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reservoirdogs

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He smoking drop...Spence would have run thru them guys like a hot knife thru butter.

All of the top PBC welters would have run through that weak comp.


What about him ducking Pac when they was in the same stable.

:comeon:
C'mon breh, they struggled with good but not elite competition from time to time.
Porter just recently brought to the brink of losing by the same Ugas who only beat Dulorme because of point deductions. He also looked :ld: against Granados.
Danny has had Mauricio Herrera problems and Peterson also pushed his shyt.
Thurman got hurt by Josesito Lopez then got beaten by Pac (ok latter is fair play as Pac is still srong)
Spence seems to be the best of the pack but to be fair he hasn't clearly separated himself from them either, going life and death with Porter.

Pyramid theories, of course, don't work and it's imaginable that some of these dudes brought their better or worse forms to different fights but it's good to show that the gulf in skills ain't that big between em
 

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How these guys tolerate Elie Seckbach is beyond me. His faux cool chatty-patty style is irritating even through camera too not to speak in live
A glorified male groupie posing as a boxing journalist.
he is like this animal
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and no, not the crocodile
 

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What about him ducking Pac when they was in the same stable.

yall really gon keep saying this until dummies start to believe it huh :francis:

Manny was the A side, high ranking members of Manny camp said he ain't want the smoke. Manny ran to PBC to eat off their overhyped welterweights and currently ducking the only good one over there (spence)
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
yall really gon keep saying this until dummies start to believe it huh :francis:

Manny was the A side, high ranking members of Manny camp said he ain't want the smoke. Manny ran to PBC to eat off their overhyped welterweights and currently ducking the only good one over there (spence)

This isn't what happened at all...
Pacquiao was open to fight Bud, but at the time Arum wasn't trying to pay Pac the bag anymore.. Not only that Bud was on some shyt where if the fight happens it has to be at 140.. Arum himself Crawford promoter said he killed the fight because he didn't want that Pacquiao to get hurt.. The truth he wasn't ready to risk his future star Crawford to take an L from Pac who is on his way out.. Now Arum talking about Manny an Bud are in serious negotiations.. This the same guy you saying claimed Pac aint want the smoke :francis: Arum was just mad cause Pac was kicking his ass to the curb like he did Roach

As far as ducking the only good PBC welterweight.. All them dudes over there at PBC is on the same level.. Pac ducking a nikka that went 12 with a lightweight and went 12 and almost lost to one of his sparring partners :mjlol:
 

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Pacquiao was open to fight Bud

post the receipts
again, freddie roach AND arum was plea copping saying Manny didn't want the fight. where is the evidence that Manny was demanding the fight?
back then ppl were actually saying the opposite of what yall saying now, that Arum was protecting his cash cow and helping him duck Bud :dead:. Now yall flipping it to Arum trying protect Bud (who don't even make a fraction of the money for Arum that Manny did) and who was actively calling Manny out back then :dahell:

Keep it 100, Manny at this stage only going fight who he want to fight and when he want to fight them. Thats why he ain't speak Bud then and he won't speak Spence name now
 

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post the receipts
again, freddie roach AND arum was plea copping saying Manny didn't want the fight. where is the evidence that Manny was demanding the fight?
back then ppl were actually saying the opposite of what yall saying now, that Arum was protecting his cash cow and helping him duck Bud :dead:. Now yall flipping it to Arum trying protect Bud (who don't even make a fraction of the money for Arum that Manny did) and who was actively calling Manny out back then :dahell:

Keep it 100, Manny at this stage only going fight who he want to fight and when he want to fight them. Thats why he ain't speak Bud then and he won't speak Spence name now


So why is Pac considering the fight now then. It don’t make sense. The excuses coming out wasn’t making sense at that time.

This what Freddie said in 2016


It's not the first time that Crawford's name is mentioned alongside Pacquiao's for a fight. Back in 2016, Pacquiao was looking for a foe after his loss to Floyd Mayweather and Crawford was one of the names that popped up. The Filipino fighter eventually settled for a third match with Timothy Bradley.

"We did say yes to the boy from Omaha," Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer back then, said referring to Crawford in an interview with On The Ropes Boxing Radio. "And I heard [Crawford] said yes too, but I think Bob might be protecting him a little bit right now because he might be his next ace in the hole, might be the next top fighter."

Arum admitted he killed that fight plenty of times but y’all want to blame it on Pac tho...Like Crawford is way more dangerous than Thurman. Resume wise Thurman>Crawford.
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
post the receipts
again, freddie roach AND arum was plea copping saying Manny didn't want the fight. where is the evidence that Manny was demanding the fight?
back then ppl were actually saying the opposite of what yall saying now, that Arum was protecting his cash cow and helping him duck Bud :dead:. Now yall flipping it to Arum trying protect Bud (who don't even make a fraction of the money for Arum that Manny did) and who was actively calling Manny out back then :dahell:

Keep it 100, Manny at this stage only going fight who he want to fight and when he want to fight them. Thats why he ain't speak Bud then and he won't speak Spence name now
Which receipts do you want..

Where Bud says if he fights Pac it has to be at 140:mjlol: giving pac ultimatums

Where Bob Arum is saying the fight didn't happen cause of the weight Bud wanted to fight at an Pac didn't wanna go down

Where Bob Arum is saying Pac wants too much money?? Even though according to Roach Pac was asking for what was in his contract

Where Bob Arum said RECENTLY that HE killed the fight himself

:hhh: or you want all of them.. you asking a lot for something that a simple Google search would solve
 

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So why is Pac considering the fight now then. It don’t make sense. .

Pac ain't considering shyt, cmon now. That's a negotiation ploy for the fight against mikey :unimpressed:
If manny fight Bud next (or spence) I will be shocked

Which receipts do you want..

I want the receipts of Manny demanding the fight, already said that above

Manny scared to death to say certain ppl name. Crawford explicitly said Manny didn't fight him when he had multiple opportunities to fight him on first take. The idea that a black man (in boxing) going risk passing on an opportunity of a lifetime to fight Manny is ludicrous
 
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