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Chisora is good, he's a better win than nearly all of Wilder's opponents, the only arguable 1 is Ortiz. He only got knocked out clean once that I remember and ironically that was against Dillian Whyte in the 2nd fight, with Haye the ref stopped it and with Fury the 2nd fight his corner stopped it. Chisora for sure has fought higher level opponents than Wilder also, fought Vitali, Haye, Fury, Whyte, 3 of them which Wilder avoided, the other 1 he cherrypicked and just got battered by so it's hard to gage. He beat Takam, Price, and a bunch of opponents Wilder beat, sometimes in better fashion, he knocked Szpilka out way quicker than Wilder did, knocked out Malik Scott too, a few of his decisions vs him were very controversial too. I think you said previously yourself that you thought he won the first fight vs Dillian Whyte, if that's the case he should have a better win on his record than Wilder does in his whole career then. He's proven he can at least compete at top level, even if he may not be the very elite, he's the level just below, B level, most of Wilder's opponents are way lower than that, Ortiz may be B level too but extremely unproven.
All of this is bullshyt, Chisora isn’t good he lost to Agit Kabayel who was out of shape and didn’t care about the sport, lost to Helinus, Breazale would knock out Chisora and only reason Vitali didn’t is because he fukked his right up and that’s a fight that should have been stopped anyway. Anytime he’s stepped up to B level comp he’s lost. Against A level comp he does nothing minus Whyte he put him to sleep.
 

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Chisora is good, he's a better win than nearly all of Wilder's opponents, the only arguable 1 is Ortiz. He only got knocked out clean once that I remember and ironically that was against Dillian Whyte in the 2nd fight, with Haye the ref stopped it and with Fury the 2nd fight his corner stopped it. Chisora for sure has fought higher level opponents than Wilder also, fought Vitali, Haye, Fury, Whyte, 3 of them which Wilder avoided, the other 1 he cherrypicked and just got battered by so it's hard to gage. He beat Takam, Price, and a bunch of opponents Wilder beat, sometimes in better fashion, he knocked Szpilka out way quicker than Wilder did, knocked out Malik Scott too, a few of his decisions vs him were very controversial too. I think you said previously yourself that you thought he won the first fight vs Dillian Whyte, if that's the case he should have a better win on his record than Wilder does in his whole career then. He's proven he can at least compete at top level, even if he may not be the very elite, he's the level just below, B level, most of Wilder's opponents are way lower than that, Ortiz may be B level too but extremely unproven.

Chisora fukking sucks lol. Charles Martin beats him easily. Same with Breazeale
 

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Chief Oluwafemi certainly didnt act like this when he unexpectedly lost his belts...he humbled himself, got back to eating his fufu with egusi and jollof, and had to let ppl know he wasnt no non boxing ass nikka or one trick pony. I really hope they can get the undisputed fight done once all these mandatories are outta the way


im getting tired of you AJ protectors.

First of all, his last opponent thought so little of him, that he didn’t even train for the fight! That’s the true sign of what an opponent thinks about you.

LDBC spoke to Ruiz off the record

After the fight, “off the record, why ain’t you train?” Ruiz was like “it was too easy the first time. You know that one girl you meet at the party, and then you smash and nut inside of her within 10 mins of meeting? That’s what my experience was fighting AJ.”

Ruiz was going around town, on a heavy diet of tacos and donuts, hanging with a brand new entourage that dumped him after the 2nd fight. He had no respect for your champion
 

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im getting tired of you AJ protectors.

First of all, his last opponent thought so little of him, that he didn’t even train for the fight! That’s the true sign of what an opponent thinks about you.

LDBC spoke to Ruiz off the record

After the fight, “off the record, why ain’t you train?” Ruiz was like “it was too easy the first time. You know that one girl you meet at the party, and then you smash and nut inside of her within 10 mins of meeting? That’s what my experience was fighting AJ.”

Ruiz was going around town, on a heavy diet of tacos and donuts, hanging with a brand new entourage that dumped him after the 2nd fight. He had no respect for your champion

:dead:..id rep you but i got told to slow down on them
 

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Chisora fukking sucks lol. Charles Martin beats him easily. Same with Breazeale

Absolutely incorrect, but these kind of comments show the lack of boxing knowledge that makes many of the posts on here all make sense. Prime Chisora would destroy and knockout both of those, he gave Vitali a tough fight let alone those.
 

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Absolutely incorrect, but these kind of comments show the lack of boxing knowledge that makes many of the posts on here all make sense. Prime Chisora would destroy and knockout both of those, he gave Vitali a tough fight let alone those.

Chisora in his prime beat who??? This that UK dikk riding is ridiculous. Now Chisora is some big player in the HW division....in 2019??? Stop the dumb shyt
 

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All of this is bullshyt, Chisora isn’t good he lost to Agit Kabayel who was out of shape and didn’t care about the sport, lost to Helinus, Breazale would knock out Chisora and only reason Vitali didn’t is because he fukked his right up and that’s a fight that should have been stopped anyway. Anytime he’s stepped up to B level comp he’s lost. Against A level comp he does nothing minus Whyte he put him to sleep.

As usual you don't know what you're talking about, he is good, he isn't an elite heavyweight like a Fury but he's a good level. Has fought way higher level competition than Ortiz has. There's nothing Ortiz has done in his career that automatically puts him above Chisora. Anyway the point was about Whyte, Whyte beat Parker too, another guy who has a better win on his record with Andy Ruiz Jr than Wilder does.
 

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Chisora in his prime beat who??? This that UK dikk riding is ridiculous. Now Chisora is some big player in the HW division....in 2019??? Stop the dumb shyt

No-one said he's a big player or even elite, but he easily beats the 2 guys you named and he's fought at a way higher level than someone like Ortiz, he's fought way higher level than Wilder has too, Chisora is way braver than Wilder, even if he lost he still got in the ring with Vitali, Haye, Whyte and others. Wilder desperately avoided such fighters.
 

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No-one said he's a big player or even elite, but he easily beats the 2 guys you named and he's fought at a way higher level than someone like Ortiz, he's fought way higher level than Wilder has too, Chisora is way braver than Wilder, even if he lost he still got in the ring with Vitali, Haye, Whyte and others. Wilder desperately avoided such fighters.

Chisora most notable achievement is getting slumped by Whyte and nobody respects or give a fukk about him which why he's being used as cannon fodder for Usyk.

Don't ever mention that fat fukk in the same sentence with a former world champ like Charles Martin.
 

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He shoulda just given a Tevin Farmer response



Got damn, that was another prediction i had spot on. :ohlawd:

Farmer and Wilder, two nikkas with weak comp that turned down life changing money to lose to someone else for less. :hhh:

but yeah, Farmer definitely handled his L with more dignity. You can't be mad at that at all. No excuses, tool up and run it back.
 

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Chisora most notable achievement is getting slumped by Whyte and nobody respects or give a fukk about him which why he's beunf used as cannon fodder for Usyk.

Don't ever mention that fat fukk in the same sentence with a former world champ like Charles Martin

Lol, you sound like you're trolling. At least Chisora had the balls to go in with the likes of Vitali, Whyte, Haye unlike Wilder, signed for the Parker fight too and Parker pulled out cause of the spider bite and has signed to fight Usyk (I think Usyk wins that fight), but the point is he isn't a cherry picking fighter like Wilder or scared, he's a brave fighter even when he comes up short, so I respect that more than somebody who ducks and avoids opponents. You also sound triggered with the whole U.K shyt you said, doesn't make sense to me, the 3 Ring top fighters now are Fury, AJ and Whyte so the top 3 are U.K based so trying to say it's dikkriding doesn't make sense. Who cares? If they were from U.S or wherever else it would make no difference, I wouldn't care, but you seem personally upset and hurt. Some good upcoming prospects like Dubois around too, Joyce would beat Martin and Breazeale too. It's a mix, and despite what many think there actually are some good U.S heavyweight prospects coming up too, they will show it in due course, these things happen in cycles by nature. U.S will be back on top 1 day, now U.K guys are top in the heavyweight division but it will keep moving in cycles. At least the division is good and entertaining.
 
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