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[The Ruler 09]

He seems absolutely desperate to do any and everything he can to duck AJ, it's a shame, but it is what it is now, AJ fight may not happen till 2021 or 2022 now if that, and it's at a risk of never happening if 1 of them loses, Fury is obviously a threat as he should have won before, and AJ has a threat if he fights Usyk in that time, which he may have to as a mandatory.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Really, so Wilder vs Fury happening early 2020? As expected but damn, was hoping for the AJ vs Wilder fight first. The problem with Wilder vs Fury is the loser is going to lose some of their juice, so 1 of their fights vs AJ less valuable even though both still would be big, especially Fury vs AJ but if Wilder loses (again in most's mind) then that could kill the AJ fight cause he'd lose the belts and the offer would go down HUGELY. Also there will almost certainly be a rematch clause, probably a 2 way 1 again regardless of the result, in that case the AJ fight may be delayed even further, it seems like Wilder is doing any and everything possible to duck the AJ fight, seems quite desperate, why would you not try to be undisputed first? It would just make the Fury fight even bigger. But regardless Wilder vs Fury should do big numbers, they should do 500 thousand or more next time, last fight was huge and most will want to watch it again, that's a fight I'll purchase, no interest in Wilder vs Ortiz on PPV though and certainly not Wilder vs Kownacki, but vs Fury there's interest to see what happens for sure.

Not if it’s a great fight, if it’s a great fight they gain even more steam and that’s going to fukk AJ over unless he Knocks out Whyte and Ortiz after Wilder fights him

 

[acbjr22]

Not if it’s a great fight, if it’s a great fight they gain even more steam and that’s going to fukk AJ over unless he Knocks out Whyte and Ortiz after Wilder fights him

They are only fukking themselves. AJ has 3 of the belts so one of them has to see him eventually and the fight with AJ is more valuable than them fighting each other so one of them is going to lose out on a bunch of money. I hope it's Wilder cuz he a bytch. Plus AJ is younger so time is on his side

 

[The Ruler 09]

Not if it’s a great fight, if it’s a great fight they gain even more steam and that’s going to fukk AJ over unless he Knocks out Whyte and Ortiz after Wilder fights him

If WIlder loses he fukks himself completely, the offer will go down DRAMATICALLY, infact there may not even be an offer cause he won't have the belt so they won't even have a huge incentive to fight him, even though it would be a big fight, but if he loses the fight most likely won't happen for a significant period after, Wilder would have lost that big offer and he'd have to accept a fraction to get an AJ fight to redeem himself at some point, he won't be offered 60/40 then I don't think, think it would go down a lot, maybe to 20 percent. And they may not accept that after being offered 40 and the 120mil deal.

If Fury loses, I guess the AJ fight is still big, especially in the U.K because of their long time rivalry and how huge the build up would be. It would still be massive, but Tyson then would have to accept less than what he was offered probably too, which means that fight may not happen either if he doesn't.

The winner ends up elevating themself, whoever wins would then get 50/50 I think but the loser takes a huge loss, especially if Wilder loses, because he doesn't have the commercial value Fury would and he'd lose the belt, it would be almost pointless fighting Wilder then other than being quite entertaining, but without the belt the fight probably would be dead, cause their main aim would be to fight Fury if he had the belt.

 

[Bigblackted4]

They are only fukking themselves. AJ has 3 of the belts so one of them has to see him eventually and the fight with AJ is more valuable than them fighting each other so one of them is going to lose out on a bunch of money. I hope it's Wilder cuz he a bytch. Plus AJ is younger so time is on his side

He’s more valuable right now but now who is Joshua going to fight until The end of next year to keep that popularity

 

[Bigblackted4]

If WIlder loses he fukks himself completely, the offer will go down DRAMATICALLY, infact there may not even be an offer cause he won't have the belt so they won't even have a huge incentive to fight him, even though it would be a big fight, but if he loses the fight most likely won't happen for a significant period after, Wilder would have lost that big offer and he'd have to accept a fraction to get an AJ fight to redeem himself at some point, he won't be offered 60/40 then I don't think, think it would go down a lot, maybe to 20 percent. And they may not accept that after being offered 40 and the 120mil deal.

If Fury loses, I guess the AJ fight is still big, especially in the U.K because of their long time rivalry and how huge the build up would be. It would still be massive, but Tyson then would have to accept less than what he was offered probably too, which means that fight may not happen either if he doesn't.

The winner ends up elevating themself, whoever wins would then get 50/50 I think but the loser takes a huge loss, especially if Wilder loses, because he doesn't have the commercial value Fury would and he'd lose the belt, it would be almost pointless fighting Wilder then other than being quite entertaining, but without the belt the fight probably would be dead, cause their main aim would be to fight Fury if he had the belt.

Wilder would still be the key to the American market, AJ or Fury can’t get as popular over here as Wilder is loss or not. If wilder loses to Fury and then KOs somebody it will still be great interest in Wilder vs AJ ala Manny getting knocked out cold and people still wanting to see him fight Floyd.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Wilder would still be the key to the American market, AJ or Fury can’t get as popular over here as Wilder is loss or not. If wilder loses to Fury and then KOs somebody it will still be great interest in Wilder vs AJ ala Manny getting knocked out cold and people still wanting to see him fight Floyd.

I don't know where that notion comes from. Wilder for most of his career hasn't been that popular at all. Even now his last fight only sold 6000 tickets and did under a million viewers on non PPV. Even in his biggest fight thus far against another big name in Fury they only sold 325 thousand PPV's max (I heard it was lower though). AJ has already outsold Wilder's last gate significantly in his first fight on U.S soil, over 1900 tickets sold, more people worldwide should watch the fight also. The revenue will also be a HUGE amount more due to the prices of the tickets. So AJ in his first fight is already outperfoming Wilder who's been in the U.S his whole career, also AJ will fight in U.S again, there's other U.S heavyweights that can build themselves up that AJ can fight there if Wilder won't accept the offers. Some good ones too, it all depends on their progression. AJ is a superstar, people really love him, he has quite a diverse fanbase, he has the support system with his team behind him too, he could be a huge superstar in U.S, he isn't quite there yet because he hasn't touched that market yet, but that's what this event tomorrow is about, to start that process. If Wilder loses his star fades, he won't have that aura anymore or be able to talk shyt. It's true he would still be a big star, but who will Wilder be fighting if he loses to Fury? And who is gonna pay for it? He won't have a belt anymore, I don't think people are gonna support him fighting bums anymore, because he's on a higher level than those bums clearly, he'd be desperate for the AJ fight if he loses but then it will ALL be on AJ's teams terms, he won't have any bargaining power whatsoever, the belt is what gives him the power in the negotiations, they want that belt bad, if he doesn't have it they could easily let Wilder do his thing, and they could do theirs which is significantly bigger historically than what Wilder does. He may accept a low flat fee out of pure desperation and just the shot of knocking AJ out (which is possible) but should he do that he could risk losing like 80 million or some shyt. The offer would be a fraction of what it's worth now, for that reason I hope Wilder wins, because I want to see the AJ vs Wilder fight untainted, such a big fight potentially.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I don't know where that notion comes from. Wilder for most of his career hasn't been that popular at all. Even now his last fight only sold 6000 tickets and did under a million viewers on non PPV. Even in his biggest fight thus far against another big name in Fury they only sold 325 thousand PPV's max (I heard it was lower though). AJ has already outsold Wilder's last gate significantly in his first fight on U.S soil, over 1900 tickets sold, more people worldwide should watch the fight also. The revenue will also be a HUGE amount more due to the prices of the tickets. So AJ in his first fight is already outperfoming Wilder who's been in the U.S his whole career, also AJ will fight in U.S again, there's other U.S heavyweights that can build themselves up that AJ can fight there if Wilder won't accept the offers. Some good ones too, it all depends on their progression. AJ is a superstar, people really love him, he has quite a diverse fanbase, he has the support system with his team behind him too, he could be a huge superstar in U.S, he isn't quite there yet because he hasn't touched that market yet, but that's what this event tomorrow is about, to start that process. If Wilder loses his star fades, he won't have that aura anymore or be able to talk shyt. It's true he would still be a big star, but who will Wilder be fighting if he loses to Fury? And who is gonna pay for it? He won't have a belt anymore, I don't think people are gonna support him fighting bums anymore, because he's on a higher level than those bums clearly, he'd be desperate for the AJ fight if he loses but then it will ALL be on AJ's teams terms, he won't have any bargaining power whatsoever, the belt is what gives him the power in the negotiations, they want that belt bad, if he doesn't have it they could easily let Wilder do his thing, and they could do theirs which is significantly bigger historically than what Wilder does. He may accept a low flat fee out of pure desperation and just the shot of knocking AJ out (which is possible) but should he do that he could risk losing like 80 million or some shyt. The offer would be a fraction of what it's worth now, for that reason I hope Wilder wins, because I want to see the AJ vs Wilder fight untainted, such a big fight potentially.

you are clearly a lying homosexual..
Prove Wilder Brazeale only sold 6k tickets?? Or do you just quote proven liar Eddie Hearn.. Who continues to lie on Wilder but stupid motherfukkas still wonder why Wilder put them fags on ignore

 

[The Ruler 09]

you are clearly a lying homosexual..
Prove Wilder Brazeale only sold 6k tickets?? Or do you just quote proven liar Eddie Hearn.. Who continues to lie on Wilder but stupid motherfukkas still wonder why Wilder put them fags on ignore

I see you are still in emotional trauma. There's been numerous reports of him selling 6000 other than what Eddie said. I also personally spoke to somebody who worked the event who told me, so that aligns with the reports. I myself was shocked, I was astounded it could be that low, I thought Wilder had raised his profile enough where he would sell more than that, it's disappointing, would have been better for him and for boxing if he sold out. They didn't even open the top tier. Even if he sold 13000 (which he didn't) then that's still terrible, imagine not being able to sell over 13000 tickets, he didn't even sell out a venue without a large capacity in his own country, absolutely terrible, AJ is set to sell out MSG with over 19000 tickets sold and has sold out 90 thousand before, commercially Wilder is a bum compared to AJ, it's extremely embarrassing. He should grow if he beats Ortiz and Fury though, hopefully that's the case as would just make the fight bigger, but as of now he's not even on that level.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Wilder restoring the feeling. The Ali of the millennium

 

[Bigblackted4]

So Joshua next two fights are going to be Whyte then Parker/Uysk winner

 

[The Ruler 09]

So Joshua next two fights are going to be Whyte then Parker/Uysk winner

They may be Pulev and Usyk. Those 2 could both be his mandatory defences.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I doubt Whyte will want to fight AJ yet as if he beats Rivas he's supposed to become to mandatory for the WBC belt now, so he should either fight Wilder or Fury.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I see you are still in emotional trauma. There's been numerous reports of him selling 6000 other than what Eddie said. I also personally spoke to somebody who worked the event who told me, so that aligns with the reports. I myself was shocked, I was astounded it could be that low, I thought Wilder had raised his profile enough where he would sell more than that, it's disappointing, would have been better for him and for boxing if he sold out. They didn't even open the top tier. Even if he sold 13000 (which he didn't) then that's still terrible, imagine not being able to sell over 13000 tickets, he didn't even sell out a venue without a large capacity in his own country, absolutely terrible, AJ is set to sell out MSG with over 19000 tickets sold and has sold out 90 thousand before, commercially Wilder is a bum compared to AJ, it's extremely embarrassing. He should grow if he beats Ortiz and Fury though, hopefully that's the case as would just make the fight bigger, but as of now he's not even on that level.

Nobody believes you.. I said back up what you're saying with proof.. Not some imaginary conversation you with someone who works at the event.. Simple enough faq??

 

[Bigblackted4]

They may be Pulev and Usyk. Those 2 could both be his mandatory defences.

Forgot about Pulev man can’t wait to see him get KOed out of the division