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[Black_Jesus]

Super-bantam. He was small even for that weight. After being in the line with him in the airport, I thought he was small but I didn't know he was that tiny. My cousin attended college with Muggsy Bogues @ Wake and I used to see him all the time. Rigo is listed as being taller than Bogues. That's BS.

same thing
And yea Rigo is too tiny.. Which is why Loma dont even wanna take credit for the win

 

[Skip b]

What fight were you watching? Outside of the punch he landed on Floyd before getting knocked down, Marquez landed landed nothing of significance for the rest of the fight. Marquez didn't break double digits landed in any round. He did worse than Corrales.



Super-bantam. He was small even for that weight. After being in the line with him in the airport, I thought he was small but I didn't know he was that tiny. My cousin attended college with Muggsy Bogues @ Wake and I used to see him all the time. Rigo is listed as being taller than Bogues. That's BS.



In other words, never-wills and never-hads.

Shout out to BloodBoxing.

JMM scraped Floyd with 3-5 overhand rights; Floyd was just ultra ssj mode and ate that shyt



Im not talking about fighting good, what is fighting good vs Floyd anyway.....Im comparing JMM 1st non roided 147 run to his 2nd; and as seen with the above his movements were still fluid, he still had them combos, Floyd just bested him there......Would love to see what a no roid JMM wouldve did at 140-147


I watch the fights though, actually watch

 

[reservoirdogs]

Pac looked good this weekend, aside of the "no VADA test" thing Matthysse really looked confused when he got hit from round one.
He is a slugger who got intimidated and turned backwards, no way back from there. In round 1 I already saw Matthysse gonna have major problems in this fight, he reacted very badly to punches, never ever saw him this confused getting hit to be honest. He just took 3 steps back with a high guard but shyt looked very unnatural. It was like his soul was completely gone in round 1.

Idk what Pac wanna do now, imo it's pretty meaningless to continue his career if he doesn't want the top guys but that's just my 2 cents and obviously it's his decision. I was kinda pissed that they couldn't get him to fight Crawford cause I'm a Bud fan but I'm over that, I doN't think they ever gonna fight, I think Pac gonna target that Khan fight and maybe get it too, it would be pretty entertaining to be fair.

Teofimo looked good but the ESPN ass kissing was over the top. They made it out like dude would be some surefire future HOF-er liek we didn't expect him blowing this guy out the water. His offense was indeed impressive but I still hold off my judgment about him until I see him with someone who's remotely dangerous and not someone who is expected to get beat down by him. His defense looks bad for instance just Silva didn't dare to do much and probably didn't have the power either had he tried. Now he is an offensive fighter so obviously he gonna get hit more but I need to see how his chin hold up.

Porgrais on the other hand as a not in-house fighter was criticised by the ESPN team a lot about his defense, I think his chin seems to be good based on what we know so far and he is also pretty good at slipping on the inside. His style is very risky though, no doubt, because he goes in the pocket with his hands down basically only relying on head movement in exchange his shots are a lot less predictable than if his hands would be up al the time. So far it paid off for him, I still think he gonna win the WBSS, his biggest challenge gonna be Taylor. I also think the winner of 140 WBSS gonna be the best at the weight, above Ramirez, Hooker and Saucedo (Lipinets too btw but I doN't list him since he's moving up). Look out for Shohjahon Ergashev though, guy seems to have the goods and he is on the cusp of becoming a title contender.

 

[patscorpio]

also maurice hooker and beterbiev joining the fray...plus with the wbss and shyt being on it...im going to have to get down with this DAZN wave

 

[patscorpio]

Ryan Garcia is an overrated prospect so far. I don't say he can't become a great fighter of his era cause he has the athletic abilities but he has a loooong way to go and not sure at all that he makes the road.

well he's in the 140 WBSS..he's about to be tested for sure

 

[Skip b]

Pac looked good this weekend, aside of the "no VADA test" thing Matthysse really looked confused when he got hit from round one.
He is a slugger who got intimidated and turned backwards, no way back from there. In round 1 I already saw Matthysse gonna have major problems in this fight, he reacted very badly to punches, never ever saw him this confused getting hit to be honest. He just took 3 steps back with a high guard but shyt looked very unnatural. It was like his soul was completely gone in round 1.

Idk what Pac wanna do now, imo it's pretty meaningless to continue his career if he doesn't want the top guys but that's just my 2 cents and obviously it's his decision. I was kinda pissed that they couldn't get him to fight Crawford cause I'm a Bud fan but I'm over that, I doN't think they ever gonna fight, I think Pac gonna target that Khan fight and maybe get it too, it would be pretty entertaining to be fair.

Teofimo looked good but the ESPN ass kissing was over the top. They made it out like dude would be some surefire future HOF-er liek we didn't expect him blowing this guy out the water. His offense was indeed impressive but I still hold off my judgment about him until I see him with someone who's remotely dangerous and not someone who is expected to get beat down by him. His defense looks bad for instance just Silva didn't dare to do much and probably didn't have the power either had he tried. Now he is an offensive fighter so obviously he gonna get hit more but I need to see how his chin hold up.

Porgrais on the other hand as a not in-house fighter was criticised by the ESPN team a lot about his defense, I think his chin seems to be good based on what we know so far and he is also pretty good at slipping on the inside. His style is very risky though, no doubt, because he goes in the pocket with his hands down basically only relying on head movement in exchange his shots are a lot less predictable than if his hands would be up al the time. So far it paid off for him, I still think he gonna win the WBSS, his biggest challenge gonna be Taylor. I also think the winner of 140 WBSS gonna be the best at the weight, above Ramirez, Hooker and Saucedo (Lipinets too btw but I doN't list him since he's moving up). Look out for Shohjahon Ergashev though, guy seems to have the goods and he is on the cusp of becoming a title contender.

Manny lil nikka'd him there, if yall dont know what that mean, Manny wouldnt even allow touch shots to touch him, he'd either back up, whimsically lean to the right and shot a vicious right hook, or to the left and a head snapping left hand......Some buttery slick type shyt; truth be told Manny been a top defensive fighter since JMM; Horn was a anominally; as Manny decided to play the first 5 rounds.......

 

[reservoirdogs]

well he's in the 140 WBSS..he's about to be tested for sure

Don't you mix him up with someone now?

Prograis
Taylor
Relikh
Baranchyk
Yigit
Martin
Flanagan
Troyanvoski

to my knowledge these are the 8 participants in 140 WBSS

 

[Skip b]

Pac looked good this weekend, aside of the "no VADA test" thing Matthysse really looked confused when he got hit from round one.
He is a slugger who got intimidated and turned backwards, no way back from there. In round 1 I already saw Matthysse gonna have major problems in this fight, he reacted very badly to punches, never ever saw him this confused getting hit to be honest. He just took 3 steps back with a high guard but shyt looked very unnatural. It was like his soul was completely gone in round 1.

Idk what Pac wanna do now, imo it's pretty meaningless to continue his career if he doesn't want the top guys but that's just my 2 cents and obviously it's his decision. I was kinda pissed that they couldn't get him to fight Crawford cause I'm a Bud fan but I'm over that, I doN't think they ever gonna fight, I think Pac gonna target that Khan fight and maybe get it too, it would be pretty entertaining to be fair.

Teofimo looked good but the ESPN ass kissing was over the top. They made it out like dude would be some surefire future HOF-er liek we didn't expect him blowing this guy out the water. His offense was indeed impressive but I still hold off my judgment about him until I see him with someone who's remotely dangerous and not someone who is expected to get beat down by him. His defense looks bad for instance just Silva didn't dare to do much and probably didn't have the power either had he tried. Now he is an offensive fighter so obviously he gonna get hit more but I need to see how his chin hold up.

Porgrais on the other hand as a not in-house fighter was criticised by the ESPN team a lot about his defense, I think his chin seems to be good based on what we know so far and he is also pretty good at slipping on the inside. His style is very risky though, no doubt, because he goes in the pocket with his hands down basically only relying on head movement in exchange his shots are a lot less predictable than if his hands would be up al the time. So far it paid off for him, I still think he gonna win the WBSS, his biggest challenge gonna be Taylor. I also think the winner of 140 WBSS gonna be the best at the weight, above Ramirez, Hooker and Saucedo (Lipinets too btw but I doN't list him since he's moving up). Look out for Shohjahon Ergashev though, guy seems to have the goods and he is on the cusp of becoming a title contender.

The 180 pound welter wanted Manny to come to 140; he dont deserve a Manny fight no more


Fukk outta here

 

[reservoirdogs]

Manny lil nikka'd him there, if yall dont know what that mean, Manny wouldnt even allow touch shots to touch him, he'd either back up, whimsically lean to the right and shot a vicious right hook, or to the left and a head snapping left hand......Some buttery slick type shyt; truth be told Manny been a top defensive fighter since JMM; Horn was a anominally; as Manny decided to play the first 5 rounds.......

I wouldn't call him a top defensive fighter but otherwise I agree

 

[patscorpio]

Don't you mix him up with someone now?

Prograis
Taylor
Relikh
Baranchyk
Yigit
Martin
Flanagan
Troyanvoski

to my knowledge these are the 8 participants in 140 WBSS

i did lol..i mixed him up with martin...

 

[reservoirdogs]

The 180 pound welter wanted Manny to come to 140; he dont deserve a Manny fight no more


Fukk outta here

they wanted Manny in 147 latest, Pac and Roach didn't want it

once it's in 147 it's basically whether they want it or not and they didn't
I'm not with the weight bully talk, there are only fighters who can make a certain weight and those who can't. Pacquiao fought and beat multiple guys in his career who were bigger than Bud and if he feels to be too small for the elite 147ers then maybe he shouldn't be in 147. But that's not the reason why they turned down the fight. Roach. admitted multiple times that Crawford is just all bad for Pac style wise other than the obvious fact that Pac is past his prime.

 

[Skip b]

I wouldn't call him a top defensive fighter but otherwise I agree

I dont know muthafukker been looking slick the last 5 years in spite of his stripes.....


Nikka fought a technical fight vs Floyd at the highest level; made Floyd switch game plans like 3 times there; made the muthfukker stop jabbing and start shooting left hooks exclusively as he had the ability to lean and counter with that straight left......Watch, watch these fights brehs.....Manny really aint slip too much from his prime, Manny issue was always a fear(not fighting someone he sees as a threat) and interest thing

 

[patscorpio]

i thought toney won this fight on some 115-112 shyt but i also thought peter was tagging him with some serious shots when he landed

toney lost the rematch though clear as a day

 

[reservoirdogs]

i did lol..i mixed him up with martin...

Prograis and Taylor are the obvious favorites but it's gonna be interesting cause almost all the other guys are wild cards, dark horses who we can't be sure what to expect from

Baranchyk, Yigit, Martin, Relikh... all in this category

First 3 just simply too untested to know for sure and Relikh has a new found confidence after his impressive fights against Barthelemy. His L to Burns seems to be the past now but obviously it's still a blemish.

I don't expect much from Troyanovski and Flanagan though... we know what they can do and we know it won't cut it

 

[patscorpio]

Prograis and Taylor are the obvious favorites but it's gonna be interesting cause almost all the other guys are wild cards, dark horses who we can't be sure what to expect from

Baranchyk, Yigit, Martin, Relikh... all in this category

First 3 just simply too untested to know for sure and Relikh has a new found confidence after his impressive fights against Barthelemy. His L to Burns seems to be the past now but obviously it's still a blemish.

I don't expect much from Troyanovski and Flanagan though... we know what they can do and we know it won't cut it

troyanosky chin has a little china in it but he can punch...flanagan though...he gets past whoever hes facing in the opening fight..it will be because of experience factor which he has