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reservoirdogs said:
I usually mention how Hearn does this too. Both do it. We didn't reach the ridiculous PPV stage with DAZN yet like how we did with PBC but they started later, I just suspect we will soon if they are throwing money at this rate.
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:bryan: @ChocolateGiddyUp is just waiting until DAZN offers a fight on there thats not covered by the monthly subscription so he can give me the same shyt i gave him when i told him what PBC was doing
 
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Megadeus said:
I said defacto mandatory, not official.
Haney vs Loma for undisputed wouldn't be a big fight?:what:

nah fam im just tryna figure you out fr. Before You said you wanted to see Loma vs Kambo and then Loma vs Haney. Now u saying Loma vs Haney fight is "lol smdh"?

And you still wont answer why u think Devin would avoid Loma after beating Kambosos and acquiring all the belts. What is that even based off of? What would he gain by ducking him? He has been personally calling him out for years. Hes an independent meaning he has no choice but to take and make the biggest fights he possibly can and build his profile while hes young. What other bigger fights would even be available for him as avoided as he is? Serious question.

It's funny, you talk about Loma wanting all the belts but ignore the fact that Haney wants that too and he actually has one. You talk about the belts in your last post, now you're talking about some rankings which we both know mean nothing as it pertains to the belts. There is a reason why unification bouts trump mandatorys.

I would like to agree to disagree but everything you say just sparks a new line of questioning.:dwillhuh: If you want to say "Loma is my boy and I just want him to get one last shot before he gets too old" thats fine. But all this other stuff you saying doesnt seem to add up, at all.

Comey and Nakatani??? Dog.
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You did say defacto mandatory. Unfortunately defacto mandatories isn't a fact or a thing in boxing. You're either a mandatory or you're not. And again, Loma wouldn't be a mandatory to the Kambosos v Haney winner, like I said.

I agree Loma v Haney for undisputed would be a big fight but you said Haney v Loma would be an "insane payday", which I found laughable and wholly misguided. My lol smdh was in regards to that. Keep up son.

And I think Haney wouldn't fight Loma if he fought and beat Kambosos because he would have no reason to. He'd be undisputed and like I said before, wouldn't even remain at the weight cuz like I said before hes having trouble making the weight and would probably vacate and move up to 140.

Haney is independent? I coulda sworn he was a DAZN/Matchroom fighter...:dry:

I didn't ignore that Haney has a belt, wtf are you talking about? Like I said, if Loma fought Kambosos, I have no doubt he'd fight Haney afterwards SINCE Haney has a belt and Lomas goal is to become undisputed. If Haney fought Kambosos, he'd have no incentive to fight Loma afterwards since Loma doesnt have a belt and Haney would be undisputed. Nobody is fighting Loma if they don't have to. And I brought up the rankings to highlight my point that Loma is deserving of a shot at the titles since he's ranked higher than Haney in all the rankings.

I purposely separated my points to make this easier for you to follow. I hope it worked. And like I said, you're entitled to believe and want whatever fight you want bro. I'm not trynna change your mind. But saying the #2 fighter in the division doesn't deserve a shot at the titles is weird to me. But hey, I'll accept it as your opinion. I just vehemently and respectfully disagree.
 
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Mr. Leonidas said:
You did say defacto mandatory. Unfortunately defacto mandatories isn't a fact or a thing in boxing. You're either a mandatory or you're not. And again, Loma wouldn't be a mandatory to the Kambosos v Haney winner, like I said.

I agree Loma v Haney for undisputed would be a big fight but you said Haney v Loma would be an "insane payday", which I found laughable and wholly misguided. My lol smdh was in regards to that. Keep up son.

And I think Haney wouldn't fight Loma if he fought and beat Kambosos because he would have no reason to. He'd be undisputed and like I said before, wouldn't even remain at the weight cuz like I said before hes having trouble making the weight and would probably vacate and move up to 140.

Haney is independent? I coulda sworn he was a DAZN/Matchroom fighter...:dry:

I didn't ignore that Haney has a belt, wtf are you talking about? Like I said, if Loma fought Kambosos, I have no doubt he'd fight Haney afterwards SINCE Haney has a belt and Lomas goal is to become undisputed. If Haney fought Kambosos, he'd have no incentive to fight Loma afterwards since Loma doesnt have a belt and Haney would be undisputed. Nobody is fighting Loma if they don't have to. And I brought up the rankings to highlight my point that Loma is deserving of a shot at the titles since he's ranked higher than Haney in all the rankings.

I purposely separated my points to make this easier for you to follow. I hope it worked. And like I said, you're entitled to believe and want whatever fight you want bro. I'm not trynna change your mind. But saying the #2 fighter in the division doesn't deserve a shot at the titles is weird to me. But hey, I'll accept it as your opinion. I just vehemently and respectfully disagree.
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No one said it was "a fact in boxing" or whatever tf which is the point of me casually using the term 'de facto'. So you could stop it with the "ha the sky is blue, see I was right", when nobody said it wasnt.:mjlol:

Its naturally the next fight to be made and theres no reason why it wouldn't be made. As to this point, you yourself have yet to even come up with a good reason why it wouldn't be next, even after ive asked you twice. "He'd have no incentive" doesnt make sense as it would be the obvious and biggest fight to make, and hes trying to make big fights. Devin ducks a massive fight with a "#2 ranked" Loma, to rush to 140 and fight who? Youre not making sense. Theres zero logic in avoiding a huge and winnable fight if youre a 23 year old Devin Haney building your own promotional brand. Usually people take out all the top guys before leaving a division anyway, unlike Canelo. He doesnt have the luxury of running around cherrypicking as his name isnt big enough. NO top guys are trying to duck Loma and theres no indication that anyone ever has. Hes not no boogeyman. I dont know what youre even talking about. Youve just created this narrative that everyones trying to freeze Loma out which seems to be based off of nothing.
 
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Megadeus said:
No one said it was "a fact in boxing" or whatever tf which is the point of me casually using the term 'de facto'. So you could stop it with the "ha the sky is blue, see I was right", when nobody said it wasnt.:mjlol:
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Megadeus said:
It doesnt matter what you feel on this though, im only talking facts.
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You got it breh :shaq2:

Derek Lee said:
Coppinger said on "Max on Boxing" that Garcia and Lomachenko are ahead of Haney in the Kambosos sweepstakes as of now. If it's King Ry, the plan is for a fight on April for Garcia (and the same for Kambosos) around the same time, and a fight between the two during the fall. George views him as the easiest opponent out of the big lightweight names. There's complications about television rights between DiBella and Hearn behind the scenes.
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Bbbbut what about the insane payday!?!?! Lmao smdh
 
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Coppinger said on "Max on Boxing" that Garcia and Lomachenko are ahead of Haney in the Kambosos sweepstakes as of now. If it's King Ry, the plan is for a fight on April for Garcia (and the same for Kambosos) around the same time, and a fight between the two during the fall. George views him as the easiest opponent out of the big lightweight names. There's complications about television rights between DiBella and Hearn behind the scenes.
 
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