Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

[Reptile]

Daylyt said he'd do a 2 on 2 with Lux. I could see them doing that just to build back up the anticipation for their match.

Im down with a 2 on 2 after these nikkas battle. shyt gone be weird seeing nikkas attack each others moral compass after trading off green tea and cosmos schemes..

 

[TripleAgent]

had to pause right there, you just named a bunch of people who shot themselves in the foot repeatedly when it mattered in their careers. so no they didn't put on solid to great performances every time out and that's exactly why they aren't close. Yall were just saying how Lux looked at JC against illmac/twork etc. and didn't wanna battle him anymore, that was his own fault, we aint see gotti do that.

The man paid attention to any complaints fans had and adjusted his style accordingly for the most part. JC had fans rallying against him for his style change that ended up getting him beatend and moved out the paint. Cortez still making the same mistakes being corny and unlikable in ugly losses, Danny Myers giving concrete carl 3 crazy rounds then crying telling Smack he's tired because he decided to battle every week. A ward has no impact and doesn't seem to be doing anything to create a situation to prove that he is that, luckily gotti is letting him get a rematch, maybe he can do something.

these nikkas all did it to themselves by not paying attention and takin the shyt seriously every time and imo that's work ethic the ONLY anomaly about gotti imo is he had the certified crip gangbangin west coast background before he started this. Can't recreate that

The truth is somewhere in the middle. Gotti is having ehh matches with Snake Eyez, he's not making 100% right moves. He's the Chosen One. They gave him the push Mike Privilege and NJT fumbled, and ran with it. URL suddenly operating in California helped a LOT, too.

 

[FreshAIG]

had to pause right there, you just named a bunch of people who shot themselves in the foot repeatedly when it mattered in their careers. so no they didn't put on solid to great performances every time out and that's exactly why they aren't close. Yall were just saying how Lux looked at JC against illmac/twork etc. and didn't wanna battle him anymore, that was his own fault, we aint see gotti do that.

The man paid attention to any complaints fans had and adjusted his style accordingly for the most part. JC had fans rallying against him for his style change that ended up getting him beatend and moved out the paint. Cortez still making the same mistakes being corny and unlikable in ugly losses, Danny Myers giving concrete carl 3 crazy rounds then crying telling Smack he's tired because he decided to battle every week. A ward has no impact and doesn't seem to be doing anything to create a situation to prove that he is that, luckily gotti is letting him get a rematch, maybe he can do something.

these nikkas all did it to themselves by not paying attention and takin the shyt seriously every time and imo that's work ethic the ONLY anomaly about gotti imo is he had the certified crip gangbangin west coast background before he started this. Can't recreate that

But to me, that goes back to brand protection. JC never had a bad performance, he took loses, so did Gotti. But the differences how and where and who they took the loses against is what separates them.

The main thing that separated Geechi from the rest was simply how he was promoted by the brand and put in the light, even if he had loses and debatable. Of course he had the Crip/West Coast component that URL lacked that helped greatly. That can't be denied. But outside of Gotti, there isn't another battler that battles a lot that maintained their status or grew. Even legends like Arsonal are kinda looked at like stepping stone battlers because he's made his brand lose a lot of it's power by battling a lot. An Ars battle on a card now is low-key just filler. Only way he'll ever main event a big URL card again is against a god-tier type name or an industry rapper.

 

[AveRocca]

How many Lyt performances have been dope over the past five years? Genuinely asking. Roc for sure but what else? Man was battling Bangz, Loso and Oops not too long ago and now he’s pretending to turn down Shine and Lux on massive cards?

 

[AveRocca]

But on this here earth stage, you have become a mermaid, today you gotta fend (fin) for yourself.

shyt stinks

 

[FreshAIG]

How many Lyt performances have been dope over the past five years? Genuinely asking. Roc for sure but what else? Man was battling Bangz, Loso and Oops not too long ago and now he’s pretending to turn down Shine and Lux on massive cards?

Like 2

 

[Reptile]

How many Lyt performances have been dope over the past five years? Genuinely asking. Roc for sure but what else? Man was battling Bangz, Loso and Oops not too long ago and now he’s pretending to turn down Shine and Lux on massive cards?

But on this here earth stage, you have become a mermaid, today you gotta fend (fin) for yourself.

shyt stinks

Hi

 

[T-K-G]

But to me, that goes back to brand protection. JC never had a bad performance, he took loses, so did Gotti. But the differences how and where and who they took the loses against is what separates them.

The main thing that separated Geechi from the rest was simply how he was promoted by the brand and put in the light, even if he had loses and debatable. Of course he had the Crip/West Coast component that URL lacked that helped greatly. That can't be denied. But outside of Gotti, there isn't another battler that battles a lot that maintained their status or grew. Even legends like Arsonal are kinda looked at like stepping stone battlers because he's made his brand lose a lot of it's power by battling a lot. An Ars battle on a card now is low-key just filler. Only way he'll ever main event a big URL card again is against a god-tier type name or an industry rapper.

JC literally looked bad against Twork/Illmac who we noted informed Lux's decision, also in front of a super regular Yung Ill when he first had a chance to take the leap. He was aware of his situation in both instances and dropped the ball. wouldn't brand protection fall under paying attention? he wasnt protecting his brand with the slow flow either. When you "pay attention" you adjust your bad habits like...opening your eyes when you rap, or...stepping up to the challenge to rebuttal to the point where you're one of the top rebuttalers now, that's the separating factor between them for me, and yea like you said even being aware of which battles are make or break for you, Julian failed on all accounts bro, idk maybe im being a bit tough about it but it is what it is


arsonal is spitting filler and losing is why people don't wanna see him no one would have a problem seeing Ars if he was giving us dope rounds


Tay Roc throws a wrench in your argument too, another guy who just treats this shyt with respect like a job and it worked. I can't make excuses for the rest of these nikkas spitting filler when we already know the majority of em are writing their rounds right before the events anyways man, we seen too many of these guys make the same mistakes to make excuses for it. Roc can have a clear lost but still do enough to make people wanna see more, i think all of them have the talent to do that they just don't

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Daylyt said he'd do a 2 on 2 with Lux. I could see them doing that just to build back up the anticipation for their match.

Them teaming up for a battle would be cool.

I’d be specifically intrigued by the impact of them both learning from eachother by watching one another write. And how that collaboration will change their OWN style.

 

[TripleAgent]

Them teaming up for a battle would be cool.

I’d be specifically intrigued by the impact of them both learning from eachother by watching one another write. And how that collaboration will change their OWN style.

Will Lux ever give in and just spit? Between the 2 on 2 and Flex, we know he could win all these battles clear, but he's too insistent on doing the same style. I still think he won damn near all of them since Mook 2, but he could have smoked almost all of them and left no doubt.

 

[MJ Truth]

had to pause right there, you just named a bunch of people who shot themselves in the foot repeatedly when it mattered in their careers. so no they didn't put on solid to great performances every time out and that's exactly why they aren't close. Yall were just saying how Lux looked at JC against illmac/twork etc. and didn't wanna battle him anymore, that was his own fault, we aint see gotti do that.

The man paid attention to any complaints fans had and adjusted his style accordingly for the most part. JC had fans rallying against him for his style change that ended up getting him beatend and moved out the paint. Cortez still making the same mistakes being corny and unlikable in ugly losses, Danny Myers giving concrete carl 3 crazy rounds then crying telling Smack he's tired because he decided to battle every week. A ward has no impact and doesn't seem to be doing anything to create a situation to prove that he is that, luckily gotti is letting him get a rematch, maybe he can do something.

these nikkas all did it to themselves by not paying attention and takin the shyt seriously every time and imo that's work ethic the ONLY anomaly about gotti imo is he had the certified crip gangbangin west coast background before he started this. Can't recreate that

Yeah but that background is at least half of what makes Gotti popular. Sure, it’s his “skill” and work ethic, but look even through this thread, in every Geechi battle, people are saying he won because he was “believable”.

I don’t think this Gotti run is as easily replicable as you’re trying to make it seem, which is a testament to him and just circumstances. And Geechi gotta get a lot of credit for just not fukking it up, which a lot of guys would.

 

[MJ Truth]

How many Lyt performances have been dope over the past five years? Genuinely asking. Roc for sure but what else? Man was battling Bangz, Loso and Oops not too long ago and now he’s pretending to turn down Shine and Lux on massive cards?

Roc and that’s it.

 

[MJ Truth]

Will Lux ever give in and just spit? Between the 2 on 2 and Flex, we know he could win all these battles clear, but he's too insistent on doing the same style. I still think he won dapmn near all of them since Mook 2, but he could have smoked almost all of them and left no doubt.

The other part is if he just spit straight and didn’t try to pile so many hidden bars in there, he would probably have a much easier time remembering his shyt.

 

[Ardamus]

Being protective of your brand still matters. There's a lot of battlers with Geechi's worth ethic (Danny Myers, JC, Cortez, A Ward, etc..) they all put on solid to great performances every time out, and none of them are remotely close to Geechi name brand wise or status. So you can't say being overprotective is an excuse and that if a battler gives quality performances that battling a lot won't hurt them. That's simply not true. We've seen it. Geechi is more of an anomaly than the blueprint.

The URL latched on the Geechi as their main gunner once Twork became a liability. That's why he's been rewarded and his trajectory has gone how it's gone.

For someone like Goodz, he gives himself the ability to get bags from any league while at the same time maintaining his status on URL, so when he finally returns his name is still intact. The others will take battles and have debatable or lose to no-name/or big name nikkas on off-brand leagues, battle for little money, get little to no views and then come back to URL thinking URL about to give them whoever they want just because they put some metaphors together well. That's not how this works.

Goodz battles Gauge on Gorilla Warfare and gets 800K
Danny battles Mega Savage on Gorilla Warfare and 33K

There's a reason why Goodz comes back and main events and Danny still gotta battle these barely out the Crucible type nikkas.

But Danny wants that smoke and that’s what I like about him. Same time, it’s not the best business move either. Like when Mickey was telling Danny to move a certain way and not take the Real Sikh battle and he did then fukked around and took a L, that was overall bad for his business and etc. Even though he is known for that, he should been like aight time to pump the brakes and see what’s what.

 

[theflyest]

I think the issue with Daylyt before was Lux being hesitant and unsure of how serious Daylyt actually was.

That, and the fact that they both want to do the battle on their own terms, without a league in order to get the most bread, but don’t really have the infrastructure in place to do it. I’m pretty sure if they both were to just accept the battle being on URL (or another league I suppose) without question this battle would have gotten done this year. The way they’ve both talked about doing the battle, they would have to both be business partners and then battle.

Yes, Lux said that years ago. It was a valid point.

I don’t really think it should take that long to shop around the battle.

Im just not convinced Lux is that interested in the battle until I see it booked.