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that too..the problem with the 80s heavyweights is they were talented as fukk but they had issues out the ass and it happens to be the era that mike ruled.so the fact that james buster douglas knocked out mike tyson makes ppl say what they say..believe me there were worse heavyweights that tyson could have lost to in that time but buster wasnt one of them
Knicksman20
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That version Douglas that night could've beaten a lot of all time great heavies
BOXINGGEMS
@MansaRhea On Instagram and Twitter
We're not talking about his demons or any of the extra things you mentioned. Whenever we talk about fighters from different eras fighting each other no one brings up drug problems or that other stuff. In usual hypotheticals we're going off prime & skills & in his prime he would beat these current crop of HW's way more times then they would beat him. You know why he lost to Douglas bro so you using that as an example didn't even make sense.
You really think a prime Mike wouldn't be able to close the gap in this era (like he's done with most of his opponents) on AJ, Wilder, Ortiz, & Fury?
Wow bro
Tyson could win a belt and be unified in this era...he could lose to the current crop as well. You believe he would beat those guys more times than not. I'm not convinced based on what he actually did against the best of his time. He wasn't a perfect fighter and could be beat and was beat repeatedly.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
As for tyson fury he an odd one. Against taller heavies he is tricky as hell. Against shorter ones he doesn't seem to do as good consistently as say wlad did
BOXINGGEMS
@MansaRhea On Instagram and Twitter
I never said Buster was a bum but he ain't above the current top tier HWs. The separation between today's best and the late 80s/early 90s top fighters ain't that big a gap. That's the point I was making. I understand the HWs underneath that top tier aren't as good or skilled as back then but the top guys now could and would compete.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
The G-Man, my personal fav of the 90's and the one guy I thought could give Roy that work. How he got Julian in that first fight was beautiful, the fient/fake jab causing Jackson to react then catching him with the right
. shyt was quick in real time. G-Man could box when needed. I wish breh would've kept Steward on board for the Benn fight. Damage probably was already done but I dont know maybe some things could have been salvaged.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Funny enough he did get the W vs roy jones in the amateurs. Delivered shots in a similar way too.....The G-Man, my personal fav of the 90's and the one guy I thought could give Roy that work. How he got Julian in that first fight was beautiful, the fient/fake jab causing Jackson to react then catching him with the right
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Someone needs to gif Mike dodging the flurries Roy let off at times with his head movement, i saw it/cats sleepin. Mike made sure he represented himself well, at 54.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Prime Mike gets both of those dudes out of there, Joshua is too stiff. Fury doesnt have the power to hurt Mike. He would cut the ring off and break him down. I dont even think Fury's jab is better than a Mitch Green, Tubbs, Holmes or Tucker
fury would be clinching and leaning his weight on mike constantly tire or wear him out...he did that when USS was lighting his ass up too much..if fury got on his bike and was using his footwork against mike it would look bad because of the absolute height and size advantage he has..fury is crafty enough defensively where i can see him going the distance with mike...fury has the head and upper body movement down which is a unique skillset for a man his size..but his offense is too "basic" for me to think he would hold off mike coming in unless he did tire him out first
Knicksman20
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Neither are these current crop of heavies & champs bro lol.
Some of them even lack fundamental skills. None of these guys would be used to not only the hand speed but more importantly the foot speed in which Tyson would be able to close the gap. AJ was scared to engage with Ruiz after getting clipped & you think he could hold off Tyson for 12? Wilder has terrible footwork, punching technique, & no inside game yet he can beat Mike more times than the opposite? Fury is probably the most skilled & might give Tyson the hardest test but he doesn't have the power bother him & I don't know if he could be locked in the whole fight. He loses focus like he did with Wilder & Mike more than likely doesn't let him off the hook who's one of the best finishers of all time
You're severely underrating Mike's ability to close the gap & get his shots off without taking much damage
i only wish USS did finish Fury with this shot
Knicksman20
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
My thing is no one and I mean no one closes in on people like tyson. His footwork is unique and his head movement you aint just jabbing his head off. Thats why I aint seeing people just box him up. You gotta use your weight and clinch. Or fight him on the inside like holyfield did.