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Prograis career has to be boxing's biggest disappointment at the moment. 
Mark Magsayo Expected To Be Ordered By WBC To Next Face Rey Vargas
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BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:05 AM EST
Rey Vargas made the decision to sit back and allow another opponent to take place in the featherweight pecking order.
His patience has paid off, as the unbeaten former junior featherweight titlist will now get his shot at becoming a two-division titlist.
The most recent edition of the WBC’s weekly ‘Coffee Tuesdays’ online meeting revealed the sanctioning body is prepared to order newly crowned WBC featherweight titlist Mark Magsayo (24-0, 16KOs) to next face Vargas. Magsayo claimed the belt in a twelve-round, majority decision victory over long-reigning but criminally inactive Gary Russell Jr. (31-2, 18KOs) in their January 22 Showtime headliner from Borgata Casino Hotel & Spa in Atlantic City.
The opportunity was once due to go to Mexico’s Vargas (35-0, 22KOs), who instead chose to accept a stay busy fight following a lengthy ring absence. The decision paved the way for Magsayo to advance to the title stage, while coming with the promise that the unbeaten Mexican would be next in line.
“Having such a long (layoff due to) injury, then Covid, thank God I’m back,” Vargas stated during his guest appearance for WBC’s weekly session. “I can’t ask for anything more. Going straight for the title (versus Magsayo) makes me feel very, very happy.”
Vargas emerged as the mandatory challenger after moving up in weight following his lengthy WBC junior featherweight title reign. His featherweight debut was due to take place in March 2020, though shut down due to the initial wave of the ongoing pandemic. Hopes of returning once the sport was back in action were ruined after Vargas suffered a broken leg injury which kept him out of the ring for all of 2020 and much of 2021.
The 31-year-old from Otumba, Mexico—who is trained by the legendary Ignacio ‘Nacho’ Beristain—finally returned to the ring last November, earning a dominant ten-round, unanimous decision win over Leonardo Baez. The feat took place on the undercard of countryman Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez’ historic undisputed super middleweight championship knockout win over Caleb Plant.
It also meant allowing Magsayo to jump the line to face Russell, perhaps in a missed opportunity for Vargas.
Russell suggested that he fought through a pre-fight tendon tear which he aggravated in the fourth round of Saturday’s bout, which marked his sixth attempted title defense in nearly seven years. Magsayo didn’t quite capitalize, but ultimately did just enough to prevail in his first career title fight.
“Mark Magsayo is a bigger fighter (than Russell), but he’s smarter more so than just (relying on) power,” noted Vargas. “Magsayo is very smart in the ring.”
BY JAKE DONOVAN
Published Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:05 AM EST
Rey Vargas made the decision to sit back and allow another opponent to take place in the featherweight pecking order.
His patience has paid off, as the unbeaten former junior featherweight titlist will now get his shot at becoming a two-division titlist.
The most recent edition of the WBC’s weekly ‘Coffee Tuesdays’ online meeting revealed the sanctioning body is prepared to order newly crowned WBC featherweight titlist Mark Magsayo (24-0, 16KOs) to next face Vargas. Magsayo claimed the belt in a twelve-round, majority decision victory over long-reigning but criminally inactive Gary Russell Jr. (31-2, 18KOs) in their January 22 Showtime headliner from Borgata Casino Hotel & Spa in Atlantic City.
The opportunity was once due to go to Mexico’s Vargas (35-0, 22KOs), who instead chose to accept a stay busy fight following a lengthy ring absence. The decision paved the way for Magsayo to advance to the title stage, while coming with the promise that the unbeaten Mexican would be next in line.
“Having such a long (layoff due to) injury, then Covid, thank God I’m back,” Vargas stated during his guest appearance for WBC’s weekly session. “I can’t ask for anything more. Going straight for the title (versus Magsayo) makes me feel very, very happy.”
Vargas emerged as the mandatory challenger after moving up in weight following his lengthy WBC junior featherweight title reign. His featherweight debut was due to take place in March 2020, though shut down due to the initial wave of the ongoing pandemic. Hopes of returning once the sport was back in action were ruined after Vargas suffered a broken leg injury which kept him out of the ring for all of 2020 and much of 2021.
The 31-year-old from Otumba, Mexico—who is trained by the legendary Ignacio ‘Nacho’ Beristain—finally returned to the ring last November, earning a dominant ten-round, unanimous decision win over Leonardo Baez. The feat took place on the undercard of countryman Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez’ historic undisputed super middleweight championship knockout win over Caleb Plant.
It also meant allowing Magsayo to jump the line to face Russell, perhaps in a missed opportunity for Vargas.
Russell suggested that he fought through a pre-fight tendon tear which he aggravated in the fourth round of Saturday’s bout, which marked his sixth attempted title defense in nearly seven years. Magsayo didn’t quite capitalize, but ultimately did just enough to prevail in his first career title fight.
“Mark Magsayo is a bigger fighter (than Russell), but he’s smarter more so than just (relying on) power,” noted Vargas. “Magsayo is very smart in the ring.”
GRJ finally lost 
what a puzzle ass champion. You could go from John Samuel's to Dr. Samuel's during that time.
Scorpio curse always kicks in
what a puzzle ass champion. You could go from John Samuel's to Dr. Samuel's during that time.Scorpio curse always kicks in
Why is it?Whole boxing world wants that fight. (Canelo v Benavidez.)
We know why it won’t happen though.
You using that pic for 5 or so years for someone who loses a bet is mad sus breh......must have been a chrome mobile thing cause it worked for me on safari. but it's cool we finally got @ChocolateGiddyUp all sorted out. He part of the cartel now
My guess is Garcia KOs him rather easily and embarrassingly
i bet breh is rusty as hell man, we will see..
GRJ finally lost
Scorpio curse always kicks in
he lost after 7.5 years..what are you talking about?
Nacho: Canelo Hasn't Had Fight That Really Captured Hearts of The People
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BY SEAN NAM
Published Wed Jan 26, 2022, 08:24 AM EST
Canelo Alvarez still has a ways to go before he can merit a spot on the shortlist of Mexico’s greatest boxers, according to one educated observer’s opinion.
Ignacio ‘Nacho’ Beristain, the Hall of Fame Mexican trainer, does not believe his countryman Alvarez, the most accomplished fighter to come out of his homeland in this generation, deserves to be regarded with the greats of the past – at least not quite yet.
“I recognize that he’s a great fighter and athlete because he trains very well and his trainer prepares him well,” Beristain recently told FightHubTV, which provided subtitles of the interview in English. “But I don’t agree [that he is one of the greatest Mexican fighters ever].”
In boxing circles, at least, Beristain may be in the minority.
Alvarez, a four-weight class champion, is coming off a 2021 in which he unified the super middleweight division with a stoppage over Caleb Plant in November, making him the first fighter ever to completely unify the division. He also became the first fighter from Mexico to unify any division in the three or four-belt era, drawing a shower of hosannas from the boxing public.
Beristain, who has trained countless Mexican champions, from Gilberto Roman and Ricardo Lopez to Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar De La Hoya, was pleased to see such a record made by a compatriot, but he also made it clear he was not impressed with those accolades. For Alvarez to truly rise up to the ranks of Mexico’s gilded fistic past, Beristain says, he must find a way to inflame the passions of his people in the way that Julio Cesar Chavez consistently did in his career. A high bar, no doubt. Unlike Chavez, Beristain admits, Alvarez’s performances leave him feeling a bit cold.
“Doesn’t matter that he’s won the titles that he’s won and the money he’s making," Beristain said. “I recognize he’s a great fighter, but there’s still a little more he needs to do to be in the hearts of Mexican boxing fans.
“What’s missing is one or two fights of the type that Julio Cesar Chavez had and others. He fights and keeps fighting, but personally for me, as a trainer of many fighters, he doesn’t fulfill me. He hasn’t had a fight that has really captured the hearts of the people. He fights and wins and wins millions of dollars and that’s good. It makes me happy to see that he’s having success, but he hasn’t had that one fight we all want to see. He hasn’t had it.”
Beristain said he did not watch Alvarez’s last fight against Plant but recalls friends telling him it was not especially compelling and that even some skullduggery may have been afoot. (Alvarez won by a resounding 11th round knockout, and there was, to be sure, nothing fishy about it).
“I got three calls from people saying – and these are badass trainers – that said to me, ‘I’m watching this farce of a fight with Canelo. Plant fell without getting hit hard,’ Beristain said. “I didn’t see it. I can’t give my opinion, but those people said that Plant threw [the fight]. That makes like five fights that leave a lot of doubt. Because they can fool you or fans but not me because I’ve had a s- - - ton of time watching boxing.
“I still have hope to see him in a fight where he looks sensational. Because he wins and looks good but he doesn’t go that extra mile.”
In addition to Chavez, another fighter whom Beristain believes would behoove Alvarez to model himself after, in terms of a ring persona, is Manny Pacquiao, a fighter that Beristain went up against multiple times when he was the head trainer for Juan Manuel Marquez.
“Pacquiao, now that's a guy that deserves to be praised the world over because he fought and went through the ringer. He gave exciting fights. Canelo, no!
“He wins and knocks people out and they raise his hands and he wins a ton of money but he is not convincing [inside the ring].”
ridiculous...andy is not going to accept it...it would shock me if he did..gassiev might be injured again...awful