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[patscorpio]

 

[BOXINGGEMS]

dawg you don't have a point.
it's just another day another way for you to try and shoehorn a Crawford diss into a comment of yours. Dude lives in your head 24/7
your mans has a fukking mega fight next month and you worried about a nikka you supposedly don't like who don't even got a fight scheduled.
You worried about young guys not getting fights then focus on Ennis, but you ain't about to touch that with a 10 ft pole for obvious reasons. foh



fukk you talking about
Crawford would need to drop the belt , pay step aside money, or create a new belt to duck a mandatory. None of that happened and neither of them nikkas who were eligible forced the bout
yall nikkas create whole fantasies in your heads. i go off what actually happens.
what's Porter next fight and what's the purse? please let me know, cause he cuban B'd the shyt out his mando opportunity and ain't got shyt lined up far as i can see

You do know that the fighter can’t force the WBO to become a mandatory but the champion and his promoter can lobby for that right or they can call for a purse bid like they normally do when it’s somebody whoBud didn’t do either one. Shawn and his team didn’t want to fight for less than he gets on the regular. Bob Arum did not want to pay for Porter bc they will lose money bc Bud don’t sell. That’s facts. It wasn’t “Shawn who messed up the opportunity”. Top Rank don’t pay shyt bc they don’t believe in that nikka.

He also said he had “bigger plans” bc he wanted the Pac fight. Then proceeded to turn down the Pac fight when it was offered (this was confirmed by BoMac on Bernie’s YT, no need to debate).

So what exactly is Bud and TR doing? You explain who he should fight if not Vergil. Bc again, Vergil has a bigger win than anybody at 147 from TR and anybody coming up from 140 not named Josh Taylor and that’s not happening this year. Don’t say Jose Ramirez bc his biggest win is against who? Hooker who Vergil beat too? Smh lol

You good with Bud fighting Zepada over Vergil or Boots? And when Vergil beats Mean Machine and officially becomes the mandatory, it’s gon be cool to duck him for Jose Ramirez right?

 

[desjardins]

My point is WHAT MORE DEVELOPMENT DOES VERGIL ORTIZ NEED HE BEEN.BIXING SINCE HE WAS 7, WHY NOT STEP UP NOW? It aint got shyt to do with Crawford vs Spence and Crawford vs Pac, and I used it because IT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE fukk I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!

um he is stepping up idiot. he fighting MM, apparently that's the fight his promoter wanted if they didn't even try to force a mando or have any real negotiations to fight Bud
you seem more mad about it then they are
that was the one example of a young fighter you could come up with huh, the one that involved Bud huh
Not the guy who is on the stacked side of the division and has dudes pretending they never heard of him huh. mando don't even got to be involved to make those fights either
F.O.H

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

um he is stepping up idiot. he fighting MM, apparently that's the fight his promoter wanted if they didn't even try to force a mando or have any real negotiations to fight Bud
you seem more mad about it then they are
that was the one example of a young fighter you could come up with huh, the one that involved Bud huh
Not the guy who is on the stacked side of the division and has dudes pretending they never heard of him huh. mando don't even got to be involved to make those fights either
F.O.H

It's the best example to use, it aint my fault Crawford hasn't fought a fight worth caring about in 4 years and the only relevant way to bring him up is about how he should be fighting the young lion calling him out and is ranked #1 in his sanctioning body. Ennis is not in that position as much as you want him to be, he is a good fighter but he is not a mando, Ortiz is. THAT is why I used that example. What other fighter I'm supposed to use, Jaime Munguia?

You better hope MM actually does put up a good fight against Ortiz otherwise nikkas is finna be on Crawford ass for real. If Ortiz gets him outta there in 3 rounds or some shyt the mental gymnastics you gonna do for damage control.

 

[BOXINGGEMS]

um he is stepping up idiot. he fighting MM, apparently that's the fight his promoter wanted if they didn't even try to force a mando or have any real negotiations to fight Bud
you seem more mad about it then they are
that was the one example of a young fighter you could come up with huh, the one that involved Bud huh
Not the guy who is on the stacked side of the division and has dudes pretending they never heard of him huh. mando don't even got to be involved to make those fights either
F.O.H

How is MM a step up?! nikka! He got beat by Ray Robinson and got knocked out by Bud. Vergil already beat a former champion, Green Machine ain’t beat nobody worth a damn…just bc he dropped Bud don’t make him a good fighter. He hasn’t proven shyt.

Vergil wanted the fight, Bud said it wasn’t happening. TR and Bud turned it down. You dikk riding heavy! Lol

 

[desjardins]

You do know that the fighter can’t force the WBO to become a mandatory but the champion and his promoter can lobby for that right or they can call for a purse bid like they normally do when it’s somebody whoBud didn’t do either one. Shawn and his team didn’t want to fight for less than he gets on the regular. Bob Arum did not want to pay for Porter bc they will lose money bc Bud don’t sell. That’s facts. It wasn’t “Shawn who messed up the opportunity”. Top Rank don’t pay shyt bc they don’t believe in that nikka.



You good with Bud fighting Zepada over Vergil or Boots? And when Vergil beats Mean Machine and officially becomes the mandatory, it’s gon be cool to duck him for Jose Ramirez right?

stop lying , right from the wbo site. Nobody had a gun to Ortiz head to take the MM fight now. He could have leveraged his ranking even if it meant waiting a couple months

A classified boxer may request recognition as Mandatory Challenger in writing to the
WBO on a form which contain substantially the provisions of the Application for
Designation as Mandatory Contender contained on the WBO web site. Alternatively,
the Committee may designate a Mandatory Challenger based on the above criteria.
In either event, the Mandatory Challenger must agree to be subject to and to abide
by the Regulations and to be bound to participate in and comply with the results of a
purse bid. The World Championship Committee may deny a request for recognition
based on any of the above referred criteria or because the Champion has an
approved unification bout, or an approved unification tournament is scheduled, or if
the Champion is contesting the Championship with a WBO Super Champion or a
WBO Champion, or for other good cause.

Shawn Porter's previous purses are public, since Bud would certainly get more than his usual $4-5 mil for a Porter fight that 25% worse case purse bid still would be in line with Porters historic career highs plus he'd get a chance at the belt. Only dummies falling for that mandatory would be too low for a nikka who never made over 2 mil or been a real A side

You ok with Thurman, Ugas and Porter fighting nobody or doing another round robin fight nobody care about vs fighting Vergil or Ennis . Like what kind of question is that


Oh and Bud never signed the Manny situation cause it was clearly bullshyt. nikka demanding $40 mil guarantee from TR when he only got $10mil guarantee for fighting thurman and that shyt barely sold half a mil so he certainly ain't clear no where near $40 mil for that.
Let's see how much Manny make for this Spence fight. I doubt it's anywhere near $40m even with the lion share and backend
(the fact Arum was flying all over the world just to get the $20 mil for them trash late TR fights like Horn and manny probably was making more on TR for then he made at PBC is another discussion tho )

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Soooo nobody goin tell the Bud cheer leader that Ortiz called out Bud immediately after whooping Buds friends ass in front of him N Bud said it’s not goin happen DURING the call out

 

[patscorpio]

 

[BOXINGGEMS]

stop lying , right from the wbo site. Nobody had a gun to Ortiz head to take the MM fight now. He could have leveraged his ranking even if it meant waiting a couple months


Shawn Porter's previous purses are public, since Bud would certainly get more than his usual $4-5 mil for a Porter fight that 25% worse case purse bid still would be in line with Porters historic career highs plus he'd get a chance at the belt. Only dummies falling for that mandatory would be too low for a nikka who never made over 2 mil or been a real A side

You ok with Thurman, Ugas and Porter fighting nobody or doing another round robin fight nobody care about vs fighting Vergil or Ennis . Like what kind of question is that

I see, bet. You a dikk rider lol … Did you read what you posted. Where does it says a challenger can FORCE the mandatory status?



He may REQUEST . Which is what they did more than likely because he now is FIGHTING FOR THE TITLE ELIMINATOR. Tf is wrong with you?

Read Section 1b-7

(7) To order an eliminatory bout or bouts for good cause, including, but not limited to circumstances such as when a higher classified boxer has been denied the designation of Mandatory Challenger because he was not acceptable to a Champion’s television network or where a box off is determined for a vacant championship; and

Straight dikk ridin

 

[FreedMind]

@ChocolateGiddyUp Canelo is gonna fold ya boy I'm just being honest.

 

[FreedMind]

but why are you as a fan complaining about a fighter having to fight someone? If you believe he’s the best it should be easy money.

We're 'complaining' because we're demanding to see great fights on more dates than just Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day.

Canelo can only fight one man on a given night, and is fighting perhaps two or three times a year. If there's 8 of these guys lined up, why wouldn't we demand that they make great fights with one another in the meantime??

Are these guys supposed to wait years waiting for Canelo?

I mean, i know guys like Charlo and Andrade already have, but the answer is supposed to be NO.

 

[desjardins]

Vergil wanted the fight, Bud said it wasn’t happening. TR and Bud turned it down. You dikk riding heavy! Lol

he got no (real) belt and barely has a fan base. barely sold out a 5000 seat venue in his hometown
Bud not prioritizing an up and comer really ain't no where near a big deal as you trying make it

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

And Haye no longer manages chisora which news broke out on the weekend.

 

[desjardins]

I see, bet. You a dikk rider lol … Did you read what you posted. Where does it says a challenger can FORCE the mandatory status?



He may REQUEST . Which is what they did more than likely because he now is FIGHTING FOR THE TITLE ELIMINATOR. Tf is wrong with you?

Read Section 1b-7

Straight dikk ridin

dude read the whole site. they spell it all out
there are provisions for mandatories to force the issue. that's the whole fukking point of being a mandatory. If the WBO did some fukkery or were dragging their feet. that's one thing but i never saw any evidence of that being the case
all i saw were dudes not press the issue and take other fights or go podcast about other fights

 

[patscorpio]

And Haye no longer manages chisora which news broke out on the weekend.

i always thought it was odd he was managing him in the first place..esp with the fukkery that happened between them before their fight

haye vs chisora was a nice little brawl..the last good haye performance before the injuries did him in