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reservoirdogs

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:merchant: This crazy fukk is gonna chase him to 168

Lol at least someone wants Andrade but dude better not chase him, he'll get burned at the end
 

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Me wanting to see Kambosos v Loma is based solely on my belief that Loma is the best lightweight in the world at the moment and I'd rather lightweight supremacy go thru him at this point, since I'm sure neither Kambosos or Haney would fight Loma if they don't have to, and they wouldn't have to if Kambosos v Haney took place.

Also Loma didn't refuse to fight Haney - TR presented him with the Teo fight and WBC presented him with that wack franchise belt. All Loma cares about is the belts and becoming undisputed. At the time Haney had no belt and Teo did, which is the only reason he fought Teo. I have no doubt that if Loma fought and beat Kambosos he would then fight Haney since now Haney has a belt and Lomas goal is to become undisputed.


It doesnt matter what you feel on this though, im only talking facts. And at the moment Loma doesnt have any belts. If he was the best lightweight in the world, he wouldnt have lost the belts. He wouldnt have gotten whopped by Teo. He was supposed to fight Haney for the WBC belt and he didnt, so it went to Devin. He could have fought one after the other but he didnt. Not that it would have mattered in his case, as Teo already proved hes better.

Loma forfeiting the belt to Haney is what caused all of this. Loma was the one who petitioned for said wackazz franchise belt, WBC confirmed this. Loma hasnt earned the right for anything to run though him, he blew his shots. At the end of the day theres a reason why he doesnt have any belts, and he has no one to blame but himself.

People want to see an undisputed showdown, and hes not apart of it. Youre just forcing him in where he doesnt fit. Loma would be the de facto mandatory to the winner of Haney-Kambosos anyway. Haney has literally been calling out Loma for years and that fight would be an insane payday why the hell wouldn't Haney fight him afterwards? Who else would Haney even fight with the whole division avoiding him? Youve provided no reasoning for this.
 

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It doesnt matter what you feel on this though, im only talking facts. And at the moment Loma doesnt have any belts. If he was the best lightweight in the world, he wouldnt have lost the belts. He wouldnt have gotten whopped by Teo. He was supposed to fight Haney for the WBC belt and he didnt, so it went to Devin. He could have fought one after the other but he didnt. Not that it would have mattered in his case, as Teo already proved hes better.

Loma forfeiting the belt to Haney is what caused all of this. Loma was the one who petitioned for said wackazz franchise belt, WBC confirmed this. Loma hasnt earned the right for anything to run though him, he blew his shots. At the end of the day theres a reason why he doesnt have any belts, and he has no one to blame but himself.

People want to see an undisputed showdown, and hes not apart of it. Youre just forcing him in where he doesnt fit. Loma would be the de facto mandatory to the winner of Haney-Kambosos anyway. Haney has literally been calling out Loma for years and that fight would be an insane payday why the hell wouldn't Haney fight him afterwards? Who else would Haney even fight with the whole division avoiding him? Youve provided no reasoning for this.

What I feel on this doesnt matter to you, and that's fine. But it matters to me, hence why I called it my belief in my previous message. And Teo didn't whoop Loma, he won 7-5. And I feel Loma has earned the right by dominating Nakatani and Commey. Add on the fact that the only person rated above Loma is Kambosos and Haney is rated below Loma by all reputable ranking sources. So he certainly does fit into the equation. Loma would not be a mandatory to the Kambosos- Haney either, so not sure where you got that "fact". But I'm sure it's probably from the same place where you got the notion that a fight vs Haney would be an insane payday lol smdh. According to @patscorpio Haney is having trouble making 135 so he's not gonna be in the division much longer regardless.

But hey, you want Kambosos v Haney and I want Kambosos vs Loma and we're each entitled to have our own prerogatives about that.
 

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Where is Frank getting this money from? He's technically bankrupt.

Frank said recently him and Bob are working together on Fury now, previously Bob was the U.S promoter and Frank U.K but it seems that's now changed going forward. They also did a deal with Fury beforehand cause they/he wanted control of the fight, so Fury will get less than what they paying, did that so they'd have a good shot at winning the purse bid. Ended up being the biggest ever purse bid in history.
 

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Win win really, Fury gets a lot of money, Whyte gets more than the original offer plus arbitration regarding the split etc as far as aware hasn't been finalized, with that being the case if it rules in his favour it's possible he'd get even more, WBC could potentially be libel to make up any difference.
 

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What I feel on this doesnt matter to you, and that's fine. But it matters to me, hence why I called it my belief in my previous message. And Teo didn't whoop Loma, he won 7-5. And I feel Loma has earned the right by dominating Nakatani and Commey. Add on the fact that the only person rated above Loma is Kambosos and Haney is rated below Loma by all reputable ranking sources. So he certainly does fit into the equation. Loma would not be a mandatory to the Kambosos- Haney either, so not sure where you got that "fact". But I'm sure it's probably from the same place where you got the notion that a fight vs Haney would be an insane payday lol smdh. According to @patscorpio Haney is having trouble making 135 so he's not gonna be in the division much longer regardless.

But hey, you want Kambosos v Haney and I want Kambosos vs Loma and we're each entitled to have our own prerogatives about that.

I said defacto mandatory, not official.
Haney vs Loma for undisputed wouldn't be a big fight?:what:

nah fam im just tryna figure you out fr. Before You said you wanted to see Loma vs Kambo and then Loma vs Haney. Now u saying Loma vs Haney fight is "lol smdh"?

And you still wont answer why u think Devin would avoid Loma after beating Kambosos and acquiring all the belts. What is that even based off of? What would he gain by ducking him? He has been personally calling him out for years. Hes an independent meaning he has no choice but to take and make the biggest fights he possibly can and build his profile while hes young. What other bigger fights would even be available for him as avoided as he is? Serious question.

It's funny, you talk about Loma wanting all the belts but ignore the fact that Haney wants that too and he actually has one. You talk about the belts in your last post, now you're talking about some rankings which we both know mean nothing as it pertains to the belts. There is a reason why unification bouts trump mandatorys.

I would like to agree to disagree but everything you say just sparks a new line of questioning.:dwillhuh: If you want to say "Loma is my boy and I just want him to get one last shot before he gets too old" thats fine. But all this other stuff you saying doesnt seem to add up, at all.

Comey and Nakatani??? Dog.
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Y’all member the

“PBC overpays they fighters N therefore can’t make any big fights cuz they price themselves narrative??”




Choc remembers :mjgrin:

I usually mention how Hearn does this too. Both do it. We didn't reach the ridiculous PPV stage with DAZN yet like how we did with PBC but they started later, I just suspect we will soon if they are throwing money at this rate.
 
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