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Oh right, fill me in, he had a 10 or 11 fight deal with them initially?

So that's fulfilled? Or does the contract dispute with them and Golden Boy render it null and void?
Long story short canelo had problems with golden boy and dazn on what fights they could approve for him. He sued and won freeing him from both contracts. So now hes a free agent and can fight anywhere
 

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Heavyweight aside, 135-168 all have had recent chances to completely unify. 168 seems like a hot division all of a sudden...


Damn a 140.. And even now I can’t wait for Taylor/Ramirez .. but when’s the last time we had a true Undisputed,Unification Bout aside( if you don’t count Teo) :francis:
 
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Soooo is it all about the belts or nah??

you nikkas sound goofy :cape: for belts but then wanna cry about mandos


N y’all pick N choose when a trash Mando is acceptable or not... consistent in your inconsistency :sas2:
I really don't give a fukk about belts but if canelo wants to unify nothing we can do about it. Only problem is he gotta get this trash yildrim fight out of the way. As long as it's not on his may date I'm cool with it. Make that shyt for February then have either saunders or plant in may. Can't be mad at it. But if I had it my way it would be Charlo in May. Then worry about plant and saunders. But if Charlo was smart he would move up and challenge plant right off the bat. Don't see pbc turning that matchup down. There's nothing left for him at 160 anyway. If he moves up and beats plant he's got that canelo fight in the bag for September.
 

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the question is who is going to pay for canelo vs yildirim?
Pretty much any network would pay for a canelo fight. Fox puts on ppv's that barely crack 200k. ESPN puts on ppv's that barely crack 100k. Canelo could fight a random bum off the street and do 300k. These networks are gonna be doing whatever they can to get canelo on their platform.

But my guess is that it will be in dazn. Especially if they know saunders will be coming right after. Canelo is in the driver seat now. I could even see him doing the fight on regular cable somewhere. Actually that would be the smart move for his brand. Showcase fight on regular cable. Get the highlight reel ko then move on to the big fight for may on ppv somewhere.
 

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Reynoso saying they plan on making a mandatory defense within 90 days in Mexico (Yildrim WBC mandatory,) and then fight Saunders or Plant.

:stopitslime:

Canelo is a prizefighter. He got cajones.

But until he fights Benavidez, Plant or Andrade and gives them proper 10-12 weeks notice then he still ain't indisputable pound for pound for me.
 

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I really don't give a fukk about belts but if canelo wants to unify nothing we can do about it. Only problem is he gotta get this trash yildrim fight out of the way. As long as it's not on his may date I'm cool with it. Make that shyt for February then have either saunders or plant in may. Can't be mad at it. But if I had it my way it would be Charlo in May. Then worry about plant and saunders. But if Charlo was smart he would move up and challenge plant right off the bat. Don't see pbc turning that matchup down. There's nothing left for him at 160 anyway. If he moves up and beats plant he's got that canelo fight in the bag for September.

The fighter makes the belt not the other way around :manny:


Plant v Benavidez still a high profile fight even tho Benavidez has no belt

Fury N Joshua can drop all the belts in the Trash N it’d still be the top heavyweight fight

Ws over Senchenko or Troyanovski or Idongo... I can go on N on N on don’t mean shyt cuz they fukking suck..... “bu bu bu bu bu the belts matter”:camby:


The fighter Matters




I’m perfectly fine with Canelo goin after all the Belts N making that a priority since

A. He jus beat the ring Champ at 168 N unified

B. The Champs are decent there isn’t an Idongo or Ricky Burns or Random Slovakian that beat a Random Euro to get a Belt


Besides that if the nikka wants a victory lap in Mexico he can do that let alone it’s a Mando


We jus saw :flabbynsick::flabbynsick::flabbynsick: fight the #3 ranked IBF on a Friday afternoon For gods sake :dahell:
 

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I think / hope Canelo is goin use Dazn up N then bounce... so Yildrim N then BJS

then head on over to the PBC side makes more sense to me ...instead of back N forth back N forth
If he’s a free agent now who goes fight-to-fight the order practically doesn’t matter.
 

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:stopitslime:

Canelo is a prizefighter. He got cajones.

But until he fights Benavidez, Plant or Andrade and gives them proper 10-12 weeks notice then he still ain't indisputable pound for pound for me.

Nobody else can be P4P #1 atp though. Some of you guys just won’t give him credit until the brakes fall off. :heh:
Inoue comes in second place but Canelo distanced himself from the others imo.
 

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Nobody else can be P4P #1 atp though. Some of you guys just won’t give him credit until the brakes fall off. :heh:
Inoue comes in second place but Canelo distanced himself from the others imo.

Nah i feel what you saying. I'm not hating.

Reynoso know what he doing with those cherry picked, 4 week lead in times though. Let's be real.

If he fights Benavidez then we good, he legit Hearns, Hagler era and i 100% salute.

To say he isn't ducking them dudes (Benavidez, Andrade) is incorrect.
 

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Pretty much any network would pay for a canelo fight. Fox puts on ppv's that barely crack 200k. ESPN puts on ppv's that barely crack 100k. Canelo could fight a random bum off the street and do 300k. These networks are gonna be doing whatever they can to get canelo on the platform.

But my guess is that it will be in dazn. Especially if they know saunders will be coming right after. Canelo is in the driver seat now. I could even see him doing the fight on regular cable somewhere. Actually that would be the smart move for his brand. Showcase fight on regular cable. Get the highlight reel ko then move on to the big fight for may on ppv somewhere.

Yeah get the murderous KO for the casuals on deck first. I see what you saying.

Either that or he pushes for the UK market with Hearns or he gets full cojones and fights Benavidez for a Mexican market extravaganza. But i don't expect the latter. Reynoso plays percentages, but makes it look more like risks.
 

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Yeah get the murderous KO for the casuals on deck first. I see what you saying.

Either that or he pushes for the UK market with Hearns or he gets full cojones and fights Benavidez for a Mexican market extravaganza. But i don't expect the latter. Reynoso plays percentages, but makes it look more like risks.
If benavidez didn't get his belt stripped for being a fat fukk he would have the canelo fight in the bag already. But instead of trying to become a boxing great he'd rather stuff his fat ass with Big Macs. Canelo been saying he wants to unify 168 for like 2 years now. Benavidez has nobody to blame but himself.

And how you gonna shyt on canelo but ignore the fact that benavidez is blatantly ducking Caleb plant. David isn't even a champ anymore. He should be the one calling out plant not the other way around. He's got a golden opportunity to get a title back and secure that canelo fight for September but dude is shook as hell to fight a guy who slapped up his crippled brother. David simply don't love the game like that. Canelo beats the brakes off that flat footed lurch regardless. Stylistically Plant will be a much tougher fight for canelo.
 

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Heavyweight aside, 135-168 all have had recent chances to completely unify. 168 seems like a hot division all of a sudden...


Damn a 140.. And even now I can’t wait for Taylor/Ramirez .. but when’s the last time we had a true Undisputed,Unification Bout aside( if you don’t count Teo) :francis:
For men its Usyk...he legitimately pulled it off. Even pulled off an undisputed title defense. It's the reason why he is so damn near high on everyone p4p list.

Teofimo should be undisputed if lomachenko didnt do that stupid franchise shyt with the WBC belt cuz he didnt want to face Haney.

Now the next legit one should be Taylor vs Ramirez for all the 140 belts.
 

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If benavidez didn't get his belt stripped for being a fat fukk he would have the canelo fight in the bag already. But instead of trying to become a boxing great he'd rather stuff his fat ass with Big Macs. Canelo been saying he wants to unify 168 for like 2 years now. Benavidez has nobody to blame but himself.

And how you gonna shyt on canelo but ignore the fact that benavidez is blatantly ducking Caleb plant. David isn't even a champ anymore. He should be the one calling out plant not the other way around. He's got a golden opportunity to get a title back and secure that canelo fight for September but dude is shook as hell to fight a guy who slapped up his crippled brother. David simply don't love the game like that. Canelo beats the brakes off that flat footed lurch regardless. Stylistically Plant will be a much tougher fight for canelo.

Ehhh, you caping for fighters. I don't do that. I just objectively observe, do your thing.

Benavidez imo, missed weight because he pushes the limits of how far someone his size can boil down.

Canelo aka Reynoso at no point has ever indicated they'll ever get at Benavidez. Reynoso plays percentages. He doesn't want walk forward fighters. I don't blame them, last time they had a walk forward fighter it was both a draw and then a 50/50 win/loss depending who you talk to.

His crippled brother put on a show against Crawford i thought, why you mad? That fight was tight.

I don't buy that ducking shyt, Benavidez seems to want it with anyone as far as i can see.

Canelo gave Plant 4 weeks just post of his last fight, that's how Reynoso plays the game.

It is what it is.
 
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