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Haney's best win is a washed Gamboa in a lackluster fight who he couldn't put away bro. Besides us hard cores, what kind of credit will Teo get for beating him now?
What credit will Teo get for unifying the division is that what you asking ? Just trying to make sure I'm reading that right.
 

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What credit will Teo get for unifying the division is that what you asking ? Just trying to make sure I'm reading that right.

I'm all for unifications but Teo beat the man in the division to be top dog. He's the Ring champ at LW which is what matters. He also beat Commey (which that win is better than anything Haney's done) a couple fights ago impressively to grab a belt. That W is what got him the Loma fight.

Haney needs to bring more to the table if he wants a fight with Teo. And his W over Gamboa didn't' really make a case for it. He needs better win/s
 

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I'm all for unifications but Teo beat the man in the division to be top dog. He's the Ring champ at LW which is what matters. He also beat Commey (which that win is better than anything Haney's done) a couple fights ago impressively to grab a belt. That W is what got him the Loma fight.

Haney needs to bring more to the table if he wants a fight with Teo. And his W over Gamboa didn't' really make a case for it. He needs better win/s

Teo got all the belts so these other brehs need to just fight each other and winner gets Teo.
 

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Teo got all the belts so these other brehs need to just fight each other and winner gets Teo.

Pretty much. Teo has one foot in the division & one foot out & Haney needs to do way more than he has if he wants a unification bout. If he had a marquee name or two under his belt already I'm sure we'd be talking about them fighting this year
 

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I'm all for unifications but Teo beat the man in the division to be top dog. He's the Ring champ at LW which is what matters. He also beat Commey (which that win is better than anything Haney's done) a couple fights ago impressively to grab a belt. That W is what got him the Loma fight.

Haney needs to bring more to the table if he wants a fight with Teo. And his W over Gamboa didn't' really make a case for it. He needs better win/s
I can't agree with this , especially if you're going to stay in the division. None of these fighters have crazy resumes so under majority of circumstances your idea as a young fighter should be to unify all the belts. Teo should just drop the belts and move up to 140 if he has no intentions on unifying the belts


For example: Patrick Teixeira hasn't fought anyone imagine charlo saying I'm not going to fight him cause his resumes light:mjlol:
Teo got all the belts
this is false, he doesn't have the WBC belt
 
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I can't agree with this , especially if you're going to stay in the division. None of these fighters have crazy resumes so under majority of circumstances your idea as a young fighter should be to unify all the belts. Teo should just drop the belts and move up to 140 if he has no intentions on unifying the belts

By the interviews he's given he's leaning towards 140. We all knew this pre Loma so we can't act surprised. Haney's done nothing to separate himself from his peers. If he can't get one of them then he should be fighting the best available opponents which is what he hasn't been doing clearly
 

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I can't agree with this , especially if you're going to stay in the division. None of these fighters have crazy resumes so under majority of circumstances your idea as a young fighter should be to unify all the belts. Teo should just drop the belts and move up to 140 if he has no intentions on unifying the belts

this is false, he doesn't have the WBC belt

lol ok then. Ryan vs Haney for WBC title mid year, winner fights Teo end of year for undisputed status.
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By the interviews he's given he's leaning towards 140. We all knew this pre Loma so we can't act surprised. Haney's done nothing to separate himself from his peers. If he can't get one of them then he should be fighting the best available opponents which is what he hasn't been doing clearly
No he's fighting his mandatory which is some bum from all indication he's defending his belts. Should charlo not fight Teixeira because he hasn't fought anyone. I've never heard anyone excusing fighters of not fighting other Champs pretty wild :dead:
 

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No he's fighting his mandatory which is some bum from all indication he's defending his belts. Should charlo not fight Teixeira because he hasn't fought anyone. I've never heard anyone excusing fighters of not fighting other Champs pretty wild :dead:

You're clearly a Haney stan bro & you're refusing to see what I'm getting at lol
 

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I know what you getting at the excuses for ducking is wild. But hey george kambosos better than unifying:hubie::mjlol:

No you don't with them stan goggles on. Teo's EARNED the position to call his own shots & go make a big fight where he pleases because he put the work in at his division to do that unlike Haney.

You'd rather see your boy Haney fighting midget 38 year olds coming off an achilles injury, & no hope mando's then him making the best fights available to put himself in a position for a bigger fight lol
 

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No you don't with them stan goggles on. Teo's EARNED the position to call his own shots & go make a big fight where he pleases because he put the work in at his division to do that unlike Haney.

You'd rather see your boy Haney fighting midget 38 year olds coming off an achilles injury, & no hope mando's then him making the best fights available to put himself in a position for a bigger fight lol
I can't believe we in here arguing about a guy who's beat one fighter prestige fighter in Loma on points of having the luxury of controlling his career like he beat canelo or a Floyd versus Oscar:dead:. Whatever you win bro I quit :hubie:
 

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No you don't with them stan goggles on. Teo's EARNED the position to call his own shots & go make a big fight where he pleases because he put the work in at his division to do that unlike Haney.

You'd rather see your boy Haney fighting midget 38 year olds coming off an achilles injury, & no hope mando's then him making the best fights available to put himself in a position for a bigger fight lol

To be fair, the WBC did fukk up a potential Loma Haney fight with the Franchise champ shyt.

Nonetheless, Haney did not do himself any favors by cruising to a decision against Gamboa. It was dominant, but it's a performance that is getting completely overshadowed by Teo beating Loma; Gervonta knocking out Santa Cruz; and Garcia stopping Campbell.

It's a hard spot to be in for a young fighter who is clearly talented.





I get the unification, best fighting the best talk and all that, but we have got to be realistic. Between all the promotional issues, network issues, and negotiation issues, the fights that Haney covets don't seem likely (or even highly demanded) at 135, which isn't a big deal considering he's already talked seriously about moving up to 140 anyways.

He should move up and get a hold on the junior welterweight division, which is where most of these fighters are going to end up anyways.

Go fight a Prograis, Ramirez, Postol, Zepeda, and other rated fighters. Get the names and experience that Haney needs at 22.
 
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I'm all for unifications but Teo beat the man in the division to be top dog. He's the Ring champ at LW which is what matters. He also beat Commey (which that win is better than anything Haney's done) a couple fights ago impressively to grab a belt. That W is what got him the Loma fight.

Haney needs to bring more to the table if he wants a fight with Teo. And his W over Gamboa didn't' really make a case for it. He needs better win/s
that's a wack ass excuse . since when does a belt holder have to bring "more to the table" to fight another belt holder :stopitslime:.

that's the type of logic that stopped AJ vs Wilder ,, bud vs spence ,, and canelo unifying the 160 division
 
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