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[Dallas' 4 Eva]

What don't you understand?
Victor Ortiz ain't no priority right now, Bud literally said that already. So why bring it up, Ortiz already got plans and is obviously still developing. If he try to force a mandatory in the future that's something else and a bridge crossed when due
Bud need to concentrate on his formality fight to satisfy his contract for now. Winner of Spence/Manny will have two whole months to work with Haymon to have some kind of deal ready the moment Arum is out the picture. By late Oct they will have days if not weeks to work with Bud directly to iron out a fight. No excuses. Nobody give a fukk about Victor Ortiz with that on the table. I don't even see any huge public demand for that fight right now.

You still missing the point stanley, put your man crush to the side for a second. I'm saying Ortiz and Crawford should be fighting in October, how much more development does he need? It has nothing to do with Spence and Pac and Crawford situation at all and everything to do with these fighters waiting to long to finally step up. Pop Crawford's dikk out your mouth for a second bro damn.

 

[patscorpio]

What don't you understand?
Victor Ortiz ain't no priority right now, Bud literally said that already. So why bring it up, Ortiz already got plans and is obviously still developing. If he try to force a mandatory in the future that's something else and a bridge crossed when due
Bud need to concentrate on his formality fight to satisfy his contract for now. Winner of Spence/Manny will have two whole months to work with Haymon to have some kind of deal ready the moment Arum is out the picture. By late Oct they will have days if not weeks to work with Bud directly to iron out a fight. No excuses. Nobody give a fukk about Victor Ortiz with that on the table. I don't even see any huge public demand for that fight right now.

i think you mean Vergil Ortiz breh lol

 

[aceboon]

Collazo was just tweeting the other day that he was retiring

 

[patscorpio]

Collazo was just tweeting the other day that he was retiring

2 former faded welterweight champions the undercard for 2 fighters with no real clout or hype behind them for an interim belt


i hate this card

 

[desjardins]

I'm saying Ortiz and Crawford should be fighting in October

But they not and Bud got way bigger fish to fry afterwards. If Ortiz wasn't booked and busy and campaigning for a Bud fight that would be one thing. But far as I can tell they moved right along to fight MM without much fuss so....

 

[patscorpio]

cryptic

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

But they not and Bud got way bigger fish to fry afterwards. If Ortiz wasn't booked and busy and campaigning for a Bud fight that would be one thing. But far as I can tell they moved right along to fight MM without much fuss so....

Bro you're an idiot and you still don't get it. Stop quoting me.

 

[BOXINGGEMS]

What don't you understand?
Victor Ortiz ain't no priority right now, Bud literally said that already. So why bring it up, Ortiz already got plans and is obviously still developing. If he try to force a mandatory in the future that's something else and a bridge crossed when due
Bud need to concentrate on his formality fight to satisfy his contract for now. Winner of Spence/Manny will have two whole months to work with Haymon to have some kind of deal ready the moment Arum is out the picture. By late Oct they will have days if not weeks to work with Bud directly to iron out a fight. No excuses. Nobody give a fukk about Victor Ortiz with that on the table. I don't even see any huge public demand for that fight right now.

How is he not priority?! Wasn’t the excuse for fighting Green Machine “he’s my mandatory”. Wasn’t that the excuse he made for Benavidez? So now that it’s Vergil now mandatories are optional and they need to prove it? But Mean Machine fought to a draw with Ray Robinson and arguably lost the fight but he get a shot having fought nobody…disregarding the fact Vergil is a bigger name than any of the guys over at Top Rank except Josh Taylor that he can potentially fight.

This is exactly what I mean when I say the fans help these nikkas duck by spewing they narratives and not being consistent. He always talking that, he was my mandatory shyt but Vergil is now and he screaming for the fight but he got to do more. nikka Vergil got a BIGGER WIN with Maurice Hooker than Bud at 147!



If Top Rank Toby duck this mando after already ducking Porter I don’t want to hear shyt bout this nikka no more. It should be a ban for a nikka bringing his name up here until he fight somebody credible.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

How is he not priority?! Wasn’t the excuse for fighting Green Machine “he’s my mandatory”. Wasn’t that the excuse he made for Benavidez? So now that it’s Vergil now mandatories are optional and they need to prove it? But Mean Machine fought to a draw with Ray Robinson and arguably lost the fight but he get a shot having fought nobody…disregarding the fact Vergil is a bigger name than any of the guys over at Top Rank except Josh Taylor that he can potentially fight.

This is exactly what I mean when I say the fans help these nikkas duck by spewing they narratives and not being consistent. He always talking that, he was my mandatory shyt but Vergil is now and he screaming for the fight but he got to do more. nikka Vergil got a BIGGER WIN with Maurice Hooker than Bud at 147!



If Top Rank Toby duck this mando after already ducking Porter I don’t want to hear shyt bout this nikka no more. It should be a ban for a nikka bringing his name up here until he fight somebody credible.

He completely missed my point bruh. I'm sitting here talking about why fighters shouldn't wait so long to step up to the next level he over here trying to make it into Crawford vs the world.

 

[Knicksman20]

That was a tough fight to watch back then

 

[BOXINGGEMS]

He completely missed my point bruh. I'm sitting here talking about why fighters shouldn't wait so long to step up to the next level he over here trying to make it into Crawford vs the world.

I see it. Bro Leonard vs Hearns happened early af in their career. Leonard was 25 and Hearns was 22. A lot of the past fighters were young and fighting the best. Now we always gotta wait til they 27-30 to get them in the ring. But again the fans allow the bullshyt to take place by not putting the pressure on these dudes.

 

[Knicksman20]

cryptic

Probably another exhibition

 

[patscorpio]

That was a tough fight to watch back then

yeah gatti was all used up..he had nothing for gomez...it was sad

 

[desjardins]

Bro you're an idiot and you still don't get it. Stop quoting me.

dawg you don't have a point.
it's just another day another way for you to try and shoehorn a Crawford diss into a comment of yours. Dude lives in your head 24/7
your mans has a fukking mega fight next month and you worried about a nikka you supposedly don't like who don't even got a fight scheduled.
You worried about young guys not getting fights then focus on Ennis, but you ain't about to touch that with a 10 ft pole for obvious reasons. foh

If Top Rank Toby duck this mando after already ducking Porter I don’t want to hear shyt bout this nikka no more. It should be a ban for a nikka bringing his name up here until he fight somebody credible.

fukk you talking about
Crawford would need to drop the belt , pay step aside money, or create a new belt to duck a mandatory. None of that happened and neither of them nikkas who were eligible forced the bout
yall nikkas create whole fantasies in your heads. i go off what actually happens.
what's Porter next fight and what's the purse? please let me know, cause he cuban B'd the shyt out his mando opportunity and ain't got shyt lined up far as i can see

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

dawg you don't have a point.
it's just another day another way for you to try and shoehorn a Crawford diss into a comment of yours. Dude lives in your head 24/7
your mans has a fukking mega fight next month and you worried about a nikka you supposedly don't like who don't even got a fight scheduled.
You worried about young guys not getting fights then focus on Ennis, but you ain't about to touch that with a 10 ft pole for obvious reasons. foh

First of all Ennis is not ranked #1 by ANY SANCTIONING BODY last I checked, he can't force a mando with ANYBODY. He isn't in the position Ortiz is in, and it's Vergil Ortiz not Victor Ortiz you fukking idiot, this isn't 2012.

Go read my original post and look at what we were talking about fighters taking too long to step up and here you go on wild tangents to defend your weak ass man crush in a situation where he wasn't even being shyt on.

My point is WHAT MORE DEVELOPMENT DOES VERGIL ORTIZ NEED HE BEEN.BIXING SINCE HE WAS 7, WHY NOT STEP UP NOW? It aint got shyt to do with Crawford vs Spence and Crawford vs Pac, and I used it because IT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE fukk I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!

Jesus fukking christ you are hard headed as a mufukka bruh.