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Teo got all the belts so these other brehs need to just fight each other and winner gets Teo.
Pretty much. Teo has one foot in the division & one foot out & Haney needs to do way more than he has if he wants a unification bout. If he had a marquee name or two under his belt already I'm sure we'd be talking about them fighting this year
while yall making excuses for a champ not to fight a champ ,,,, Devin Haney was the one guy that popped into Teo mind when asked who he wants to fight next


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lol ok then. Ryan vs Haney for WBC title mid year, winner fights Teo end of year for undisputed status.
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I'm all for a tourney style fight ryan vs haney and winner take all fights Teo ,, but lets not pretend Haney isn't on the champion radar . he got injured and Gambao was his comeback fight but I forget boxing fans have selective memory
 

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RING EXCLUSIVE: CANELO ALVAREZ MAPS OUT HIS PLANS FOR 2021
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BY JOSEPH SANTOLIQUITO
Now that it’s in the rearview mirror, 2020 was not a year to remember for anyone. It short-circuited the world, and it certainly yanked the grand plans of superstar fighters like Canelo Alvarez, The Ring and the world’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter.

Boxing revolves around Alvarez—like it once did Floyd Mayweather, which is the heights in which Canelo has attained.

With 2021 arriving, Alvarez (54-1-2, 36 knockouts) has severed his promotional ties from Golden Boy Promotions and his broadcasting obligations to streaming service DAZN to become a free agent.

Alvarez is big enough to do so, transcending the sport to the point where he is able to call his own shots, who he wants to fight, on what network he wants to fight on, eschewing the entanglements that prevented him from fighting anyone from Top Rank, Premier Boxing Champions or Matchroom.

In an exclusive interview with The Ring, Alvarez spoke about his plans to stay at 168 pounds and collect all of the titles there. Canelo is currently The Ring/WBA/WBC super middleweight champion, and The Ring/WBA middleweight beltholder.

Billy Joe Saunders (30-0, 14 KOS) holds the WBO 168-pound belt and Caleb Plant (20-0, 12 KOs) is the IBF super middleweight titlist. Beyond them, there is also David Benavidez (23-0, 20 KOs) at 168, WBC middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo (31-0, 22 KOs) and IBF 160-pound beltholder Gennadiy Golovkin (41-1-1, 36 KOs).

So, Alvarez has plenty of options for his plans to fight in February, to fulfill a WBC mandatory obligation against Avni Yildirim (21-2, 12 KOs), then go back to his traditional schedule of fighting Cinco de Mayo weekend in early May and in September during Mexican Independence Day weekend.

“I’ve worked hard for this and it’s a great situation to be in,” Alvarez said during a conversation with The Ring during the Christmas holiday. “It’s a pretty simple plan for 2021, fight for all of the belts at 168 and fight three times, maybe four. We’ll see.

“I want to take all of the titles (at 168). My goal is to fight anyone at 168 if they have a title, that’s who I’m going to go after. The goal is February, May and September. That’s our goal for 2021.”

Canelo made this point emphatic: If Golovkin wants to fight a third time, he would have to come up to face him at 168. Golovkin is a very large middleweight, and it would not be a stretch physically.

The two fought to a draw in 2017 and a year later, Alvarez beat Golovkin by majority decision in 2018. Over the last two years, Alvarez has become a far more complete fighter and would be heavily favored if the two were to meet again a third time.

Alvarez has been that overpowering.

Besides, Canelo feels, what else is there to prove against “GGG”?


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“I don’t have to prove anything to anyone, I did my job already by beating him twice and right now, I want to stay at 168, and if (GGG) wants to move up, we’ll see what happens, if that’s what the fans really want,” he said. “I’m at 168 and I don’t have to do any favors for anyone. I’m at 168 and our goal is to unify here.

“I feel good right now, I feel strong. I feel like I’m at my peak and I continue working hard. If a fight happens a third time (with GGG), I feel so good that I could I most likely knock him out and do some serious damage.”


Alvarez is also at a nice juncture in his life. The media during his fight with Callum Smith in San Antonio gave him nothing but rave reviews as to being accessible and incredibly approachable.

Canelo maintains that he’s always been that way. He realizes that the media obligations are a part of the business.

“In the past, it could be with the old promoter that I had, maybe they may have said some things about me that were not true, false statements about the way I was or about my character, but I always showed love and respect to the media and to my fans,” Alvarez said. “We all work together, the media, the fans to make the fights. I love my fans.”

Alvarez’s trainer, Eddy Reynoso, the 2019 Boxing Writers Association of America Trainer of the Year, says Canelo can be ever better. The boxing world is now coming to Team Canelo.

“We’re independent and we can talk to anyone we want to right now and we have some great plans for the future,” Reynoso said. “The plan is to fight our mandatory in February and then fight again in May and in September. Maybe we’ll look at Saunders down the line and then Plant. Our goal is to be the first unified Mexican super middleweight champion.

“We want to unify all of the titles and fight the best 168-pounders out there. GGG is fighting at 160, but our goal is to fight at 168. Benavidez is a good fighter, but the only thing about him is that he does not have a belt. He has accomplished a lot in his career, but Saul is about winning all of the belts.

“We also don’t know if Benavidez can reach 168 pounds anymore. There is no purpose to fight him right now.

“GGG can come up to fight 168, even though it looks like he can make 160 comfortably. If he wants to stay there, that’s fine, that’s his choice. But if GGG or Charlo wants to come up and fight at 168, that’s fine, too. We have no problem fighting anyone.


“Canelo went through a very stressful time with the former contract and we had to make a decision on what we wanted to do, and we took a risk in getting out of the contracts. There was light at the end, and we fought and beat a difficult champion in Callum Smith.

“I don’t think I ever saw Canelo so happy after he beat Smith. He was back in the ring doing something he loves to do. He’s always learning and right now his mindset and training mode is like he’s just starting his career. We’re looking to have a great 2021.”

Right now, Alvarez looks like he could beat Godzilla.

There’s no disputing he’s the Godzilla of boxing.

Ring Exclusive: Canelo Alvarez maps out his plans for 2021 - The Ring
 

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To be fair, the WBC did fukk up a potential Loma Haney fight with the Franchise champ shyt.

Nonetheless, Haney did not do himself any favors by cruising to a decision against Gamboa. It was dominant, but it's a performance that is getting completely overshadowed by Teo beating Loma; Gervonta knocking out Santa Cruz; and Garcia stopping Campbell.

It's a hard spot to be in for a young fighter who is clearly talented.





I get the unification, best fighting the best talk and all that, but we have got to be realistic. Between all the promotional issues, network issues, and negotiation issues, the fights that Haney covets don't seem likely (or even highly demanded) at 135, which isn't a big deal considering he's already talked seriously about moving up to 140 anyways.

He should move up and get a hold on the junior welterweight division, which is where most of these fighters are going to end up anyways.

Go fight a Prograis, Ramirez, Postol, Zepeda, and other rated fighters. Get the names and experience that Haney needs at 22.

Agree with you, especially the bolded
 

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that's a wack ass excuse . since when does a belt holder have to bring "more to the table" to fight another belt holder :stopitslime:.

that's the type of logic that stopped AJ vs Wilder ,, bud vs spence ,, and canelo unifying the 160 division

If you knew boxing & how it worked you wouldn't be making that ridiculous comment :heh:
 

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that's a wack ass excuse . since when does a belt holder have to bring "more to the table" to fight another belt holder :stopitslime:.

that's the type of logic that stopped AJ vs Wilder ,, bud vs spence ,, and canelo unifying the 160 division
It's honestly a corny ass excuse. Imagine Loma being the bridge that excuse people from fighting other champs. You'd think Loma was Oscar Floyd tier or some shyt
 

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So about them Canelo PPV numbers lol
Not sure what type of numbers you're expecting. They just let it known it could be bought on ppv a few days before the fight. 99% of people had no idea they could even purchase it on ppv. Once canelo fights on a ppv only broadcast like a showtime or fox ppv then we can see what's what.
 

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guzman...guzman could have been an ATG..but he couldnt stop fukking eating :smh:
I feel Andre Dirrell is a poster boy for disappointment.

Back in the day I thought Dirrell was more talented than Ward. If only he had Ward's intangibles to go along with his talent. His younger brother under up having a better career despite not being nearly as talented as him
 
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