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reservoirdogs
Superstar
I guess this gonna be the big room already
Idk if they can pack it like Canelo did but I hope. Lots of Brits gonna travel too
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Why the fukk Stiverne is getting a fight like the Joyce one on the Eubank vs Degale undercard in 2019?
After his last performance dude should have been banished to club fights in towns nobody ever heard of not getting a fight on the big stage again.
After his last performance dude should have been banished to club fights in towns nobody ever heard of not getting a fight on the big stage again.
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its not like joyce is a big name in the HW division...hes a prospect getting a fight against a seemingly fading vet who happens to be a former heavyweight champ....i dont mind the fight
reservoirdogs
Superstar
I just never wanted to see Stiverne box again after his showing on the Wilder rematch
He was beyond washed
lol i hear that...i mean its not like stiverne is getting a shot at Femi or Fury lol. For him its going down the ladder to be used as a name for prospect & contenders...and im sure its not going to be a main event for a card..if it is then somebody fukked up
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
This is a colossal mismatch you might as well have this shyt in Nebraska.
Hopefully this bombs out all the way around so it forces Crawford to actually fight somebody.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Yall keep saying this like the man would avoid anyone and if he'd decide next day that he finally fights "somebody" it would only depend on him and he'd have his wish granted asap.
Even after yall could hear Spence's speech after "the wrong side of the street" and whatnot and also him saying "Why wouldn't he take the easier route" and unify with Porter first. Even after that some of you are nagging Crawford for not fighting these dudes.
At this moment at the PBC side they are having their own shyt and they thank they are good with that they don't need a rival promoter's big fighter to join that party. I'm not saying other promoters don't do this when they have the opportunity but it is what it is. The best I can imagine is that they let one of their dudes who is currently fell out of the priorities (aka has no belt) like Swift to fight Crawford. I guess Arum knows that too that's why he was looking to make Crawford vs Swift when they didn't know yet that Garcia has a fight lined up already.
With all PBC dudes busy currently and very difficult to get politically anyway, you left there with names like Benavidez, Kavaliuskas, Khan, Collazo, etc... I'd say from that bunch Khan makes sense cause still gives the most viewers + money and as for his level it's not like who are picking on Bud's level of opponents would be any more satisfied if he'd fought any of the other available dudes.
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Takin Penitentiary Chances
Michael Conlan vs. Ruben Garcia Hernandez on March 17, ESPN+
Michael “Mick” Conlan is set to paint the Hulu Theater at Madison Square Garden green on St. Patrick’s Day for a third consecutive year. The Belfast native, two-time Irish Olympian, and top featherweight prospect packed the Hulu Theater to the rafters in 2017 and 2018 and will return on Sunday, March 17 to face the battle-tested Ruben Garcia Hernandez in the 10-round main event.
Conlan-Hernandez will begin following the conclusion of the annual NYC St. Patrick’s Day Parade.
In the co-feature, former junior featherweight world champion Jessie Magdaleno will face former junior lightweight world title challenger Christopher “Pitufo” Diaz in a 10-round featherweight clash. And, in a crossroads welterweight bout, Brooklyn native and former world champion Luis Collazo will take on Samuel Vargas in a 10-rounder.
Promoted by Top Rank, tickets for St. Conlan’s Evening priced at $206, $156, $106, $81, $56, and $31 (including facility fees) go on sale Thursday, Jan. 24 at 12 p.m. ET and can be purchased at the Madison Square Garden Box Office, all Ticketmaster outlets, Ticketmaster charge by phone (866-858-0008), and online at ticketmaster.com and MSG.com.
This special St. Patrick’s Day tripleheader will stream live and exclusively at 6 p.m. ET on ESPN+. The soon-to-be-announced undercard will stream live on ESPN+ beginning at 3 p.m. ET.
"I'm excited and honored to fight at my home away from home, The Mecca of Boxing, Madison Square Garden, on St. Patrick's Day for the third consecutive year,” Conlan said. “The fans in New York City have been incredibly supportive of my professional career, and I look forward to putting on a show for them, in addition to my great fans from Ireland who will be coming over for the party in Manhattan. Thanks very much to my team and Top Rank for this tremendous opportunity. I'll be well prepared for victory to kick off a huge year for me in 2019."
Conlan (10-0, 6 KOs) turned pro on St. Patrick’s Day 2017 following a storied amateur career that included gold medals at the European Championships, World Championships, and Commonwealth Games. His pro debut — in front of a capacity crowd of 5,201 and including being flanked to the ring by UFC superstar Conor McGregor — was the birth of a superstar. Conlan fought five times apiece in 2017 and 2018, most recently capturing the vacant WBO Intercontinental belt with a unanimous decision over Jason Cunningham on Dec. 22 in Manchester, England. Conlan, who captured a bronze medal at the 2012 Olympics, has been dominant in the paid ranks. On St Patrick’s Day 2018, he knocked out David Berna in the second round. Hernandez (24-3-2, 10 KOs) has only been knocked out once as a pro and took four-weight world champion Nonito Donaire the 10-round distance in a 2017 bout.
Magdaleno (25-1, 18 KOs) is moving up four pounds following a world title run at 122 pounds that included one successful title defense. In his last bout, April 28 in Philadelphia, he battled Isaac Dogboe in one of the best fights of 2018. Magdaleno knocked down Dogboe in the opening round, only for Dogboe to rally for an 11th-round knockout. Diaz (24-1, 16 KOs), from Barranquitas, Puerto Rico, climbed the 130-pound rankings until he earned a shot at the vacant WBO title last July 28 versus Masayuki Ito. Diaz was knocked down in the fourth round and lost a unanimous decision in a gutsy showing. He moved down to featherweight and rebounded with a first-round stoppage over David Berna on Nov. 24. Diaz is now training with the legendary Freddie Roach.
“It’s going to be that classic Mexico vs. Puerto Rico battle,” Magdaleno said. “That’s the type of fight that the fans love to see! It’s two warriors that like to scrap and bring excitement, so I know I have to be 100 percent ready, and I’m ready to show the fans that I’m back!”
"Facing Jessie Magdaleno represents a new opportunity to battle against top fighters,” Diaz said. “I don’t like going the easy route. I am a warrior, and I want to face the best. That's why I always work hard. March 17 will not be different. That will be the time to shine against the best. Magdaleno is a great challenge because he is a former world champion who will come with plans to get a victory that positions him to challenge for a world title in a second division. But that's also what I want. I want another world title shot, and Magdaleno is in my way. I know that with the great Freddie Roach in my corner, my hunger for triumph, my willingness to leave everything in the ring, and my desire to be the best featherweight in the world, I will achieve my dream of becoming a world champion.”
Collazo (38-7, 20 KOs) is a 19-year-pro and a former welterweight world champion who has faced the likes of “Sugar” Shane Mosley, Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, Andre Berto, Keith Thurman, and Victor Ortiz. One of the sport’s craftiest veterans, Collazo is coming off a well-earned decision victory over Bryant Perrella (15-1 at the time) and a sixth-round knockout against former top prospect Sammy Vasquez. Vargas (30-4-2, 14 KOs) has faced many of the welterweight division’s leading lights during his nine-year career. Last September, he knocked down Khan in the second round, but was unable to finish Khan off and lost a unanimous decision.
“I’m eager to get back in the ring and show the fans that I’m still an elite welterweight,” Collazo said. “Every time I fight, I give my blood, sweat, and tears. Brooklyn is going to be in the house on March 17. Samuel Vargas is in for a rude awakening. After I take care of business, I’m coming for all the top welterweights.”
"For a kid who came from Colombia with nothing, trying to make a name for himself and a better life for his family, fighting at Madison Square Garden feels like a dream come true,” Vargas said. "I've fought on some of the biggest stages in the world, but this is where every fighter envisions themselves fighting. It's an opportunity I won't let go to waste."
Bigblackted4
Superstar
Arum gone have to offer that bag to get Crawford in a real fight
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
Spence just being honest. Porter is easier in both senses. Easier to make and easier to beat.
People would be ok with Tcraw resume if he didn’t get P4P praise. Blown up Gamboa still his biggest win and that’s a problem.
No matter what his circumstances is the criticism is still VALID. It happened to GGG, Wilder, Wlad so dnt act like Crawford is above the fray. AJ and Canelo even getting hit with criticism.
Bottom line is Bob Arum the promoter, Bob can get this man a decent fight.
Bigblackted4
Superstar
Why rankings mean nothing
Welterweight Breakdown & Exposure 6 Title Holders via @YouTube
Welterweight Breakdown & Exposure 6 Title Holders via @YouTube
Bigblackted4
Superstar
We should come up with our own rankings fukk it
Conscious Pilot
Do Better.
Top Ranks “stable” at 147 may be the worst in boxing.
Arum know what he’s doing . Crawford is a P4P guy for sure but Top Rank being top heavy helps the perception of a Star/ main attraction comes easy when there’s no competition with fights that can be made on the network. It’s been that way since Manny. Loma... Guys on the comeup like Shakur and Lopez etc there’s legit guys around the weight class on TR in a year or two
Arum know what he’s doing . Crawford is a P4P guy for sure but Top Rank being top heavy helps the perception of a Star/ main attraction comes easy when there’s no competition with fights that can be made on the network. It’s been that way since Manny. Loma... Guys on the comeup like Shakur and Lopez etc there’s legit guys around the weight class on TR in a year or two