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[The Ruler 09]

Wilder has the opportunity to fight Joshua now but if he's being genuine it seems like he's not looking to take the fight. It's a shame because could have an undisputed champion and a huge historic fight for all the belts.

He could just fight Fury next after the Joshua fight, he keeps saying 1 face, 1 name and shyt but he won't take the fight when given a date, venue and opportunity. He would make far more than he's ever made in his life and if he wins he will be the king and be able to dictate what happens.

Will be very disappointed if he doesn't take the fight cause if 1 of them loses before and it's not for the belts and the undefeated records it will take away some of the magnitude of the fight, though it would always be interesting.

There's so much back and forth, it could be settled all next year, all they gotta do is do Wilder vs Joshua and winner fights Fury, then you get 2 mega fights with huge stakes.

Really hope this happens but Widler's words suggest he's not really looking for it unfortunately...

 

[patscorpio]

I think Thurman was hoping the other WW’s beat each other up while he was on hiatus, but boxing is such a slow ass moving sport, the division is almost the same since he’s been gone.

this is a big part of the reason why i say 147 is not one of the best divisions in boxing...shyt they didnt even produce a fight worthy of being a FOTY candidate this year

 

[theflyest]

this is a big part of the reason why i say 147 is not one of the best divisions in boxing...shyt they didnt even produce a fight worthy of being a FOTY candidate this year

It's a top heavy division, and the champions just have too many options IMO.

When I look at the division, there really is no incentive to take the tough fights.

You could go around making decent money fighting past prime "named" guys like Alexander, Collazo, Victor Oriz, Berto, Josesito Lopez, Robert Guerrero (fought this month), Mike Alvardo, Chris Algeri, etc.

Then you got some decent fighters like Broner, Khan, Garcia, Peterson, and Vargas.

I think this is what Thurman understands. Why the hell should I fight Spence, Crawford, and Porter again when I can fight these nyggas over here? He could fight guys like Broner & Khan which would bring in ratings.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Wilder has the opportunity to fight Joshua now but if he's being genuine it seems like he's not looking to take the fight. It's a shame because could have an undisputed champion and a huge historic fight for all the belts.

He could just fight Fury next after the Joshua fight, he keeps saying 1 face, 1 name and shyt but he won't take the fight when given a date, venue and opportunity. He would make far more than he's ever made in his life and if he wins he will be the king and be able to dictate what happens.

Will be very disappointed if he doesn't take the fight cause if 1 of them loses before and it's not for the belts and the undefeated records it will take away some of the magnitude of the fight, though it would always be interesting.

There's so much back and forth, it could be settled all next year, all they gotta do is do Wilder vs Joshua and winner fights Fury, then you get 2 mega fights with huge stakes.

Really hope this happens but Widler's words suggest he's not really looking for it unfortunately...

Blame Eddie Hearn and Ass Juice.. Had they offered what they claim they're offering right now(a fair offer) earlier this year we wouldn't be going through this. They wanted to lie and play little hoe games in the media. Now they have to wait until Wilder and Fury finish they're series

 

[reservoirdogs]

Blame Eddie Hearn and Ass Juice.. Had they offered what they claim they're offering right now(a fair offer) earlier this year we wouldn't be going through this. They wanted to lie and play little hoe games in the media. Now they have to wait until Wilder and Fury finish they're series

Just cause they overplayed their hands and wanted to marinate too long doesn't mean that Wilder should be emotional about it instead of being rational. Or if not Wilder (I guess as a top athlete he fully trusts in his ability to beat Fury on the rematch) at least his team should have the smarts to do this shyt now before he would lose his zero. Boxing history doesn't like Wilder's chances in a Fury rematch rematches tend to favor the boxer, add that this was Fury's first fight back in the big league (not counting those two tune ups where he was clowning more than actually boxing but still won easily) and you get Fury as a clear favorite for the rematch.

Wilder has more chance beating AJ imo although he also has more chance of getting destroyed in a quick fashion. But a loss is a loss at the end of the day whether it is by decision or KO barring some bad career altering beatings and at the end of the day Joshua is still for 4 belts and the biggest money out for him. Ruler's right in that the winner can fight Fury after especially that Fury might be ok with fighting someone else in between based on what his trainer said so it's not even like Wilder would be put on a blast if he fights AJ instead of Fury again.

 

[trick]

It’s not for that though. There’s no US TV deal to view this. This is Floyd getting a bag for some sparring. Even Mayweather Promotions isn’t touching this. Some random streaming app will probably have it, remembers it’s not going on record.

Yep, everything but the Floyd/Tenshin fight is on FITE (same app that streamed Golden Boy's first MMA card). Floyd/Tenshin is only on Fuji TV in Japan. We're gonna have to watch the Fuji TV stream Monday morning.

 

[theflyest]

I think Wilder & Fury could milk their fight for the entire 2019 if they truly wanted to.

 

[morris]

Yep, everything but the Floyd/Tenshin fight is on FITE (same app that streamed Golden Boy's first MMA card). Floyd/Tenshin is only on Fuji TV in Japan. We're gonna have to watch the Fuji TV stream Monday morning.

Link when it drops plz

 

[The Ruler 09]

Blame Eddie Hearn and Ass Juice.. Had they offered what they claim they're offering right now(a fair offer) earlier this year we wouldn't be going through this. They wanted to lie and play little hoe games in the media. Now they have to wait until Wilder and Fury finish they're series

Both camps say vastly different things so it's hard to know what's accurate at times, however it seems pretty clear now that AJ wants the fight, but it seems like Wilder doesn't. What's happened in the past really should be irrelevant because the fight seems like it CAN happen now, AJ has the date set and Widler and Fury isn't mandatory, so it's free to be done. I don't see any reason Wilder can't fight Fury after AJ, if he wins it only makes the rematch bigger. If Wilder's stance is real and not a negotiation tactic makes me question how much he really wants to be undisputed champion or how much he wants the AJ fight, he's literally 1 fight away against Joshua from his dream and goal that he says he has always had, winning that would put him on top of the mountain and be an achievement that is historic and extremely rare, so to pick another fight instead of it seems weird, especially as that fight isn't going anywhere. Not sure if is self doubt or what but it seems like he doesn't want it after he's always said that's his goal. The longer that match takes to happen to more it's put in jeopardy, if 1 of them loses the belts or their undefeated record it takes a lot away from the fight. If Wilder and Fury fight again before the AJ fight it will diminish the loser slightly too which would be a shame either way cause they are huge fights against AJ. There's other matches in the division that would be really good too. Wilder seems to be making noise about fighting Breazeale now.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Just cause they overplayed their hands and wanted to marinate too long doesn't mean that Wilder should be emotional about it instead of being rational. Or if not Wilder (I guess as a top athlete he fully trusts in his ability to beat Fury on the rematch) at least his team should have the smarts to do this shyt now before he would lose his zero. Boxing history doesn't like Wilder's chances in a Fury rematch rematches tend to favor the boxer, add that this was Fury's first fight back in the big league (not counting those two tune ups where he was clowning more than actually boxing but still won easily) and you get Fury as a clear favorite for the rematch.

Wilder has more chance beating AJ imo although he also has more chance of getting destroyed in a quick fashion. But a loss is a loss at the end of the day whether it is by decision or KO barring some bad career altering beatings and at the end of the day Joshua is still for 4 belts and the biggest money out for him. Ruler's right in that the winner can fight Fury after especially that Fury might be ok with fighting someone else in between based on what his trainer said so it's not even like Wilder would be put on a blast if he fights AJ instead of Fury again.

If Wilder has more chance of beating AJ then you should respect his decision to go after Fury to settle the score instead. Ass Juice can wait.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Both camps say vastly different things so it's hard to know what's accurate at times, however it seems pretty clear now that AJ wants the fight, but it seems like Wilder doesn't.

What do you mean it "seems" clear??. Wilder has outright said he not thinking about AJ and his focus now is Tyson Fury.. Especially since the last fight was a draw... Also.. Why all of a sudden now does it seem AJ wants the fight, but not before. Gotta ask yourself these questions

What's happened in the past really should be irrelevant because the fight seems like it CAN happen now, AJ has the date set and Widler and Fury isn't mandatory, so it's free to be done.

It's not irrelevant though. What happened in the past is how why we're where we are today.. Had Ass Juice and Eddie set the date and venue before instead of playing games Fury wouldn't even be a factor right now.. Now they have to wait. SIMPLE AS THAT


Bottom line is this..
When Wilder was hung ho abput making this fight with AJ, them dudes were on their bullsgit.. You cant fault the man for losing interest.. Why yall thought Wilder was supposed to chase after AJ forever like ggg was chasing Canelo?? Hell nah

 

[patscorpio]

What do you mean it "seems" clear??. Wilder has outright said he not thinking about AJ and his focus now is Tyson Fury.. Especially since the last fight was a draw... Also.. Why all of a sudden now does it seem AJ wants the fight, but not before. Gotta ask yourself these questions


It's not irrelevant though. What happened in the past is how why we're where we are today.. Had Ass Juice and Eddie set the date and venue before instead of playing games Fury wouldn't even be a factor right now.. Now they have to wait. SIMPLE AS THAT


Bottom line is this..
When Wilder was hung ho abput making this fight with AJ, them dudes were on their bullsgit.. You cant fault the man for losing interest.. Why yall thought Wilder was supposed to chase after AJ forever like ggg was chasing Canelo?? Hell nah

Looks like somebody is gung ho about fury fighting deontay bailey again....my how times change

 

[reservoirdogs]

If Wilder has more chance of beating AJ then you should respect his decision to go after Fury to settle the score instead. Ass Juice can wait.

Keep justifying irrational shyt then

 

[Bigblackted4]

Wilder has the opportunity to fight Joshua now but if he's being genuine it seems like he's not looking to take the fight. It's a shame because could have an undisputed champion and a huge historic fight for all the belts.

He could just fight Fury next after the Joshua fight, he keeps saying 1 face, 1 name and shyt but he won't take the fight when given a date, venue and opportunity. He would make far more than he's ever made in his life and if he wins he will be the king and be able to dictate what happens.

Will be very disappointed if he doesn't take the fight cause if 1 of them loses before and it's not for the belts and the undefeated records it will take away some of the magnitude of the fight, though it would always be interesting.

There's so much back and forth, it could be settled all next year, all they gotta do is do Wilder vs Joshua and winner fights Fury, then you get 2 mega fights with huge stakes.

Really hope this happens but Widler's words suggest he's not really looking for it unfortunately...

So it’s Wilder fought again

 

[Bigblackted4]

It's a top heavy division, and the champions just have too many options IMO.

When I look at the division, there really is no incentive to take the tough fights.

You could go around making decent money fighting past prime "named" guys like Alexander, Collazo, Victor Oriz, Berto, Josesito Lopez, Robert Guerrero (fought this month), Mike Alvardo, Chris Algeri, etc.

Then you got some decent fighters like Broner, Khan, Garcia, Peterson, and Vargas.

I think this is what Thurman understands. Why the hell should I fight Spence, Crawford, and Porter again when I can fight these nyggas over here? He could fight guys like Broner & Khan which would bring in ratings.

That doesn’t make it a good division just a profitable one