the rahman and the peter fights..im fully convinced those are where he got kinda broken..an all time great chin but he was never meant to take blows from heavyweights like that...he really did take some shots from those 2
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The axe murderer
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Yeah and he did a ton of sparring.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Brehs does GGG go to Buddy Mcgirt, Freddie Roach or Robert Gacia?
that too lol
You know what? i agree. If Estrada gives Sor a third fight and doesn't figure out how to deal with southpaw stance in the meantime then I think Sor wins it. That's no shade on Estrada at all but Sor's strength and activity was giving him trouble in that last half of the fight, no doubt about that.
seemorecizzy
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still get chills
One of the greatest boxing performances everThat was the crazy thing. He's an oddity because even with heavyweights he would fight inside. Against Peter he wasn't in his best shape but he still baffled him in the 1st. Pete had his number in the 2nd. He ballooned up a ton in part because he never really liked doing conditioning and his sparring was his workout. Holyfield was discombobulated against him
MasterOfAllHeSurveyz
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That was the crazy thing. He's an oddity because even with heavyweights he would fight inside. Against Peter he wasn't in his best shape but he still baffled him in the 1st. Pete had his number in the 2nd. He ballooned up a ton in part because he never really liked doing conditioning and his sparring was his workout. Holyfield was discombobulated against him
Conditioning is not the reason why Toney balloned up like that. Toney looked like he did due to thyroid problems and damage to his pituitary gland that severely affected his testosterone and HGH production. If you're ever close up on Toney, when he's not suited and booted, look real hard and you can see a thin little line across his throat that's a tell-tale sign of partial thyroid removal. My mother had the same surgery in her mid-40s. She used to have debilitating migraines, since she was a teen, and extreme weight gain as an adult due to an overactive thyroid.
Toney had TBI way before those fights. I noticed Toney had a "heavy tongue" as far back as the Hembrick fight during his post-fight interview. Bill Miller warned him (originally wanted Toney to retire before he turned 30 and put his foot down after the Griffin loss). Toney didn't listen, fired Miller and hired Ronnie Shields.
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On a side note, as long as I live, I'll never forget the name Anthony Hembrick. My first televised fight that I attended as a kid was Hembrick vs. Booker T. Word. My dad and I still crack up about that fight to this day.
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Damn didn't know about that thyroid issue 
still get chills
sergio beat the crap out of jr but motherfukker came in like a small heavy and sergio picked up bad knee injuries dealing with it
seemorecizzy
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the fight ruined both of their careers
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
wish sergio prime and ggg prime would have fought. Perfect styles match up
ChocolateGiddyUp
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still get chills
My Aunt was at the crib for that.... she don’t kno shyt bout boxing... she was
yelling like it was a Tyson fight #mexicanhero :smugjccjr:
Bigblackted4
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Dubois got hurt but got a stoppage