Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,707
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,527
Spence just being honest. Porter is easier in both senses. Easier to make and easier to beat.


People would be ok with Tcraw resume if he didn’t get P4P praise. Blown up Gamboa still his biggest win and that’s a problem.

No matter what his circumstances is the criticism is still VALID. It happened to GGG, Wilder, Wlad so dnt act like Crawford is above the fray. AJ and Canelo even getting hit with criticism.

Bottom line is Bob Arum the promoter, Bob can get this man a decent fight.
With P4P ranks eye test always mattered too not strictly resume. If you have guys who have great wins after great wins recently they should be in the top few but we don't have an abundance of those guys we only have a few.

I don't know why some ppl take offense in Crawford'd P4P rankings. I didn't see once serious ranking site/paper/whatever who wouldn't have him at least in the top 3 regardless if the ranker is being known as close to x or y promotional outfit. I'd say it is hardly a coincidence that he is so universally acclaimed. He obviously has the goods. Or is everybody wrong?

Fully agree with the bold part, Arum gotta do his job, he is in this game for almost 40 years, he will find out something. I can hardly imagine Crawford slipping into irrelevance with TR and ESPN behind him if they keep him active barring some huge upset which derails his career.
Imo that Spence fight will come too in 2020-2021 (realistically...) or something like that except if Spence goes 154 permanently.
But I'd like to see Crawford in good fights until then, I hope they get a Swift fight made after Khan, that would be a good start to fight the PBC guys.
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,707
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,527
Top Ranks “stable” at 147 may be the worst in boxing.

Arum know what he’s doing . Crawford is a P4P guy for sure but Top Rank being top heavy helps the perception of a Star/ main attraction comes easy when there’s no competition with fights that can be made on the network. It’s been that way since Manny. Loma... Guys on the comeup like Shakur and Lopez etc there’s legit guys around the weight class on TR in a year or two
Lopez maybe idk, he's currently at 135 but let's see how he progresses before

And Shakur is a 126er idk if he ever will be at 147 but I'd rather say he won't
 

LauderdaleBoss

#TunnelGang #RingGangRadio
Staff member
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
18,349
Reputation
5,153
Daps
57,026
Reppin
Lauderdale
The Charlo twins shouldn't fight on the same card no more...

I think they just gotta cut back on it, but they shouldn't stop altogether. They twins, that's a great marketing tool and its part of the lot they were given in life. May as well build on it.
 

patscorpio

It's a movement
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
119,884
Reputation
11,545
Daps
248,229
Reppin
MA/CT/Nigeria #byrdgang #RingGangRadio
Leo Santa Cruz vs. Rafael Rivera Set, Miguel Flores Withdraws

Featherweight challenger Miguel Flores suffered an ankle injury in training and was forced to drop out of his match against WBA Featherweight World Champion Leo "El Terremoto'' Santa Cruz that headlines Premier Boxing Champions on FOX and FOX Deportes Saturday, February 16 from Microsoft Theater at L.A. Live in Los Angeles.

Stepping up to replace Flores is Rafael "Big Bang'' Rivera, a 24-year-old contender from Tijuana, Mexico.

The televised undercard will also feature a battle of unbeaten super welterweight prospects as sensational Sebastian "The Towering Inferno" Fondura takes on Donnie Marshall in an eight-round match that will kick off the television coverage at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. The co-feature is an exciting 12-round junior welterweight clash between unbeaten former champion Omar Figueroa and hard-hitting John Molina Jr.

leo-santa-cruz%20(2)_8.jpg


Tickets for the show, which is promoted by TGB Promotions and Ringstar Sports, are on sale now, and can be purchased at AXS.com.

Rivera (26-2-2, 17 KOs) is no stranger to stepping into tough challenges on short notice. One of his losses came when he stepped in as a late replacement to take on Joseph "JoJo'' Diaz in September 2017 and lost by decision. In his next fight he lost a split decision to unbeaten Joet Gonzalez on July 13. He rebounded with a knockout victory over Jose Ramos in his last fight on October 19 and will now step up to face the toughest challenge of his career on February 16.

At 6-foot-6, the unbeaten Fundora (11-0, 7 KOs) has made a name for himself with his stature and skills inside the ring. The 21-year-old southpaw from Coachella, California blazed through 2018 by stopping all three of his opponents by knockout, including previously unbeaten Ve Shawn Owens in April and most recently Jeremiah Wiggins in November.

The 30-year-old Marshall (10-0, 6 KOs) is from Raleigh, North Carolina and also had a busy 2018, fighting four times and scoring two stoppage wins. He earned unanimous decision over Javier Frazier in his last fight on November 30.

a slight upgrade
 

1986

♤♡♢♧
Joined
May 5, 2012
Messages
2,819
Reputation
480
Daps
7,076
Reppin
the real hiphop.
I think they just gotta cut back on it, but they shouldn't stop altogether. They twins, that's a great marketing tool and its part of the lot they were given in life. May as well build on it.
Yeah I realize that they build each other up due to the fact that they are twins and all but I’d recommend them to fight seperately cause they need to focus on their own shyt. Or you could have one of them fight the main event against a live opponent (and for a title or whatever) and the other twin fights an easy stay busy/showcase fight. Can’t have both of them fighting tough, competitive opponents on the same card. That’s just my take on them. :hubie:
 

patscorpio

It's a movement
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
119,884
Reputation
11,545
Daps
248,229
Reppin
MA/CT/Nigeria #byrdgang #RingGangRadio
WBC Welterweight World Champion Shawn Porter will make his first title defense in primetime as he battles mandatory challenger Yordenis Ugas Saturday, March 9 in the main event of Premier Boxing Champions on FOX and FOX Deportes live from Dignity Health Sports Park, formerly StubHub Center, in Carson, California.

Televised coverage begins at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT and will see Porter defend his title after defeating Danny Garcia in an exciting September clash to capture the WBC belt. He will face Cuba's Ugas, who has worked his way to this position with an impressive string of eight-straight victories leading up to March 9.

The action also features a duel between two hard-hitting brawlers as Andrzej Fonfara and Edwin Rodriguez meet in a 10-round cruiserweight match in the co-feature, while heavy-handed slugger Efe Ajagba steps up to face experienced veteran Amir Mansour in an eight-round heavyweight attraction in the televised opener.

porter-ugas.jpg


Tickets for the live event, which is promoted by TGB Promotions, are on sale Monday, January 28 at 12 p.m. PT. Tickets can be purchased at AXS.com

"Shawn Porter is one of the most charismatic and exciting fighters in the sport and he's sure to light up the screen on March 9 on FOX and FOX Deportes," said Tom Brown, President of TGB Promotions. "After winning a hard-fought close decision over Danny Garcia in September to capture the title, he will again have his hands full, this time with Cuba's Yordenis Ugas, who has taken the division by storm, defeating top contenders and prospects to put himself in this mandatory position for his first world title. It's a matchup of styles that is sure to generate a memorable night.

"In addition, Andrzej Fonfara and Edwin Rodriguez are heavy-hitters known for being in electric matchups and I expect both to leave it all on the line in this showdown to see who moves back closer to the championship ranks. With sensational prospect Efe Ajagba rising up the heavyweight division, he will look to secure another knockout on this March 9 card that is set to deliver from top to bottom."

Porter will defend his title just over a month after Keith Thurman and Manny Pacquiao defend their 147-pound championships in separate clashes, and one week before Errol Spence Jr. puts his welterweight belt on the line against Mikey Garcia on FOX Sports PBC PPV, as we near finding out who will rise to the top of boxing's deepest and most-exciting division.

The 31-year-old Porter earned the Garcia fight with a dominant stoppage of former world champion Andre Berto, which he followed up by defeating tough contender Adrian Granados. This followed Porter's memorable title clash against Keith Thurman in 2016, which drew Fight of the Year praise and was narrowly won by Thurman.

Originally from Akron, Ohio but now living and training in Las Vegas, Porter became a welterweight champion for the first time in 2014 when he defeated Devon Alexander. Although he lost the belt to Kell Brook, Porter rebounded two fights later with a high-profile win against four-division champion Adrien Broner.

"We've already been in training camp for a few weeks working on conditioning and building up the fundamentals," said Porter. "Ugas is a strong, aggressive fighter who's responsible with his defense. He's a Cuban fighter and I know he won't waiver from that. It's going to be up to me to get him to drop his hands, take some risks and then land my shots. It should make for a very entertaining fight and I can't wait to get back in the ring and do what I do best."

March 9 concludes a long road traveled by Ugas (23-3,11 KOs) from Cuban amateur star, to nearly out of the sport, and now on the cusp of a world championship. The 32-year-old won Bronze at the 2008 Olympic games and was 15-1 as a pro before suffering back-to-back losses in 2014. A 28-month layoff followed, with Ugas eventually deciding to return to the ring for a battle against then unbeaten prospect Jamal James.

Ugas not only defeated James in August 2016, but he followed up the win by stopping another unbeaten prospect in Bryant Perrella just over a month later. Now living in Miami and training in Las Vegas, Ugas triumphed in title eliminators against Ray Robinson last February and Cesar Barrionuevo in September on the undercard of the Garcia vs. Porter fight.

"This is a huge opportunity to make my dreams come true of becoming a world champion on FOX,'' said Ugas. "Shawn Porter is a great champion and someone I respect. On March 9 when the bell rings, I'm willing to leave it all on the line, so the fans shouldn't miss this one. It will be a 'Fight of the Year' contender. I can guarantee that and you will hear the words 'and the new!'''

Fonfara (30-5, 18 KOs) established himself as a rugged contender in the light heavyweight division with some solid victories, including his most notable triumph over Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. He fought Adonis Stevenson twice for the light heavyweight world championship, losing the first time by decision in 2014 and losing by TKO in 2017. In his last fight on Feb. 17, the 31-year-old Fonfara of Radom, Poland, who now lives in Chicago, scored a TKO victory over Ismayl Sillah.

"I'm excited because I've trained a long time to get a fight and now we have a date and a great opponent,'' said Fonfara. "I know Rodriguez is a strong fighter. He moved up to the cruiserweight division like me, so I think this is a 50-50 fight. It's a good fight because me and him are tough fighters. We like to go to war. I know Edwin from Houston because I trained there a couple of times. He and I are good friends with Artur Szpilka. There's no animosity and once we fight and I beat him, we can go out have a beer and talk.''

Rodriguez (30-2, 20 KOs) has demonstrated the ability to end a fight with a single punch, which adds intrigue every time he steps into the ring. The 33-year-old Rodriguez was born in Moca, Dominican Republic before moving to Worcester, Massachusetts. In his last fight he scored a unanimous decision over Lionell Thompson on Feb. 17, 2018.

"I feel great and I feel confident heading into this fight," said Rodriguez. "Fonfara is a great fighter and so am I. It's going to be very entertaining for the fans. I bring it and he brings it. I'll adapt as the fight goes on and I'll be ready for the best Fonfara.''

Nigeria's Ajagba (8-0, 7 KOs) gained notoriety last August 24 at the Armory and on FS1 when his opponent, Curtis Harper, walked out of the ring after touching gloves to start the first round. The 24-year-old won the fight without throwing a punch as Harper was disqualified. In his last fight Ajagba, who lives in Stafford, Texas and trains with Ronnie Shields, knocked out Santino Turnbow on December 22.

Mansour (23-3-1, 16 KOs) is a tough veteran who has battled some of the top contenders in the sport, including Dominic Breazeale, Gerald Washington and former cruiserweight world champion Steve Cunningham. The 46-year-old southpaw from Wilmington, Delaware is looking to rebound from a loss to unbeaten Filip Hrgovic in his last fight on September 8.

first of all thought renaming stubhub to dignity health sports park was a good idea :scust:...stubhub means war in boxing jargon..when a card is held there its assumed at least one fight breaks where blood is spilled on some gladiator shyt :birdman:

with that being said...my boy edwin rodriguez facing fonfara in the co main...dont mind or care about the fight but it shouldnt be the co main for this card..neither of them have been on TV for a min...but ajagba facing amir mansour in the opener....its going to be murder she wrote....murder sheeeeeee wrote :demonic:
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,707
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,527
but ajagba facing amir mansour in the opener....its going to be murder she wrote....murder sheeeeeee wrote :demonic:[/QUOTE]

You’ve seen Mansour against Hrgovic a few months ago?
He looked shytty, got stopped in 3.
Yea it’s gonna be a murder :scust:
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,707
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,527
Farmer vs Carroll March 15

Whoever the fukk wanted to see this put your hands up

Nobody?

For real, I'd have taken it on some "meh, okay" before but since then Carroll looked shytty in a draw against Frenois, they still go ahead with this though...
Machado is on DAZN too so really they should set Farmer vs Machado up instead of feeding them mediocre opponents over and over again. Hell, Quigg is ranked at 130 now too and also with DAZN, him vs either Machado or Farmer would be better too than what they are doing now.
 
Top