shaq:

Kinda going in circles here if we honest.

Still, like i said before, Haney isn't really knocking motherfukkers out, that's not his forte, never has been.

You saying Haney should be looking at a late round knockout as far as prep goes? Or maybe Haney should just do train specifically for a well conditioned, 12 round opponent? Shiiit. Because like you said, 'you gotta put shyt into proper context' haha.

nikka you quoted me first only to lowkey agree with me anyway. :mjlol:

I forget that this the coli where nikkas insist on finding some type of angle to argue about.
 

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Leighwood is the perfect example of someone that you can tell trains and boxes with a stoppage in mind.

Dude makes every punch count. He throws whipping shots with his body behind them. He digs to the body all night. He's aware of when his opponent tries to sneak a rest and picks it up accordingly. He punches in combination and mixes the shots up from body to head. Dude pretty much doesn't give you a rest unless you putting hands on him.

Couldn't avoid the straight left for shyt, but he wasn't going to have his offense denied. :pachaha:

Haney has the skill, talent, and physicality to do all the above all while having better defense and handspeed. He can win rds clearly an push for a late stoppage at the same time. Doesn't have to be one way or the other.

Pac had Horn out on his feet at one point and he still got robbed so anything can happen if that shyt go to the cards. :manny:
 

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nikka you quoted me first only to lowkey agree with me anyway. :mjlol:

I forget that this the coli where nikkas insist on finding some type of angle to argue about.
Not even.

No postulate for the sake of a discussion, nor low-key anything.
But good of you to explain the sense behind your logic with a reference to Leigh Wood as to how Haney should line up. :mjlol:

I see what you saying regarding Leigh Wood, sure, but i wouldn't be comparing him at all to Haney, nor that fight Wood had with Conlan. What kind of shyt is that as a fight or fighter reference? Conlan kept catching him fighting southpaw, none of that is relevant regarding Haney and Kambosos?:what:

Additionally, are you suggesting that Haney game plan vs Kambosos should be to run the gauntlet like Leigh Wood does and invite the counter, irrespective? That's not Haney at all, when would Haney ever (or has ever) done that? I know one time he did against Linares. :jbhmm:. Your asking an elegant Rolls Royce to drive like a muscle car for the first time in their career?

FWIW i think Haney wins this via unanimous decision, convincingly if he prepares to his strengths, range, scoring, jab, two-three punch combos, get out or tie up (one of his most underrated attributes.)

Horn v Pac was in Queensland, anything goes up there. Akin to a J Prince in Texas fight or Kinnihan stable match of Taylor and Caterall.
 

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Jermell Charlo wasn't a KO puncher either but with James he became one, sometimes it just depends on that. And there are guys who are naturally big punchers whatever who they are training with.
Idk if Haney would become a KO puncher with the right trainer, I certainly think having Ben Davison giving advice to him is a chink in his armor though. Not saying Davison is as trash as many on twitter make him out to be but also not as good as many on twitter making him out to be :mjlol: He's good within the UK trainers but let's just say I think Haney is a bigger talent as a fighter than Davison is as a trainer.
 

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Jermell Charlo wasn't a KO puncher either but with James he became one, sometimes it just depends on that. And there are guys who are naturally big punchers whatever who they are training with.
Idk if Haney would become a KO puncher with the right trainer, I certainly think having Ben Davison giving advice to him is a chink in his armor though. Not saying Davison is as trash as many on twitter make him out to be but also not as good as many on twitter making him out to be :mjlol: He's good within the UK trainers but let's just say I think Haney is a bigger talent as a fighter than Davison is as a trainer.

Facts with Mell, but his meanness definitely helped that transition. Plus he stay in great shape so he keeps his power the whole bout so even when he be getting outboxed, he knows he still in the fight. Aint too many dudes conducting interviews while jumping rope. James had a good foundation to build with.

Agree with your take on Davison.
You're known as a skill guy, but both your fighters had to damn near WILL there way to victory and one of them still lost in most peoples eyes. :francis:
 

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Jermell Charlo wasn't a KO puncher either but with James he became one, sometimes it just depends on that. And there are guys who are naturally big punchers whatever who they are training with.
Idk if Haney would become a KO puncher with the right trainer, I certainly think having Ben Davison giving advice to him is a chink in his armor though. Not saying Davison is as trash as many on twitter make him out to be but also not as good as many on twitter making him out to be :mjlol: He's good within the UK trainers but let's just say I think Haney is a bigger talent as a fighter than Davison is as a trainer.

That’s true.

Perhaps even an age thing with Devin. Still only 23.
 

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Usyk-Joshua Rematch: Location Still in Talks, Several Offers on Table
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BY RON LEWIS
Published Tue Mar 29, 2022, 01:36 PM EDT


Eddie Hearn has insisted that no deal has been agreed to stage the Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua rematch in Saudi Arabia despite reports claiming a $120 million offer had been made by the country.

The fight has been tentatively scheduled for June 25 after Usyk left Ukraine to begin training for the fight. He had previously returned to his homeland and signed up to an army reserve force after Russia's invasion of Ukraine on February 24.

Usyk had claimed the WBA, WBO, IBO and IBF heavyweight titles from Joshua last September at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in North London and it had been expected that the rematch would take place either there or at Wembley Stadium.

But Usyk's promoter Alexander Krassyuk revealed on Sky Sports on Tuesday that Saudi Arabia had made a bid, with other sources claiming that the deal was done.

“This location is under discussion at the moment,” Krassyuk said. “Many things will depend on how fast we manage to ink the papers.

“The good thing is that Usyk is already in Europe to start his preparation.”

But while Hearn insisted that the country had made an offer, several others were on the table.

“Nothing’s been agreed,” Hearn said. “There’s been interest from home, Saudi, other countries in the Middle East and the USA.”

Boxing is hardly new to Saudi Arabia. The biggest event they have staged so far was Joshua's rematch with Andy Ruiz Jr in 2018 in Riyadh, while the World Boxing Super Series final between Callum Smith and George Groves was staged in Jeddah.

Indeed, Usyk had been due to be there in his WBSS cruiserweight final against Murat Gassiev, before Usyk suffered an injury.

That fight eventually took place in Moscow.

Saudi Arabia was also set to be the venue of the undisputed world heavyweight title fight between Joshua and Tyson Fury last year before Fury was ordered by a US judge to have a third fight with Deontay Wilder.

But it remains a controversial location despite huge growth in golf and Formula One, which have led to accusations of sportswashing for a country with an appalling human rights record.
 

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Showtime really gotta add a youtube option to see the prospects, it's 2022


they have the best production and studio team but their (and Top Rank’s) highlights are trash too. DAZN and FOX are doing full, detailed highlights while the TR and Showtime YT channels stay putting out some ridiculously short ones. Idk why they keep doing it, seen a lot of ppl shytting on them in the comments for it and just generally it comes off cheap and petty as fukk
 
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