id take the betY’all seem the odds for the Shields/Hammer fight
+320 for Hammer isfor a reported 50/50 fight.
To be fair I never seen Hammer but I seen shields and Shields ain’t that great as she hyped up to be.
What y’all think about that fight..
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i was a huge punisher stan breh..the good and the bad..shyt i even put myself through a wild ass routine to even imitate him in the gym lol
i was a huge punisher stan breh..the good and the bad..shyt i even put myself through a wild ass routine to even imitate him in the gym lol
It’s pretty obvious, considering you justified his performance by choosing to believe he was trying to prove something, rather then acknowledge that southpaws that could box was his krpytonite.
Regardless it was just terrible matchmaking that I didn’t understand.
im not disagreeing completely on the southpaw slant but winky and sharmba mitchell were also southpaws too and he whooped them
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Winky had to be completely washed at that point.
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Y’all seem the odds for the Shields/Hammer fight
+320 for Hammer is
To be fair I never seen Hammer but I seen shields and Shields ain’t that great as she hyped up to be.
What y’all think about that fight..
I’m seeing +250 for hammer, but Vegas is usually right about these fights man. I might throw a bill down.
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Bovado has +320 yesterday. It probably dropped now tho. I never seen Hammer so I’m hesitant to bet big money. And since I use bovado I really dnt like messing with it unless I’m going to make a decent sum since I got to convert to bitcoin and shyt.
Vegas is usually right but I made the most money last year by picking the winner on the outcome of close fights. That’s my bread and butter (2/2 last year
) . I missed out by not betting on Spence by UD. Usually the top (non heavyweight) fights always go to decision that’s how I get a little better odds. I rarely bet tho unless I’m sure sure. The next sure thing Im going to bet big money on is Canelo UD over GGG. That shyt damn near guranteed and u would get that on decent odds.Cmon man Williams was all wrong for Winky. A volume puncher can beat Winky, plus he was out of his prime. Solomon gave Winky all he could handle, just because he had the right style. Solomon was not a top tier guy.
Although Prime Winky is probably better then the guys that beat Paul, he didn’t have the style that they did.
I can’t believe you brought up Mitchell.
volume punching also beat sergio too in the first fight...sergio had the style but paul's workrate sapped him in the later rounds...it would have been the same in the second fight but you know...
i had to bring up mitchell...shyt mitchell was better than quintana to me lol
Fury-Schwarz June 15 ESPN+ Show Heads To MGM Grand
By Jake Donovan
A grand arrival is officially in store for Tyson Fury’s Las Vegas debut.
The unbeaten heavyweight from England will play Sin City for the first time in his career, with his June 15 clash with Germany’s Tom Schwarz officially landing at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. The destination for the ESPN+ card was confirmed through MGM Grand Hotel’s corporate office on Monday.
Lead promoter Top Rank originally had a hold on UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center for the event as a placeholder to lock in the date and with MGM Grand always in play.
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With venue confirmation comes the first major heavyweight bout to headline at the venue since Jan. ’15, when Deontay Wilder soundly outpointed Bermane Stiverne over 12 rounds to begin his still current title reign.
Wilder’s most recent title defense, of course, came in his thrilling 12-round draw versus Fury (27-0-1, 19KOs) last December in Los Angeles. Talks for a sequel began mere days after their Showtime Pay-Per-View headliner and appeared far advanced, only for Fury and promoter Frank Warren to catch many in the industry off guard with their signing with Top Rank and ESPN in mid-February.
The move functionally killed any plans for an immediate rematch, although a peace offering coming in the form of a multi-fight deal presented to Wilder to join the ESPN family. The offer was rejected by Wilder (40-0-1, 39KOs), who will next make a mandatory title defense versus Dominic Breazeale on May 18 at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, live on Showtime.
Four weeks later will come just the third stateside fight for Fury and his first ever in the boxing capital of the world, which for the Brit has long remained a bucket list item.
His dream destination comes in the form of a scheduled 12-round affair with Schwarz (24-0, 16KOs), an unbeaten fringe contender from Germany who makes his stateside debut. A notable win is currently lacking from the résumé of Schwarz—who turns 25 in May—but is ranked among the Top 10 in the current set of heavyweight rankings from the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and World Boxing Organization (WBO).
Both titles are currently in the possession of Fury’s countryman, Anthony Joshua who makes his U.S. debut in a June 1 unified title defense versus Brooklyn’s Jarrell Miller.
The lone other stateside appearance for Fury came in April ’13, when he climbed off the canvas to stop former cruiserweight champ Steve Cunningham in seven rounds. He would go on to win the World heavyweight championship, dethroning long-reigning king Wladimir Klitschko over 12 rounds in Nov. ’15.
Not a single successful defense came of his reign (despite marketing efforts still reference his lineal title reign) as Fury entered a 31-month self-imposed ring hiatus to battle drug addiction and mental health issues. He enjoyed a triumphant return last June, winning a pair of rust-shaking bouts over the summer before his memorable clash with Wilder.
The June 15 ESPN+ show will mark the first show at this venue for Top Rank since last June—a year almost to the day. That card also streamed live on ESPN+, headlined by Terence Crawford’s third division title win in a 9th round stoppage of Jeff Horn to become a welterweight titlist.
By Jake Donovan
A grand arrival is officially in store for Tyson Fury’s Las Vegas debut.
The unbeaten heavyweight from England will play Sin City for the first time in his career, with his June 15 clash with Germany’s Tom Schwarz officially landing at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. The destination for the ESPN+ card was confirmed through MGM Grand Hotel’s corporate office on Monday.
Lead promoter Top Rank originally had a hold on UNLV’s Thomas & Mack Center for the event as a placeholder to lock in the date and with MGM Grand always in play.
With venue confirmation comes the first major heavyweight bout to headline at the venue since Jan. ’15, when Deontay Wilder soundly outpointed Bermane Stiverne over 12 rounds to begin his still current title reign.
Wilder’s most recent title defense, of course, came in his thrilling 12-round draw versus Fury (27-0-1, 19KOs) last December in Los Angeles. Talks for a sequel began mere days after their Showtime Pay-Per-View headliner and appeared far advanced, only for Fury and promoter Frank Warren to catch many in the industry off guard with their signing with Top Rank and ESPN in mid-February.
The move functionally killed any plans for an immediate rematch, although a peace offering coming in the form of a multi-fight deal presented to Wilder to join the ESPN family. The offer was rejected by Wilder (40-0-1, 39KOs), who will next make a mandatory title defense versus Dominic Breazeale on May 18 at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, live on Showtime.
Four weeks later will come just the third stateside fight for Fury and his first ever in the boxing capital of the world, which for the Brit has long remained a bucket list item.
His dream destination comes in the form of a scheduled 12-round affair with Schwarz (24-0, 16KOs), an unbeaten fringe contender from Germany who makes his stateside debut. A notable win is currently lacking from the résumé of Schwarz—who turns 25 in May—but is ranked among the Top 10 in the current set of heavyweight rankings from the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and World Boxing Organization (WBO).
Both titles are currently in the possession of Fury’s countryman, Anthony Joshua who makes his U.S. debut in a June 1 unified title defense versus Brooklyn’s Jarrell Miller.
The lone other stateside appearance for Fury came in April ’13, when he climbed off the canvas to stop former cruiserweight champ Steve Cunningham in seven rounds. He would go on to win the World heavyweight championship, dethroning long-reigning king Wladimir Klitschko over 12 rounds in Nov. ’15.
Not a single successful defense came of his reign (despite marketing efforts still reference his lineal title reign) as Fury entered a 31-month self-imposed ring hiatus to battle drug addiction and mental health issues. He enjoyed a triumphant return last June, winning a pair of rust-shaking bouts over the summer before his memorable clash with Wilder.
The June 15 ESPN+ show will mark the first show at this venue for Top Rank since last June—a year almost to the day. That card also streamed live on ESPN+, headlined by Terence Crawford’s third division title win in a 9th round stoppage of Jeff Horn to become a welterweight titlist.
volume punching also beat sergio too in the first fight...sergio had the style but paul's workrate sapped him in the later rounds...it would have been the same in the second fight but you know...
i had to bring up mitchell...shyt mitchell was better than quintana to me lol
Hold up
You think Paul won the first fight?
Yeah your usual logic isn’t there when it comes to Paul it appears.
Yeah...the only issue I had with that fight was that idiot judge that scored that shyt 119-110 for paul..but I've always thought he won that fight close. 115-113 ish. You act like most ppl didnt think he won that fight lol.
The only fights I didn't think he won was the first Quintana fight and Lara fight
@patscorpio turns out Manny isn’t going to fight in Japan but he signed a deal to bring fighters from his stable to Japan. Can’t hate on that, good for him to get his promotional career underway 
@patscorpio turns out Manny isn’t going to fight in Japan but he signed a deal to bring fighters from his stable to Japan. Can’t hate on that, good for him to get his promotional career underway
not bad..life after boxing moves