something shifty for sure!he really turned down life changing money.
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Black_Jesus
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The fight doesn't need to be for undisputed... That's just a stall tactic..
It doesn't need to be, but it makes the fight bigger. And lol @ arguing that Top Rank really wants to make this fight right now when Arum is openly calling Haymon a scamster and a racist in the media. Yea, that's the way to make a fight
Black_Jesus
Superstar
I never argued that TopRank really wants anything. But when will yall stop making excuses for this dude.. Spence been stalling talking bout he rather take the easy way before Arum signed Fury.. Before his comments towards Haymon or whatever a couple weeks ago.. And who gives a fukk.. Really.. Is Al Haymon Spence daddy or something cause Arum talking shyt about Haymon ain't a good enough excuse to stall the fight out in the fashion he doing...It doesn't need to be, but it makes the fight bigger. And lol @ arguing that Top Rank really wants to make this fight right now when Arum is openly calling Haymon a scamster and a racist in the media. Yea, that's the way to make a fight
this and now him and porter are prolly the shakiest of the welterweight champions
my 2 cents on spence and t-craw....i can see it for both sides....yes the time is prolly right for the fight to pop..esp since both haven't fought anyone since they became WW champs that the large majority think that they can beat them or be competitive..yes that includes spence vs mikey 
....on top of that the video of them talking big shyt each other in front with arum in the mix got a lot of attention..casual attention..i honestly dont think a lot of build up is needed to get ppl to be excited and/or want to buy or be there live..on the other hand i can also see the argument for building it up a little by having the PBC welterweight champs (spence, porter, pac, thurman) get their shyt together and fight to see who is best then somehow get t-craw in the mix...after t-craw these are the best fights for spence and him facing any of the 3 would suffice...frankly this should have been done lot earlier but i wont get into my views on PBC matchmaking..but spence needs to drop the wrong side of the street bullshyt because he hasn't fought anybody since being welterweight champion to warrant that..really only pacquiao can do that...bottom line welterweight as a whole is overrated and underachieving for a so called marquee division and has been for years...everyone of the main cats should drop the bullshyt and try to make the best fights they can while they are still in prime (excluding pacquiao)
....on top of that the video of them talking big shyt each other in front with arum in the mix got a lot of attention..casual attention..i honestly dont think a lot of build up is needed to get ppl to be excited and/or want to buy or be there live..on the other hand i can also see the argument for building it up a little by having the PBC welterweight champs (spence, porter, pac, thurman) get their shyt together and fight to see who is best then somehow get t-craw in the mix...after t-craw these are the best fights for spence and him facing any of the 3 would suffice...frankly this should have been done lot earlier but i wont get into my views on PBC matchmaking..but spence needs to drop the wrong side of the street bullshyt because he hasn't fought anybody since being welterweight champion to warrant that..really only pacquiao can do that...bottom line welterweight as a whole is overrated and underachieving for a so called marquee division and has been for years...everyone of the main cats should drop the bullshyt and try to make the best fights they can while they are still in prime (excluding pacquiao)
malbaker86
Gators
Bruh....everybody knew before last year, last year, and this year that Spence vs Crawford not happening soon and will once all the belts are on the line. Spence building his profile while collecting belts and Crawford upping his as well. Crawford need a Spence fight more than the other way around. Spwnce about to fight two back to back unification bouts assuming all things health and win wise goes to plan.
my 2 cents on spence and t-craw....i can see it for both sides....yes the time is prolly right for the fight to pop..esp since both haven't fought anyone since they became WW champs that the large majority think that they can beat them or be competitive..yes that includes spence vs mikey
Yep I see both sides.
Personally, I’d prefer it now. The winner of this fight is clearly the man of the division. Undisputed would be nice, but due to the politics of boxing it can be damn near impossible.
Undisputed works if the other champions are lower tier guys, like it did for Crawford at 140. At 147, you have a situation where every title holder is a high profile guy with a team that micromanages their every move. Therefore, I don’t really trip off undisputed anymore.
I understand it would be ideal if each guy had two titles and decided to collide, but things don’t always work that way.
From a business point of view, it doesn’t make any sense for these guys to risk their 0 and fight now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen. I can see Errol either outgrowing 147 or some opportunity presents itself to where he moves up.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Spence can do what he wants.. I dont care what his plans are.. Stalling is stalling no matter how you spin it..
At nikkas believing these fights can only happen in a particular order
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
You keep talking about stall tactics, but it's without merit. The matches Spence is putting in front of Crawford are
PORTER, whom is also a champ with a better RESUME THAN Crawford.
Thurman is an undefeated champion
Manny is a legend and if he beats Thurman, then he will be a champ that took a belt from an undefeated champion.
TTerrance doesn't deserve the fight more than any of them.
HE can get in line
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
He doesn't need to drop anything. Crawford is on the wrong side of the street. It be one thing if he was in a long standing contract from 2011 etc but naw he signed a new deal, last fall, keeping him with a promoter whom had consistently been disrespectful to another entity, over and over and over,knowing that this other entity had all the potential fights he wanted for the division he was now A champ in.my 2 cents on spence and t-craw....i can see it for both sides....yes the time is prolly right for the fight to pop..esp since both haven't fought anyone since they became WW champs that the large majority think that they can beat them or be competitive..yes that includes spence vs mikey
nikkas can't say shyt about Spence fighting them other dudes, all or equally reputable fights and all under the same umbrella.