good to see BROTHER NAZEEM still up and active.
him and Nard still cool?
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good to see BROTHER NAZEEM still up and active.
him and Nard still cool?
A few reasons, 1 reason I think they are doing it is because Frank Warren is confident Daniel Dubois will win. Even though both are signed with him Daniel Dubois is like his golden goose in Frank’s mind I believe. I think he’s feeding Joyce to him, in the WBO Daniel Dubois is number 3 in the rankings, which is ridiculous and unfair at this point, but that’s another story, Joyce is ranked in the top 15 there too so I wonder if a win may end up putting him 2nd, it’s possible and by that time the actual shot comes around Usyk will either be a champion or have a defeat probably so he’d be in line for the mandatory title shot potentially. I think that’s possibly a key reason.
Money is another reason, in U.K it’s quite a big fight, they’ve been building both up, Dubois biggest fight was Gorman, Joyce is a bigger star than Gorman and people in boxing know Joyce because he was quite a successful amateur and he’s done pretty well as a pro so far too. Beaten better opponents as a pro than Dubois has so far. Joyce doesn’t really need to take this fight in my opinion but it is a big opportunity, if he wins he will rise up the WBO rankings significantly. That and money are the reasons he’d take the fight. As was mentioned he’s not getting younger. His team may see that as a quick route to challenge for a world title eventually against an inexperienced foe, I think they are gambling on Dubois’ inexperience and also the fact he hasn’t been truly tested. We know for sure he has genuine power but how is his chin? How is his stamina? Can he win on points against a good boxer or is he too reliant on the power? All these questions aren’t fully answered yet so I think that’s Joyce’s teams perspective, calculated risk.
Also Dubois needs an opponent, they tried to fight Dave Allen after he had mental health issues and health issues which I felt was embarrassing on their part. It was trying to exploit somebody vulnerable for their own gain, was put a stop to by Dave’s advisors though, so he doesn’t really have credible opponents, last opponent was a mismatch, this fight he can probably gain something from against a ranked fighter, also Dubois is a power puncher and Joyce has been knocked out before in the amateurs, they probably feel he will he again.
Really good fight in my opinion, I wish more of these fights would get made, but too many are playing it cautious and playing a political game to try and get a position by padding their records. 2 guys fighting in what on paper isn’t certain is much more entertaining to me. It reminds me a bit of when AJ fought Whyte, 2 good prospects thrown in together.
If Hrgovic vs Bakole happens that’s another nice fight, Hrgovic is the favourite but at least it’s a step up for Hrgovic. The closer the fights are on paper the more compelling it can be as a viewer, I hope Billy Joe Saunders vs Callum Smith happens too. If Andy Ruiz takes the Dillian Whyte offer I really like the way the year is shaping up, I already do, I think this is gonna be a good 1. Fury vs Wilder result is gonna reverberate around the world and division.
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Bigblackted4
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That’s the point. None of these guys are going to get title shots until the fight each other. They have to do something to break through, also have to test yourself before going in the fire with a champ. Think AJ vs Whyte
Bigblackted4
Superstar
Stiverne And Jennings are better than Allen don’t do that or even Kildaze(Ajagba last opp) hell are y’all sure Chisora would beat Jennings because I’m not.Damn so why haven’t he fought any eliminators or middle ground names yet. I’m like damn these guys ain’t even made it to the chisoras and Dave Allen’s of the world yet.
But damn I thought Joyce was younger that that
why would porter or kool keith want to face him? they've already beaten the shyt outta him and danny has no real status or title to entice them
Thurman/Garcia was terrible. Porter/Garcia was just okay.
Here’s a good question. Is Garcia only entertaining if he’s significantly better then his opponent (squash match)? I’ll have to think about that.
Regardless, there’s other fights for Danny. I’d rather see fresh fights then rematches.
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
Dope breakdown
since they cross the pound I admittedly don’t pay too much attention.I will be watching this scrap tho.
malbaker86
Gators
Keith ran for his life N wasat getting the decision...then took a 2 year hiatus cuz Swift punched his arm too hard
krackdagawd
Inspire.
nikkas gonna get at me for this but sparring mma brehs>>>boxing. Leg kicks aside sparring them is usually touch sparring which ive always loved i feel you can work on technical things better w touch sparring than going hard imo.
Especially knowing all the shyt we do now about concussions
my god i did so much dumb shyt when i was younger hard sparring dudes w 20+lbs on me sparring a few days after getting your bell rung driving home after a concussion .
Now that my son grapples and does MT i would NEVER have him in a situation where they are doing hard sparring or throws if its grappling. Actual matches are different but yeah you shouldnt be getting fukked up in practice.
Idk if im getting soft w age but man we did some dumb shyt in the 90s and 00s
Especially knowing all the shyt we do now about concussions
my god i did so much dumb shyt when i was younger hard sparring dudes w 20+lbs on me sparring a few days after getting your bell rung driving home after a concussion .Now that my son grapples and does MT i would NEVER have him in a situation where they are doing hard sparring or throws if its grappling. Actual matches are different but yeah you shouldnt be getting fukked up in practice.
Idk if im getting soft w age but man we did some dumb shyt in the 90s and 00s
I don't know what Swift was thinking trying to counter that Terry Bogard ass punch from that distance with a left hook.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
man threw those Caveman haymakers like a madman
Dallas' 4 Eva
Superstar
I don't know what Swift was thinking trying to counter that Terry Bogard ass punch from that distance with a left hook.
Keith aint have any respect for Danny's speed throwing that wild ass punch.
Especially knowing all the shyt we do now about concussions
sparring wars..shyt happens..shyt i was sparring with a pinched nerve in my neck for a min..thats why i had to cut all regular sparring out once i transitioned completely into corporate world...i cant have it affect the shyt i do for a living..i can count on my hands how many times ive sparred since the summer of 2007
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Yep. Sparring wars should be few and far betweennikkas gonna get at me for this but sparring mma brehs>>>boxing. Leg kicks aside sparring them is usually touch sparring which ive always loved i feel you can work on technical things better w touch sparring than going hard imo.
Especially knowing all the shyt we do now about concussions
Now that my son grapples and does MT i would NEVER have him in a situation where they are doing hard sparring or throws if its grappling. Actual matches are different but yeah you shouldnt be getting fukked up in practice.
Idk if im getting soft w age but man we did some dumb shyt in the 90s and 00s