Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

Jesus..God protect all the athletes who chose to go and defend their country, and especially the citizens of Ukraine

 

[TheFireCar]

not impressed wiht Okolie....this dude is a proper definition of a weight bully..his tactics work against undersized cruisers but he wouldn't have any effect against HW's his size that equal or even surpass his reach like Fury,Joshua, Wilder

 

[KingOFKings]

Are 3 boxing judges enough nowadays? It certainly doesn't feel like it with all the corrupt decisions we've seen lately. Wish they could move to 5, but I know financially that isn't realistic.

They just need to pan them on camera and then make panels/post fight interviews with judges a thing (if needed). That should be enough. If you can judge a fight you should be able to explain why you scored it the way you did right?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I'm just saying , some of these guys don't even have an official fight or fight date set

or are in perpetual limbo fighting mandatores and/or lackluster competition


meanwhile he's already drafted up 3 fights for Canelo , 2 of which are champions for belts he probably won't get back

i mean I guess kissing up to Canelo is a way to get some $$$ in your pockets , but Eddie spending more time securing fights for a man not signed to his stable , vs all the guys that are ..

how can that sit well with all the guys currently signed to Matchroom boxing?

It's kinda funny to read stuff like this. Eddie Hearn is a boxing PROMOTER and owns a promotion company. His goal is to PROMOTE his fighters so people go their fights. If you've spent 5 years trying to get Andrade or Tevin Farmer to sell tickets+subs you eventually learn they don't.

Hearn would be a fukking idiot to not put all his focus on his most marketable highest selling fighter.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Wasn't Davidson Furys coach for his two best wins?

 

[patscorpio]

Wasn't Davidson Furys coach for his two best wins?

nope...he was involved in fury's comeback fights after wlad until the wallin fight

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

I heavily fukk with Danny but Regis Vs Garcia could go either way.

When Regis had his time to shine he bytched up N as we saw Taylor ain’t no Killer N since then dude refuses to fight anybody… he chasing Broner N Mikey two retired nikkas

Prograis 33 N his best Win is what Idongo?? I can’t see Prograis running the Gauntlet that Swift did at 140 undefeated… Head to Head Swift struggles with guys who are bigger Got the reach advantage N that can Sweet Science him… Prograis doesn’t have any of that imo

 

[aceboon]

Josh Taylor's former trainer

 

[KingOFKings]

It's kinda funny to read stuff like this. Eddie Hearn is a boxing PROMOTER and owns a promotion company. His goal is to PROMOTE his fighters so people go their fights. If you've spent 5 years trying to get Andrade or Tevin Farmer to sell tickets+subs you eventually learn they don't.

Hearn would be a fukking idiot to not put all his focus on his most marketable highest selling fighter.

The thing is though, he hasn’t done everything to promote Andrade. Where is Andrade’a 40 Days doc on DAZN? They haven’t released a training camp doc for Andrade since he signed in 2018. For a MW champ that’s unheard of. For comparison’s sake, In the same time Jermall Charlo has had the following produced.

-PBC Countdown, PBC Face to Face for the FOX Debut
-FOX special on the Charlo Twins
-2 separate All Access’s on Showtime (2020 and 2021)
-A Charlo twin doc on Showtime before their PPV

DAZN hasn’t had anything for Andrade. The man is at the other side of his career and has yet to have one proper training camp doc. That’s the bare minimum and they have failed. Same goes with Haney.

When people say DAZN is bad for boxing, THIS is why. This type of lack of promotion and lack of emphasis on fighters is going to drive the sport even more underground. That type of promotion works and is the absolute minimum a fighter of Andrade’s level and personality deserves.

People know more about Mario Barrios and Isaac Cruz than Boo Boo because they were on Showtime All Access. I have friends that are casuals that actually want to check for those two based on that alone! (It’s funny because Barrios was also on the Thurman Countdown and promo!!)

 

[The Ruler 09]

Wasn't Davidson Furys coach for his two best wins?

Nope, Peter Fury for Wlad fight and Sugar Hill for Wilder 2.

 

[The Ruler 09]

The thing is though, he hasn’t done everything to promote Andrade. Where is Andrade’a 40 Days doc on DAZN? They haven’t released a training camp doc for Andrade since he signed in 2018. For a MW champ that’s unheard of. For comparison’s sake, In the same time Jermall Charlo has had the following produced.

-PBC Countdown, PBC Face to Face for the FOX Debut
-FOX special on the Charlo Twins
-2 separate All Access’s on Showtime (2020 and 2021)
-A Charlo twin doc on Showtime before their PPV

DAZN hasn’t had anything for Andrade. The man is at the other side of his career and has yet to have one proper training camp doc. That’s the bare minimum and they have failed. Same goes with Haney.

When people say DAZN is bad for boxing, THIS is why. This type of lack of promotion and lack of emphasis on fighters is going to drive the sport even more underground. That type of promotion works and is the absolute minimum a fighter of Andrade’s level and personality deserves.

People know more about Mario Barrios and Isaac Cruz than Boo Boo because they were on Showtime All Access. I have friends that are casuals that actually want to check for those two based on that alone! (It’s funny because Barrios was also on the Thurman Countdown and promo!!)

I'm sure I watched some kind of Andrade documentary type thing prior to his last fight, it was interesting. I do think that type of content is good and hopefully do more of it. The reason why I like having DAZN as an option is it saves money, getting a lot within the package, so far haven't done PPV and from what they've said PPV's will be limited (if that changes could be an issue. Would be nice of Andrade got the Canelo shot one day. Andrade has got paid well but it's a shame the others haven't been willing to fight him, I feel for him and hope he gets a big fight asap while still in his prime, talented fighter.

 

[KingOFKings]

I'm sure I watched some kind of Andrade documentary type thing prior to his last fight, it was interesting. I do think that type of content is good and hopefully do more of it. The reason why I like having DAZN as an option is it saves money, getting a lot within the package, so far haven't done PPV and from what they've said PPV's will be limited (if that changes could be an issue. Would be nice of Andrade got the Canelo shot one day. Andrade has got paid well but it's a shame the others haven't been willing to fight him, I feel for him and hope he gets a big fight asap while still in his prime, talented fighter.

Nope. There is nothing from DAZN. You are most likely referring to some fan made one. Matchroom put out a few shorts (2 minutes), but nothing of quality.

Haney is already going down this route sadly. There is no excuse for this type of promo. The reality is they didn’t even do one for Canelo BJS or Canelo Yildrim. The last one they did was for Canelo Smith, which only got barely 700K views compared to the Multi Millions Canelo got for All Access. When you release such little quality promotion material, people do not know what to look out for (even for Canelo!). They had momentum when they first came out and were doing 40 Days for all the Joshua fights, Canelo, GGG. Then they just stopped. It’s mind blowing that we haven’t had one for Haney and Andrade…hell, even Ryan Garcia hasn’t had one. Ryan Garcia would even be better served elsewhere. That guy wold do crazy numbers on Showtime.

This is the fast track to shrinking a sport’s fan base and limiting your reach.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Nope. There is nothing from DAZN. You are most likely referring to some fan made one. Matchroom put out a few shorts (2 minutes), but nothing of quality.

Haney is already going down this route sadly. There is no excuse for this type of promo. The reality is they didn’t even do one for Canelo BJS or Canelo Yildrim. The last one they did was for Canelo Smith, which only got barely 700K views compared to the Multi Millions Canelo got for All Access. When you release such little quality promotion material, people do not know what to look out for (even for Canelo!). They had momentum when they first came out and were doing 40 Days for all the Joshua fights, Canelo, GGG. Then they just stopped. It’s mind blowing that we haven’t had one for Haney and Andrade…hell, even Ryan Garcia hasn’t had one. Ryan Garcia would even be better served elsewhere. That guy wold do crazy numbers on Showtime.

This is the fast track to shrinking a sport’s fan base and limiting your reach.

Think it may be this I saw...



But there was some stuff I've seen prior also.

Canelo vs BJS seemed to get quite big, obviously it involving Canelo helped but that seemed to resonate. I take your points though as I do think that's an area they can do more in, so hopefully they do. They do for certain fighters but I think they could do it a lot more with their other fighters. I know they've done pieces on Haney etc such as the long interview on DAZN which delves a bit deeper but they could do more. If Haney vs Kambosos happens that's the perfect opportunity to do it and go full steam with it.

 

[KingOFKings]

Think it may be this I saw...



But there was some stuff I've seen prior also.

Canelo vs BJS seemed to get quite big, obviously it involving Canelo helped but that seemed to resonate. I take your points though as I do think that's an area they can do more in, so hopefully they do. They do for certain fighters but I think they could do it a lot more with their other fighters. I know they've done pieces on Haney etc such as the long interview on DAZN which delves a bit deeper but they could do more. If Haney vs Kambosos happens that's the perfect opportunity to do it and go full steam with it.

I could have made that video on my phone, that is literally just him walking around prior to the fight and it’s on Matchroom’ Youtube, not DAZN’s youtube. Which is why it got a pitiful 6.7K views.

Speaking of Haney. This is the quality and numbers I want.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I could have made that video on my phone, that is literally just him walking around prior to the fight and it’s on Matchroom’ Youtube, not DAZN’s youtube. Which is why it got a pitiful 6.7K views.

I think it was on the actual DAZN platform but they uploaded it there too.