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Opinions split on the use of them.
On the one hand there are those who argue it's legit science that can be applied to boxing and show results on the other hand there are those who say it's a bit of a hype, smoke n mirrors thing that doesn't really work in practice but fighters do nevertheless cause most of them try to take any possible advantage.

The truth is probably between the two somewhere. Nutritionists can be useful for making weight, keeping healthy but SnC coaches got somewhat overrated during the years. For us to say it works it needs proof that it does, now this is not a measurable thing but in my and many others opinion fighters didn't have a worse stamina when they didn't have SnC coaches decades back, I don't see the change or if I do I see older fighters a bit more fight fit.
SnC coaches are probably not the only factor in this but one of them, they didn't push fighters' fitness to a whole new level at least for all the supposedly scientific talk.

There were assistant trainers back in the days too but they were no SnC coaches, the trainer kept tab on every aspect of the preparation, I guess the SnC wave coming along gave trainers an opportunity to get off a chunk of their work dose so they were like "why not...",when there were no SnC coaches the trainer did what the SnC coach does now just not on a (supposedly) scientific base. I don't want to be a denier of science but I really just don't see the big improvement SnC guy brought with them... I don't say they hurt boxers' preparation but nothing else other than doing part of the job that the trainer did all the same decades back.

And Spence as an example for the use of them? Spence has a great stamina, dude can fight for days... He didn't just outpoint the 2 Garcias because he didn't have SnC trainers and nutritionists. If anything Spence is an example why you can be alright without them imo.


He said that he got tired versus Danny and that he needs to get back with his trainer after the fight. He also said that he can’t keep ballooning between fights and having his training camps be “fat camps.” I mean, he’s literally eating peanut butter sandwiches to make weight during camp. You’re telling me he couldn’t be even better and stronger with a legit nutrition plan to that allows him to cut weight and eat more balanced meals?
 
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He said that he got tired versus Danny and that he needs to get back with his trainer after the fight. He also said that he can’t keep ballooning between fights and having his training camps be “fat camps.”
He was also coming back after more than a year forced layoff during which he recovered from the accident too. I didn't see him huffing and pussing at least. Hire a nutritionist to make weight easier... ok, still skeptical on the use of SnC guys, as I said just don't see how they ushered fighters' fitness to a new level. And if they didn't what's the point other than relieving the trainer from a part of their workload?
 

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He was also coming back after more than a year forced layoff during which he recovered from the accident too. I didn't see him huffing and pussing at least. Hire a nutritionist to make weight easier... ok, still skeptical on the use of SnC guys, as I said just don't see how they ushered fighters' fitness to a new level. And if they didn't what's the point other than relieving the trainer from a part of their workload?

I think it was De la Hoya that said you’re doing yourself a disservice if you don’t have a coach pushing you on the fitness side as well. Spence basically trains himself in terms of S&C. I think the last fight he was with Blue was the Kell Brook fight. Has it worked for him so far? Yeah. But, when he says stuff like he didn’t even train his abs for a fight, which he’s said before - I think that’s indicative that he actually does need a strength and conditioning coach. Most fighters aren’t super motivated on some Hager/Floyd shyt that can compartmentalize everything and just train, train, train, workout, workout, workout. They’ll cut corners. I don’t begrudge them for that, because I’d do the same; but that’s why I’d have a coach. Even as great as Canelo is - how many rumors have we heard about his lack of road work, or that he would cut sessions or quit sessions whenever he felt like it? That he would half ass it and wasn’t really pushing himself? We haven’t heard as much of that lately primarily because his stamina has been better, but it was a big piece of the conversation around Canelo’s stamina over the years.

I’ll put it like this: if Spence ever fights Crawford, I bet he doesn’t go into the fight thinking he’s going to beat him with a peanut butter sandwich diet and taking the strength side of things lightly. He seems to be genuine enough to know he could be even better. How that manifests itself in the future, I guess we’ll see.
 
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