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[Big Boss]

 

[reservoirdogs]

The difference between the fights is Rigo didn't really want the Loma fight iirc, Mikey called out Spence, and compare how Spence fought Mikey compared to everyone else. Loma actually bullied Rigo kinda, the way Spence fought Mikey I wish he would have that defensive mindedness in every fight. It's crazy against the Kell Brook's and Shawn Porter's he leaves himself open to get hit, yet against a lightweight he never even let him have a chance it was strange to me that the one who should of been the least threat he fought with the safest gameplan. It was ass backwards to me.

nah Rigo was aggressively pushing for that fight for a time when he got it. Loma fought like Loma... that's it but Rigo was disappointing that night regardless the size difference. Spence could box like that against Mikey cause Mikey couldn't do anything about it, Porter and Brook are big 147ers, especially Brook. Brook had a classy jab of his own and a pain in the ass style and Porter had the quick feet and dynamism to cut the distance. Mikey had nothing... he also has a good jab but turns out it just wasn't enough against a legit top guy at 147.

 

[reservoirdogs]

He'd still beat me and you the fukk up but that doesn't mean he should return against actual pro boxers

 

[R=G]

The difference between the fights is Rigo didn't really want the Loma fight iirc, Mikey called out Spence, and compare how Spence fought Mikey compared to everyone else. Loma actually bullied Rigo kinda, the way Spence fought Mikey I wish he would have that defensive mindedness in every fight. It's crazy against the Kell Brook's and Shawn Porter's he leaves himself open to get hit, yet against a lightweight he never even let him have a chance it was strange to me that the one who should of been the least threat he fought with the safest gameplan. It was ass backwards to me.

Thats not it. You don't get it. They building it that Mikey was a smarter technical fighter so Spence humiliated him and those that sided with that line of thinking.

Spence knew Porter would fight hard but he wasn't worried about it because he thought Ugas pushed Porter to the brink and he dont rank them in his league.

 

[desjardins]

, cause just because it isn't apparent sometimes size still plays a part.

Can you elaborate on this? Obviously size plays a part in literally every boxing match, that's why there are weight divisions and height and reach are displayed
There was a clear size difference between Rigo and Loma but I think skill trumped that, especially since Loma didn't rely on his size to win
for reference Donaire is taller and longer reach than Loma and got dominated by Rigo. Rigo potshot counter punch style just wasn't enough for a good boxer like Loma who used angles constantly and flustered Rigo causing him to quit

Loma actually bullied Rigo kinda,

Only bullying was that Loma was strong enough to get out of Rigo holding on for dear life after round two.....cause he was getting his head boxed off in the middle of the ring
Loma used movement constantly(not physicality) and wanted to box in the middle of the ring cause he was winning there so easily. He barely even leaned on Rigo when Rigo did that bended down low defense he uses cause it was more effective to just uppercut him when he did that

 

[Black_Jesus]

Can you elaborate on this? Obviously size plays a part in literally every boxing match, that's why there are weight divisions and height and reach are displayed
There was a clear size difference between Rigo and Loma but I think skill trumped that, especially since Loma didn't rely on his size to win
for reference Donaire is taller and longer reach than Loma and got dominated by Rigo. Rigo potshot counter punch style just wasn't enough for a good boxer like Loma who used angles constantly and flustered Rigo causing him to quit





Only bullying was that Loma was strong enough to get out of Rigo holding on for dear life after round two.....cause he was getting his head boxed off in the middle of the ring
Loma used movement constantly(not physicality) and wanted to box in the middle of the ring cause he was winning there so easily. He barely even leaned on Rigo when Rigo did that bended down low defense he uses cause it was more effective to just uppercut him when he did that

Skill or not.. Size ALWAYS plays a factor.. That’s why Loma refused to give up a single pound to fight Rigo throughout the buildup of them possibly facing each other

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

nah Rigo was aggressively pushing for that fight for a time when he got it. Loma fought like Loma... that's it but Rigo was disappointing that night regardless the size difference. Spence could box like that against Mikey cause Mikey couldn't do anything about it, Porter and Brook are big 147ers, especially Brook. Brook had a classy jab of his own and a pain in the ass style and Porter had the quick feet and dynamism to cut the distance. Mikey had nothing... he also has a good jab but turns out it just wasn't enough against a legit top guy at 147.

Mikey tried everything, it was a pitiful performance. And honestly Brook is a good fighter, but I never liked his style. The man clinches too much for my liking, to have the boxing ability he does, which is why I think whether he fought GGG before Spence or not the Spence fight was always gonna turn out like that. I remember watching the Brook-Porter fight wondering if the ref was ever gonna deduct points for Brook constantly putting Porter in a clinch but he didn't. Low key Brook tried the exact same tactic on Spence, but Spence adjusted and started fighting behind his step back jab(which he should of ate Porter up with all night), and the rest is history.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Can you elaborate on this? Obviously size plays a part in literally every boxing match, that's why there are weight divisions and height and reach are displayed
There was a clear size difference between Rigo and Loma but I think skill trumped that, especially since Loma didn't rely on his size to win
for reference Donaire is taller and longer reach than Loma and got dominated by Rigo. Rigo potshot counter punch style just wasn't enough for a good boxer like Loma who used angles constantly and flustered Rigo causing him to quit





Only bullying was that Loma was strong enough to get out of Rigo holding on for dear life after round two.....cause he was getting his head boxed off in the middle of the ring
Loma used movement constantly(not physicality) and wanted to box in the middle of the ring cause he was winning there so easily. He barely even leaned on Rigo when Rigo did that bended down low defense he uses cause it was more effective to just uppercut him when he did that

Yeah Loma used movement, but Loma clearly was the bigger man with more power. Rigo quit because A. Loma is a skilled fighter and(more importantly) B. Them punches fukking hurt.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Thats not it. You don't get it. They building it that Mikey was a smarter technical fighter so Spence humiliated him and those that sided with that line of thinking.

Spence knew Porter would fight hard but he wasn't worried about it because he thought Ugas pushed Porter to the brink and he dont rank them in his league.

Bro I been one of the main people saying Spence is a much better boxer than he is given credit for, anyone with eyes can see that man can box he just isn't flashy and doesn't waste energy with unnecessary movements.

I watched him make Porter fight a dog fight not a boxing match. People conveniently forget Porter came out trying to fight the fight we thought, especially after the Mikey fight, Spence would fight. Porter was dancing on his toes trying to give his best Pacquiao impersonation meanwhile Spence kept walking him down and pushing him back. Round 3 was when Porter realized Spence was never gonna stand there and box him so Porter stood his ground and they got into that dog fight. People really act like Porter made Spence fight like Spence didn't come down and walk him down and force him to stand and fight.

I'm saying that shyt was a STUPID gameplan. I get what he is trying to do, I follow Errol Spence he did say leading up to that fight that he wasn't gonna take a single step backwards as much as nikkas like to act like he didn't, but bro that shyt is dumb. He could of easily fought Porter at range and used his superior Speed, reach, and ring IQ and boxed Porter to a 12 round decision. nikka coming out here fighting wars just to prove a point to people shyt is ridiculous to me. I appreciate he did because Spence-Porter was , I still don't see how Inoue-Donaire won fight of the year over that, and I'm a Monster fan.

 

[patscorpio]

Yikes....

 

[patscorpio]

I appreciate he did because Spence-Porter was , I still don't see how Inoue-Donaire won fight of the year over that, and I'm a Monster fan.

because monster vs donaire was straight violence..super fade ...but different strokes for different folks i guess....2019 had a lot of good choices that were flat out wars for FOTY

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

because monster vs donaire was straight violence..super fade ...but different strokes for different folks i guess....2019 had a lot of good choices that were flat out wars for FOTY

Spence-Porter wasn't? Don't get me wrong Monster-Donaire was a hell of a fade but c'mon now Spence-Porter was straight violence bruh, and they threw more punches. shyt was a good old fashioned junkyard brawl.

 

[patscorpio]

Spence-Porter wasn't? Don't get me wrong Monster-Donaire was a hell of a fade but c'mon now Spence-Porter was straight violence bruh, and they threw more punches. shyt was a good old fashioned junkyard brawl.

both fights had similarities

they were high level unifications in their divisions
they had a prime fighter vs old fighter dynamic
the winners were severely tested where it wasnt really expected to be
they were both fades

but like i said...different strokes for different folks,..certain fights hit ppl differently lol

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

both fights had similarities

they were high level unifications in their divisions
they had a prime fighter vs old fighter dynamic
the winners were severely tested where it wasnt really expected to be
they were both fades

but like i said...different strokes for different folks,..certain fights hit ppl differently lol

Who was old in the Spence Porter fight? Porter aint that much older than Spence bro. Donaire is from an entirely different generation from Inoue.

 

[Recca Gatsby]