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[LauderdaleBoss]

..expound breh? curious on why you say this

Brewster has the best attributes of Chisora and Joshua. He naturally aggressive like Chisora, but is more athletic and talented. Like Joshua he has a versatile powerful two fisted attack. Dude would literally be all over Usyk from the beginning and won't let up. Dude didn't gas like Chisora and was more aggressive than Joshua. Plus his hand speed and combination punching was fast enough to lead or end exchanges. Usyk would have to box and move all night because the moment he didn't, Brewster would be fighting him hard. Juggeranut and Colossus (Joyce/AJ) too big and clumsy for Usyk ring generalship. Brewster and Usyk are closer in size. He'll definitely get to him better than they did.

That's a tall order for Uysk. He won't be able to relax or let Brewster off the hook like he did with Joshua a couple times if he manages to buzz or hurt Brewster. He even doubled down on it in an interview saying that he doesn't go for a ko cuz this is all he needs blah blah blah hoe shyt. You can't have that mentality against Brewster. That shyt will get you ran the fukk over in an exchange on the ropes.

You can run a twitter poll so all the euro nikkas can disagree. but I know what my eyes see.

I know its a random name, but styles make fights

Sam Peter is a better match up for Usyk than Brewster.

 

[patscorpio]

but this the thing, if AJ DOESN'T get aggressive, how the hell will he clip Usyk. Dude is not Jermell Charlo or Danny Garcia. Joshua isn't some elite counter puncher. His offensive opportunities lower once he tries to get into that mode. Remember how boring the Parker fight was. Dude can box effectively against a certain style (Ruiz, Povetkin) aka plodders, but when he does that to dudes that are boxers he looks bad. His heavier punching is usually the only difference between him and that type of opponent.

Joshua biggest problem is mental. That nikka be trying to please everyone and prove meaningless points. Dude wanted to show everyone that he could outbox Usyk when he should have never approached the fight like that to begin with. He didn't like how the media and everyone was making Usyk out to be some elite boxer compared to him. He needed to be aggressive with Uysk and fight him like a big nikka supposed to. Its like he didn't see the Chisora fight. AJ pushed Uysk back damn near every time he threw the one two. He needed to lead more. All that waiting and pawing the jab trying to outbox Usyk fails, because Usyk just ends up being first anyway an once that happens he picks up momentum and is harder to control. Joshua was definitely buzzing dude when he landed, its just that he doesn't follow up on it because he still trying to box.

this is what made me go ...usyk's face was busted up by joshua...its not like joshua is a slacker technically but it wasnt the right type of plan to use for usyk..usyk is a rhythm fighter..you gotta throw him off his rhythm..joshua did nothing to do that..he played usyk's game until he started tiring and usyk's 2nd gear kicked in

 

[malbaker86]

but this the thing, if AJ DOESN'T get aggressive, how the hell will he clip Usyk. Dude is not Jermell Charlo or Danny Garcia. Joshua isn't some elite counter puncher. His offensive opportunities lower once he tries to get into that mode. Remember how boring the Parker fight was. Dude can box effectively against a certain style (Ruiz, Povetkin) aka plodders, but when he does that to dudes that are boxers he looks bad. His heavier punching is usually the only difference between him and that type of opponent.

Joshua biggest problem is mental. That nikka be trying to please everyone and prove meaningless points. Dude wanted to show everyone that he could outbox Usyk when he should have never approached the fight like that to begin with. He didn't like how the media and everyone was making Usyk out to be some elite boxer compared to him. He needed to be aggressive with Uysk and fight him like a big nikka supposed to. Its like he didn't see the Chisora fight. AJ pushed Uysk back damn near every time he threw the one two. He needed to lead more. All that waiting and pawing the jab trying to outbox Usyk fails, because Usyk just ends up being first anyway an once that happens he picks up momentum and is harder to control. Joshua was definitely buzzing dude when he landed, its just that he doesn't follow up on it because he still trying to box.

a guy like Lamon Brewster would be all wrong for Usyk imo.

i peeped that too about what was working for AJ vs Usyk but he didn’t want to commit to it. Lemme ask you and @patscorpio this because yall know better than me; i may not be wording this right, but am I “wrong” in saying that I don’t trust Usyk to hold up if AJ CAN get on the inside and it make it somewhat of a “phone booth” fight? Like can he win an “ugly” fight that’s not fought on his terms? I mean you can say he did it vs Briedis but that’s a fight that literally is the definition of it could have went EITHER way or a draw

 

[patscorpio]

i peeped that too about what was working for AJ vs Usyk but he didn’t want to commit to it. Lemme ask you and @patscorpio this because yall know better than me; i may not be wording this right, but am I “wrong” in saying that I don’t trust Usyk to hold up if AJ CAN get on the inside and it make it somewhat of a “phone booth” fight? Like can he win an “ugly” fight that’s not fought on his terms? I mean you can say he did it vs Briedis but that’s a fight that literally is the definition of it could have went EITHER way or a draw

usyk is a tough guy but i truly feel that if joshua landed more frequently, his face wouldn't hold up and the ref would have to call it off..usyk for all his strengths inside fighting is not one of them

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

i peeped that too about what was working for AJ vs Usyk but he didn’t want to commit to it. Lemme ask you and @patscorpio this because yall know better than me; i may not be wording this right, but am I “wrong” in saying that I don’t trust Usyk to hold up if AJ CAN get on the inside and it make it somewhat of a “phone booth” fight? Like can he win an “ugly” fight that’s not fought on his terms? I mean you can say he did it vs Briedis but that’s a fight that literally is the definition of it could have went EITHER way or a draw

Is Joshua an inside fighter though?

 

[patscorpio]

see unlike ruiz fight where i chalked it up to last min opponent switch and being a little lackadaisical, joshua is now truly in the hot seat whenever the rematch with usyk comes off

 

[patscorpio]

i was hoping joshua would be more serious about a trainer switch too...shyt has all the ingredients to being another disaster

 

[malbaker86]

Is Joshua an inside fighter though?

good question

 

[Knicksman20]

but this the thing, if AJ DOESN'T get aggressive, how the hell will he clip Usyk. Dude is not Jermell Charlo or Danny Garcia. Joshua isn't some elite counter puncher. His offensive opportunities lower once he tries to get into that mode. Remember how boring the Parker fight was. Dude can box effectively against a certain style (Ruiz, Povetkin) aka plodders, but when he does that to dudes that are boxers he looks bad. His heavier punching is usually the only difference between him and that type of opponent.

Joshua biggest problem is mental. That nikka be trying to please everyone and prove meaningless points. Dude wanted to show everyone that he could outbox Usyk when he should have never approached the fight like that to begin with. He didn't like how the media and everyone was making Usyk out to be some elite boxer compared to him. He needed to be aggressive with Uysk and fight him like a big nikka supposed to. Its like he didn't see the Chisora fight. AJ pushed Uysk back damn near every time he threw the one two. He needed to lead more. All that waiting and pawing the jab trying to outbox Usyk fails, because Usyk just ends up being first anyway an once that happens he picks up momentum and is harder to control. Joshua was definitely buzzing dude when he landed, its just that he doesn't follow up on it because he still trying to box.

a guy like Lamon Brewster would be all wrong for Usyk imo.

All facts!! Especially on Lamon Brewster putting dude’s lights out; & probably with a mean left hook

 

[Apollo Creed]

We’ll see… I remember it like whenever AJ really tried to start a fight he got the short end of the stick

nah he had some success early, but it was too late then he started gassing and Usyk took advantage of that

 

[Knicksman20]

i peeped that too about what was working for AJ vs Usyk but he didn’t want to commit to it. Lemme ask you and @patscorpio this because yall know better than me; i may not be wording this right, but am I “wrong” in saying that I don’t trust Usyk to hold up if AJ CAN get on the inside and it make it somewhat of a “phone booth” fight? Like can he win an “ugly” fight that’s not fought on his terms? I mean you can say he did it vs Briedis but that’s a fight that literally is the definition of it could have went EITHER way or a draw

If AJ imposes his size & will on Usyk, then AJ will KO him. AJ was most effective leading instead of sitting back like @LauderdaleBoss said. When AJ walked him down, he had Usyk more worried about defending then trying to counter

 

[Apollo Creed]

If AJ imposes his size & will on Usyk, then AJ will KO him. AJ was most effective leading instead of sitting back like @LauderdaleBoss said. When AJ walked him down, he had Usyk more worried about defending then trying to counter

Exactly, like are folks ignoring the damage AJ Did to Usyks face in the little success he had?

this is why im like Aj Shoulda linked up with Derrick James or someone.

imagine AJ on that Charlo Pack

 

[Knicksman20]

Exactly, like are folks ignoring the damage AJ Did to Usyks face in the little success he had?

this is why im like Aj Shoulda linked up with Derrick James or someone.

imagine AJ on that Charlo Pack

Derrick James at the least would be having AJ cut off the ring better & try walking Usyk into a right hand or left hook. He damn sure would be trying to make AJ follow up after landing a shot to hurt him or get him outta there

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

i peeped that too about what was working for AJ vs Usyk but he didn’t want to commit to it. Lemme ask you and @patscorpio this because yall know better than me; i may not be wording this right, but am I “wrong” in saying that I don’t trust Usyk to hold up if AJ CAN get on the inside and it make it somewhat of a “phone booth” fight? Like can he win an “ugly” fight that’s not fought on his terms? I mean you can say he did it vs Briedis but that’s a fight that literally is the definition of it could have went EITHER way or a draw

AJ is murder for most cats in a phone booth fight. That's really his game. Only dudes with quicker hands (Ruiz) or better left hooks (Whyte) will clip him. Usyk is not the type of guy that's going to punch with you. He's gonna be trying to defend once AJ opens up. If AJ opens up often, especially in mid range, Usyk will have a tougher fight on his hands.

Look at it this way. AJ gave us a borderline FOTY while using the wrong game plan.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Derrick James at the least would be having AJ cut off the ring better & try walking Usyk into a right hand or left hook. He damn sure would be trying to make AJ follow up after landing a shot to hurt him or get him outta there

Don’t know about that, he turned Jermell into a dangerous counter-puncher but seems out of his game every time he has to lead the action against someone good.