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[Black_Jesus]

*yawn* Rigo offered to go up to his weight and Loma specifically stated that he deserves no credit for that win and that people would make that very excuse. Rigo, on the other hand, stated that there were no excuses and that he was going to make history. We all saw how that turned out. Not to mention the fact that If you actually watched the fight without bias then you would have clearly seen that Loma shut him down in every way possible - and it ain’t have shyt to do with weight.

It had plenty to do with size.. Rigo got desperate and offered to go upto his weight because that was the only way he would get the fight, after multiple attempts of trying to get Loma to meet halfway.. Loma refused EVERY time..

 

[Tflasha]

Based off style Swift is the only that knocks his head clean off.....Spence and TC are accumulation fighters; I dont favor anyone in a dogfight vs Manny not named JMM, even Floyd had to respect those hands in the ring, when he tried to get cute with the hands down.....

If Brooks could befuddle Spence 6 rounds, Manny would give him 8 clean ones

If Gamboa the only nikka with speed and athleticism TC faced had him on Jelly legs, how he gonna react, with the quickest/ deadliest hands in the sport......



Neither Spence nor TC has fought anyone worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things, they dont just get victories over Manny just cause; especially when one already flat out ducked Manny.......Spence and TC gets their ass kissed but im not seeing the intangible talent, the combos Oscar had, Tito Pop, Mayweather speed/Defense, Mosley explosiveness, these young boys just doesnt have the levels these days.......All they have is size at this point, otherwise I havent seen shyt

Brook was the biggest welterweight in the division - nobody wanted smoke with kell and spence traveled to hostile territory and weathered them 6rounds and went to work... manny is losing to everybody in the top five - come on fam.. if this was 5years ago if would be different. manny couldnt keep horn out his face, but he can get spence and crawford up off of him??????

 

[87 others]

It had plenty to do with size.. Rigo got desperate and offered to go upto his weight because that was the only way he would get the fight, after multiple attempts of trying to get Loma to meet halfway.. Loma refused EVERY time..

That’s flat out bullshyt - weight had nothing to do with it. Loma said multiple times that there was no reason for him to fight Rigo because of the size difference. He was working on moving up to 135 - no point dehydrating himself for a fight he didn’t even want. Rigo kept barking and barking about how he’ll do this, that, and the third to Loma at his own weight and proceeded to get outclassed on skills. Loma didn’t bully him with weight or even try to rough him up - he simply had no answer for the activity.

 

[patscorpio]

Neither Spence nor TC has fought anyone worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things, they dont just get victories over Manny just cause; especially when one already flat out ducked Manny.......Spence and TC gets their ass kissed but im not seeing the intangible talent, the combos Oscar had, Tito Pop, Mayweather speed/Defense, Mosley explosiveness, these young boys just doesnt have the levels these days.......All they have is size at this point, otherwise I havent seen shyt

the bolded i agree with regarding welters..thats because there's not enough of them mixing it up...and swift is def included in that...in fact im sure he gets beaten clearly by pac more than the others..dude is basic

 

[Black_Jesus]

That’s flat out bullshyt -

weight had nothing to do with it.


Loma said multiple times that there was no reason for him to fight Rigo because of the size difference

dude stop it
Even Loma is telling you you're wrong

 

[Black_Jesus]

Meanwhile Loma is bodying dudes at 135, yet you wanna believe suze wasn't a factor vs a career junior featherweight who was small for that class

 

[Black_Jesus]

Brook was the biggest welterweight in the division - nobody wanted smoke with kell and spence traveled to hostile territory and weathered them 6rounds and went to work... manny is losing to everybody in the top five - come on fam.. if this was 5years ago if would be different. manny couldnt keep horn out his face, but he can get spence and crawford up off of him??????

So Kell Brook was the boogeyman at 147?

When did this occur?

 

[RoidJonesJr]

 

[Skip b]

Brook was the biggest welterweight in the division - nobody wanted smoke with kell and spence traveled to hostile territory and weathered them 6rounds and went to work... manny is losing to everybody in the top five - come on fam.. if this was 5years ago if would be different. manny couldnt keep horn out his face, but he can get spence and crawford up off of him??????

Nobody wanted no smoke with Brooks, fukk outta here; it was Brooks avoiding the Welter wieght division along with Keith.......Brook still pump faking on a Khan fight


Horn aint use hands to keep Manny off him, the rough house tactics Horn did bothered him, that has been Manny's weakness since Sanchez.....Act like Manny aint send Horn to the hospital

the bolded i agree with regarding welters..thats because there's not enough of them mixing it up...and swift is def included in that...in fact im sure he gets beaten clearly by pac more than the others..dude is basic

Naw Manny other weakness outside of getting dirty with him is a natural counterpuncher, and Swift is one at the elite level.....A half ass punch like the below may have the goodnight on it, if Manny lose focus once....

Both TC get hit too much and spence loads up on his shots too much for Manny...Now TC has runner in him he can frustrate Manny, but Spence can he remain focused enough to sit back and outbox Manny; who has spence outboxed, he a brawler and needed everything and the kitchen sink for Brook; on top of a eye injury and like I said I dont favor anyone in a fire fight vs Manny as he still has the speed pop and angles......

 

[Skip b]

That’s flat out bullshyt - weight had nothing to do with it. Loma said multiple times that there was no reason for him to fight Rigo because of the size difference. He was working on moving up to 135 - no point dehydrating himself for a fight he didn’t even want. @newzz kept barking and barking about how he’ll do this, that, and the third to Loma at his own weight and proceeded to get outclassed on skills. Loma didn’t bully him with weight or even try to rough him up - he simply had no answer for the activity.

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Cause a boxer you "randomly" dikkride, to catch the asswhooping of their life brehs

 

[Skip b]

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

 

[reservoirdogs]

Ryan Garcia is an overrated prospect so far. I don't say he can't become a great fighter of his era cause he has the athletic abilities but he has a loooong way to go and not sure at all that he makes the road. Devin Haney was a lot more convincing to me, so was Shakur Stevenson or Joshua Buatsi. Just to name some top prospects.

I know they boost their soc media profile with these petty twitter/insta beefs but Tank too should rather focus on getting a good opponent in the ring again. I'd like to see him vs Berchelt or even him vs Farmer or Machado.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Roman is a pretty good signing imo, Jesse Vargas is not an elite guy or anything but can be an entertaining fighter when he wants to be.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

Wouldve whooped Bradley ass 10/10 days a week if not for roiding....

JMM aint look bad at his first run at 147, he just was fighting Floyd, he hit Floyd with as much flush shots as anyone; his hands and movement was still fluid during that first 147 pre roiding run

What fight were you watching? Outside of the punch he landed on Floyd before getting knocked down, Marquez landed landed nothing of significance for the rest of the fight. Marquez didn't break double digits landed in any round. He did worse than Corrales.

Meanwhile Loma is bodying dudes at 135, yet you wanna believe suze wasn't a factor vs a career junior featherweight who was small for that class

Super-bantam. He was small even for that weight. After being in the line with him in the airport, I thought he was small but I didn't know he was that tiny. My cousin attended college with Muggsy Bogues @ Wake and I used to see him all the time. Rigo is listed as being taller than Bogues. That's BS.

In other words, never-wills and never-hads.

Shout out to BloodBoxing.