Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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A lot of times I've argued with brehs on here about battlers (specifically Mook & Lux) asking for big paydays and how its likely bankrupting leagues and stunting battle rap's growth. And the response is always sh1t like "If leagues couldn't afford it, they wouldn't do it", "leagues are still making $$", etc.

Anyway, Organik posted this on TalkBack today, very candid and very interesting



I figured leagues were losing money but never realized it was that much

I wonder how many times URL has lost on events and how much $$.

I guess Mook and Lux finally lowered their asking price as well as we've been seeing them on more cards in the last year or so.

Easy to forget about battle rap as a business sometimes. One that that I doubt is particularly profitable


This goes to show even more so as to why waste 40k on a mook battle when u can get better quality from the up and comers. Just doesn't make sense. Also shows why URL push the people they push. If they can get Twork or Geechi to sell out arenas and still only pay them 7-15k they are essentially doing the same thing as a Lux battle would do. Only 25k cheaper.

At the same time u have people like surf who does make sense to pay whatever he asking for yet u still gambling on wether he gonna give u a full 3.

Shotout to Hitman for being 100% worth the money he asks for. I always said if anything Hitman should be the highest paid battler in the world. He never lacked and actually brings battle rap to another fanbase.
 

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I see it the same way, even though I at least understand why Jones is insecure. That footage will live forever.

In the Fight Klub/early URL days Jones was on the same tier as the Mooks and Luxes of the world... Even though he’s had a gang of battles since then he hasn’t been seen in that Mt. Rushmore caliber for a long time and I feel like this incident has a lot to do with it.

Instead he’s looked at by a lot of people in the same category as Dose as another victim of Math’s bully shyt. I can see why that would fukk with him.
 

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I dont see it that way. If anything chess got a free deposit for nothing.
that's short term shyt bro. he was already liable to get barked on by two legends and arguable GOATs (and dont get me wrong, chess was/is gonna talk to them hardbody, but the messenger matters too, especially to casual fans that only really watch hollow, lux, mook)

if he jumped up to battle these guys and then got told to sit back down, you dont think that's an angle on him? then they let him spit like 10-20 bars and then he goes back to watching? hollow was already keying in on roc being submissive to surf, now that angle doubles
 

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Serius is still heated about getting punched. I don't doubt that he took this battle to get his revenge
 

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I wonder why math ain’t take the deal Jones wanted to get the fade before the battle? They need to. Only way to go into the battle.
To be honest that's something good from math. Do people really think that math wouldn't wash him on a one on one?they are clearly from different weight classes

Jones is hurt and desulisional but let's keep it real a one on one with math would only bring him another L
 

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To be honest that's something good from math. Do people really think that math wouldn't wash him on a one on one?they are clearly from different weight classes

Jones is hurt and desulisional but let's keep it real a one on one with math would only bring him another L
If you really wanna fight someone you don’t have to “ask” them to shoot fair lol

With that being said I thoroughly enjoyed the face off and hope jones washes dude in the battle
 

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A lot of times I've argued with brehs on here about battlers (specifically Mook & Lux) asking for big paydays and how its likely bankrupting leagues and stunting battle rap's growth. And the response is always sh1t like "If leagues couldn't afford it, they wouldn't do it", "leagues are still making $$", etc.

Anyway, Organik posted this on TalkBack today, very candid and very interesting



I figured leagues were losing money but never realized it was that much

I wonder how many times URL has lost on events and how much $$.

I guess Mook and Lux finally lowered their asking price as well as we've been seeing them on more cards in the last year or so.

Easy to forget about battle rap as a business sometimes. One that that I doubt is particularly profitable

And I feel like KOTD did get attacked at times when they were just hustling like any business trying to keep shyt together. I don't blame Organik for being fukked up about all this and trying to make it all work when things out of his control happen and folks work against him. Truly fukked up when you have league owners who have contributed alot to the game and still get their asses handed to them by fans, critics, comp, and etc.

I agree, Mook & Lux probably peeped how much the game is actually paying now and got hip to doing the shyt for something that is more affordable.
 
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