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[bigbadbossup2012]

I didn't excuse anything..Terrance Crawford's deal with ESPN is not what's stopping the fight.. Terrance Crawford business with TR is not what's making Spence stall the fight.. Wilder/Fury dont got shyt to do with what we talking about. And nobody forced that punk bytch Fury to turn down a 50/50 ppv offer for the belt that was on the table. How could Arum possibly be to blame for that..

How is it foolish to fight Crawford next?? When it's the fight EVERYONE wants to see over any other possible ww fight...which everyone knows is a bigger and more important fight than Spence vs Porter, Thurman, or middle aged Senator Pacquiao. You may respect stall tactics, but I dont homie.. Calling Arum desperate cause they calling for the biggest current ww fight ain't gonna work out for Spence or anyone defending him

You ARE making excuses. It's not about his deal STOPPING the fight. It's about his deal (signed in Sept 2018) making his fights with the PBC welterweights less likely than if he over there with them. Now THAT IS HIS CHOICE, but if it was all about making the best fights for team crawford, then why resign to a company that not only doesn't have anyone for you, but also blocked you from fighting the legendary Manny Pacquiao? Clearly it's not ALL about making the best fights for him, it's about doing the (seemingly) best business. Wilder/Fury made perfect sense within the context I used it in, WHY? BECAUSE the same shyt Arum is complaining about, he actually is doing himself and in a much more flagrant fashion.
NO ONE MADE Fury do what he did, but Arum and Warren played their role in it. Arum has said many times that he wants the fight to build (though its already built) and he wants to do 2 fights before that rematch. But Al is supposed to jump cause they said so? Lol nikka please. I went to Wilder Fury and I was fixing to go to the rematch. But they got on that bullshyt. Why, because they're playing chess, but they're going to lose to Al, trust that.
It's foolish, because there are multiple big fights in house, which will make Spence even bigger and widens the gap that's already on his side when they start negotiating. Them PBC nikkas doing the right thing. You gotta respect the game. You cant really call a unification fight against a better resume having Shawn Porter a "stall tactic". It's very much a viable fight. Keith is undefeated as of now, Manny is a legend and PPV DRAW. ALL THOSE fights make plenty sense. So Terrance can go fight Brook while PBC plays masterful chess with the WW division.
If you care so much about fights that need to happen, put some energy into Fury Wilder 2. Since top rank is more flagrantly guilty of what you're accusing PBC of.
And yea Bob is Hella desperate.
If he was in Al shoes, he WOULD NOT be pushing Spence Crawford, and you know that shyt. But it's cool, keep playing dumb, I'm slightly amused.

 

[reservoirdogs]

yea I know.. I was responding to “He only lost to Taylor”

Oh that’s just my English... only was pointed at the fashion he lost to Taylor not that Taylor is the only one who beat him.

 

[patscorpio]

t-craw learning

 

[Bigblackted4]

I blame Thurman for this mess at welterweight, unify the division and then retire from injury but not get stripped

 

[seemorecizzy]

Ortiz is clearly juicing lmao

 

[reservoirdogs]

So what you saying is Terrance SHOULDN'T HAVE RESIGNED TO TOP RANK, KNOWING THAT ALL THE QUALITY FIGHTS ARE OVER AT PBC. IT DIDN'T MAKE HIM LOOK LOYAL IT MADE HIM LOOK STUPID. INSTEAD OF LOOKING LIKE A FIGHTER THAT WANTED TO GET TO ALL THE BEST FIGHTS, HE LOOKS LIKE A BRAINWASHED NEGRO THAT STAYED AWAY FROM THE GOOD FIGHTS SO HE COULD STAY WITH A GUY THAT DOWNPLAYS HIS GREATNESS TO SUPPORT LOMA (WHO HAs A Loss) AND MADE HIM MISS OUT ON SUPER STARDOM BY WITHHOLDING A PACQUIAO FIGHT?

Maybe he thought if these PBC dudes are really so independent and all, nobody is saying them what to do so they can fight him whenever they want regardless of which promoter he's with or which channel he's on

Crawford is down to make this fight he made it clear, now it's Spence's turn. But he said why not take the easier route and fight Porter? And seems like that's what he's gonna do. If he's really some independent force he should be able to fight Crawford whenever and wherever and not talking about the wrong side of the street, Arum, taking hte easier route with Porter and etc...

I don't think Spence would be scared of anyone either, he's a dog and an elite fighter it's just a pity that it seems he embraces crew mentality and boxing politics

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Maybe he thought if these PBC dudes are really so independent and all, nobody is saying them what to do so they can fight him whenever they want regardless of which promoter he's with or which channel he's on

Crawford is down to make this fight he made it clear, now it's Spence's turn. But he said why not take the easier route and fight Porter? And seems like that's what he's gonna do. If he's really some independent force he should be able to fight Crawford whenever and wherever and not talking about the wrong side of the street, Arum, taking hte easier route with Porter and etc...

I don't think Spence would be scared of anyone either, he's a dog and an elite fighter it's just a pity that it seems he embraces crew mentality and boxing politics

More disingenuous nonsense. If Dude was prioritizing those fights, he should have made them easy to make as possible. He didn't so he has to deal with the consequences of actions. Saying you're down or barking about what you want is never going to mean more than what you actually DO. My point is both sides embraced a crew mentality. Crawford stayed at TR out of habit, and that 3 mil. He didn't do it cause he was trying to make the fights that people want. His move is a total contradiction of that. Like I said to you and other dude, if we're going to demonize business moves, we're doing it across the board. We're not giving passes to the group we side with them whining about the other side. Not if we're keeping it real. I'm keeping it real. Spence and his advisor are playing it right. Like it or not. Spence saying he's going after Porter and Thurman/Pacquiao winner is no more of a road block than Terrence staying at top rank. He and Arum did what they thought was best, and Spence and Al are doing the same.

 

[Black_Jesus]

EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES. EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses exec excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses.

Everything you just said was nothing but excuses. bytchmade ones at that

.. I didn’t make not one excuse actually.. It’s cool though. At the end of the day, one side is saying “let’s make the fight” The other side is saying “they must be desperate” “I rather take the easy route”.. when just a year ago it was “get a belt then we can fight”.. If you wanna continue to buy into the bullshyt that this fight is sooooooo hard to make because Bud is with ESPN, go right ahead, but that excuse won’t hold up

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

:Jccjrstache:

 

[kej718]

:Jccjrstache:

I think Miller's license expired in NY, so that might have something to do with it (some kind of loophole). Even after the suspension he may not be allowed to fight in some states. Crazy to think that Ortiz was taken out of thier rankings and #1 spot when he actually had an excuse for the stuff that he used. How long was Povetkins ban? He still got his title shot.

 

[Black_Jesus]

:Jccjrstache:

Hell l... Luis Ortiz was suspended for a year by the same organization cause of blood pressure medication.. Even after it got overturned y everybody else

 

[kej718]

More disingenuous nonsense. If Dude was prioritizing those fights, he should have made them easy to make as possible. He didn't so he has to deal with the consequences of actions. Saying you're down or barking about what you want is never going to mean more than what you actually DO. My point is both sides embraced a crew mentality. Crawford stayed at TR out of habit, and that 3 mil. He didn't do it cause he was trying to make the fights that people want. His move is a total contradiction of that. Like I said to you and other dude, if we're going to demonize business moves, we're doing it across the board. We're not giving passes to the group we side with them whining about the other side. Not if we're keeping it real. I'm keeping it real. Spence and his advisor are playing it right. Like it or not. Spence saying he's going after Porter and Thurman/Pacquiao winner is no more of a road block than Terrence staying at top rank. He and Arum did what they thought was best, and Spence and Al are doing the same.

Look at Alverez when he fought Kovalev too. He had to sign with them to make those fights at 175lbs. Arum says they wants to work with Haymon but they really just want his fighters. That is why we didn't get the Wilder vs Fury rematch. The deal they offered Wilder was in intermediate fight then Fury, and he had to be under contract with ESPN.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

You ARE making excuses. It's not about his deal STOPPING the fight. It's about his deal (signed in Sept 2018) making his fights with the PBC welterweights less likely than if he over there with them. Now THAT IS HIS CHOICE, but if it was all about making the best fights for team crawford, then why resign to a company that not only doesn't have anyone for you, but also blocked you from fighting the legendary Manny Pacquiao? Clearly it's not ALL about making the best fights for him, it's about doing the (seemingly) best business. Wilder/Fury made perfect sense within the context I used it in, WHY? BECAUSE the same shyt Arum is complaining about, he actually is doing himself and in a much more flagrant fashion.
NO ONE MADE Fury do what he did, but Arum and Warren played their role in it. Arum has said many times that he wants the fight to build (though its already built) and he wants to do 2 fights before that rematch. But Al is supposed to jump cause they said so? Lol nikka please. I went to Wilder Fury and I was fixing to go to the rematch. But they got on that bullshyt. Why, because they're playing chess, but they're going to lose to Al, trust that.
It's foolish, because there are multiple big fights in house, which will make Spence even bigger and widens the gap that's already on his side when they start negotiating. Them PBC nikkas doing the right thing. You gotta respect the game. You cant really call a unification fight against a better resume having Shawn Porter a "stall tactic". It's very much a viable fight. Keith is undefeated as of now, Manny is a legend and PPV DRAW. ALL THOSE fights make plenty sense. So Terrance can go fight Brook while PBC plays masterful chess with the WW division.
If you care so much about fights that need to happen, put some energy into Fury Wilder 2. Since top rank is more flagrantly guilty of what you're accusing PBC of.
And yea Bob is Hella desperate.
If he was in Al shoes, he WOULD NOT be pushing Spence Crawford, and you know that shyt. But it's cool, keep playing dumb, I'm slightly amused.

Everything you just said was nothing but excuses. bytchmade ones at that

.. I didn’t make not one excuse actually.. It’s cool though. At the end of the day, one side is saying “let’s make the fight” The other side is saying “they must be desperate” “I rather take the easy route”.. when just a year ago it was “get a belt then we can fight”.. If you wanna continue to buy into the bullshyt that this fight is sooooooo hard to make because Bud is with ESPN, go right ahead, but that excuse won’t hold up

Don't alter my post, dispel it.
If you can't then just fall back

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Look at Alverez when he fought Kovalev too. He had to sign with them to make those fights at 175lbs. Arum says they wants to work with Haymon but they really just want his fighters. That is why we didn't get the Wilder vs Fury rematch. The deal they offered Wilder was in intermediate fight then Fury, and he had to be under contract with ESPN.

Exactly, they're full of shyt. And you got dudes in here acting like PBC is on some way out shyt.
Bob is a hardcore business man, and he has to deal with other business men.
Dude sin here crying as if it's one side that's pushing their agenda. No, all sides are, the dominant side will win. Simple

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

he really turned down life changing money.