Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[HeruDat1]

Garcia..needs some more work...let him get more seasoning by beating on some jobbers...they need to stop focusing on the female following of the guy and stop the social media bullshyt for a while...if you rush him into a title fight he will get ko'ed badly

19 year old sold about 6,500 tix on a Friday headlining on ESPN. Whatever he’s doing on social media is working. It was still just a lot of Mexican/Latino men/teens there, young crowd. He’ll never beat Shakur Haney or Tank imo tho.

Shakur should be getting this treatment on TR

 

[GzUp]

Rewatched the fight, the dad didn’t do a good job at giving instructions.. tell him to open up?? I mean I know what he’s trying to say but what about telling him go to the body, use the jab, set something up.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Rewatched the fight, the dad didn’t do a good job at giving instructions.. tell him to open up?? I mean I know what he’s trying to say but what about telling him go to the body, use the jab, set something up.

and also what about telling him to tuck his chin and bend his legs...

kid has a really nice handspeed and seems like has good power but seeing that he lacks fundamental shyt like that

anything can happen though... Wladimir Klitschko was stiff as hell and also held up his chin high and he got punished for it 3 times, then he reinvented himself and ruled the HW division for a decade... and this guy is 19 and so far doesn't need to reinvent himself just simply improve and improve... if they wanna fast track him he gonna run into some brutal loss I agree with Pat.
Idk how far he can go if he is built slowly but even if he only reaches contender level it would at least happen with knowing they did the build up correctly and he won't become a "what if..."

now if somebody would say that other fighters like Porter or Hurd are successful without not giving a shyt about some fundamentals that is true but they have unorthodoxy instead and that's a double edged sword, it serves as an advantage to them and as a disadvantage at the same time, the flaws are still flaws but at least they are built into their style of fighting and they allow other things to shine. The same can't be said about simple defensive flaws like chin being up in the air...

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Interesting stuff from Breadman:

4. I think GGG will fight Canelo. It’s better for his pockets for sure, not sure about his legacy. But here is the thing. Everyone seems to be waiting to fight GGG or Canelo. But while they wait they should fight each other to become the real next guy. There are about 6 or 7 guys at middleweight that should start fighting each other. GGG is 36 and Canelo is still the cash cow. Neither of those guys will be able to fight everyone that is calling them out.

5. You already know how I feel about Nonito. But I think his slippage is right on track for a clean fighter that is 35 and fighting at a smaller weight. I also think Nonito had extraordinary physical gifts. I think he relied on them more so than even Roy Jones. Nonito’s answer to everything was land his hook. He could box but he was an athletic display and not a skill display like say a Pernell Whitaker. I love the guy but the reality is, skill last longer than athleticism.

6. What a great piece on Manny. Naazim Richardson actually told me the same thing. He told me that Pacquiao’s hands felt like bricks. He couldn’t believe how compact and hard they were when he examined them before the Mosley fight. He told me he actually warned Shane Mosely about them. That study actually reveals some interesting things. Bone density is very important for many reasons. I never looked at it in the stamina perspective but I always did in the punching power, physicality and ability to take a punch perspective. It actually makes perfect sense. That’s what I call some good research.

 

[krackdagawd]

Shakur should be getting this treatment on TR

Big facts

 

[GzUp]

and also what about telling him to tuck his chin and bend his legs...

kid has a really nice handspeed and seems like has good power but seeing that he lacks fundamental shyt like that

anything can happen though... Wladimir Klitschko was stiff as hell and also held up his chin high and he got punished for it 3 times, then he reinvented himself and ruled the HW division for a decade... and this guy is 19 and so far doesn't need to reinvent himself just simply improve and improve... if they wanna fast track him he gonna run into some brutal loss I agree with Pat.
Idk how far he can go if he is built slowly but even if he only reaches contender level it would at least happen with knowing they did the build up correctly and he won't become a "what if..."

now if somebody would say that other fighters like Porter or Hurd are successful without not giving a shyt about some fundamentals that is true but they have unorthodoxy instead and that's a double edged sword, it serves as an advantage to them and as a disadvantage at the same time, the flaws are still flaws but at least they are built into their style of fighting and they allow other things to shine. The same can't be said about simple defensive flaws like chin being up in the air...

Wlad had skills from the get go, all time jab and left hook, the power was just a plus(devastating power)

Porter and Hurd style is a pro winning style, I would say it’s a Mexican stlye tbh.

All I’ve seen with Garcia is power, but ten again idk how much power he really has. He finally stepped up and his kos already stopped.
So basically all I’ve seen is speed with the right and left hook.

Oscar was by far way more polished and impressive, I remember being convinced in one round.

 

[1970s HeRon Flow]

Covered my first fight with media credentials. The reps at Golden Boy Promotions were good to work with, encouraged me to show for their June 1st card. Got to interview BHop at weigh-ins. Met some people, fights were short. The people were flip floppin. They wanted him, they got him, then they started doing the wave and booing late in the fight. Then they would cheer when Ryan land. Then they booed him after the fight lol.

Lot of latinos of course, lot of women and girls. The Boxing Media is...interesting.

What's up best friend

 

[HeruDat1]

Big facts

Yeah and I know Stevenson is looking at both Conlan and Garcia getting that treatment. He seems like he'll use that for motivation tho

 

[The axe murderer]

Ryan Garcia reminds me of Amir Khan & his hype starting off

Thing is khan's hype before prescott blew him out was legit though. Doing what he did at the olympics at his age was phenomenal
No way he was gonna get past a great like kindelain but breh. Idk about Garcia at this stage but that chin up in the air like that and he wants tank?

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

Garcia..needs some more work...let him get more seasoning by beating on some jobbers...they need to stop focusing on the female following of the guy and stop the social media bullshyt for a while...if you rush him into a title fight he will get ko'ed badly

I sense a Fernando Vargas 2.0

 

[HeruDat1]

SOG

 

[Bigblackted4]

SOG

Either

 

[aceboon]

SOG

100% pure facts, AW needs a monthly show where he just chops it up on boxing, he articulates all the points perfectly. Needed AW pressing Abel on this instead of Dontae from DBN cuz he was letting him off the hook and dropping the ball when he had him on to discuss that dumb shyt.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[Bigblackted4]