Essential The Official Battle Rap Random Thoughts Thread (URL, KOTD, UW etc...)

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Listing a HOF class is better than MT Rushmore cause it's only 4 spots you got but Lux & Mook is #1 & #2, no way around it. If we put it in HOF then it would be like.

Lux, Mook, Rex, Ars, Clips
Hitman, Tay Roc, Surf, Calicoe, Verb, Conceited
 

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I honestly don't think any of what you're saying in the first paragraph matters in terms of Mount Rushmore. Definitely in GOAT convo but not MR

While other battle rappers carried the culture during the Youtube era, if it wasn't for Lux, you wouldn't even know a good portion of those people, since he put them on through the Lionz Den. He put on Surf, Roc, Goodz, Verb, Arsonal, etc...he pretty much kept street battles alive when Smack fell back for years. That's importance and influence and that's what Mount Rushmore is about. Mount Rushmore isn't for the 4 best presidents. It's for the 4 most impactful.

Lux is easily top 4 most important and influential figures in battle rap history.

I think you're putting way too much emphasis on wins and loses, mostly which are subjective. You mentioned Lux and Hollow losing to Roc and Chess on a 2 on 2 as evidence of him not being Mount Rushmore. First off, that's 100% a minority held opinion that you stated as if it were a fact and secondly, even if that was/is the case, that's a very immaterial point to a Mount Rushmore argument. I think you're conflating GOAT conversation with MR.

For Mount Rushmore:

To me it's Mook, Lux and then you can argue about the next two.

I honestly don't think any of what you're saying in the first paragraph matters in terms of Mount Rushmore. Definitely in GOAT convo but not MR

While other battle rappers carried the culture during the Youtube era, if it wasn't for Lux, you wouldn't even know a good portion of those people, since he put them on through the Lionz Den. He put on Surf, Roc, Goodz, Verb, Arsonal, etc...he pretty much kept street battles alive when Smack fell back for years. That's importance and influence and that's what Mount Rushmore is about. Mount Rushmore isn't for the 4 best presidents. It's for the 4 most impactful.

Lux is easily top 4 most important and influential figures in battle rap history.

I think you're putting way too much emphasis on wins and loses, mostly which are subjective. You mentioned Lux and Hollow losing to Roc and Chess on a 2 on 2 as evidence of him not being Mount Rushmore. First off, that's 100% a minority held opinion that you stated as if it were a fact and secondly, even if that was/is the case, that's a very immaterial point to a Mount Rushmore argument. I think you're conflating GOAT conversation with MR.

For Mount Rushmore:

To me it's Mook, Lux and then you can argue about the next two.
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Nitty is an elite pen and the difference in levels was still obvious

“Then to lose a few of those matches” :mjlol:
Lux beat Hollow, Clips, Arsonal, Surf, Verb and Calicoe :russ:

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I love Lux, pause…amazing MC, displayed paranormal activity at Flex, etc…but that voting looks like a bunch of Lux fans did it. I got him beating Clips too, but it wasn’t even close to that convincing, 😂. Pretty much all of them are ridiculous

Edit: Look how few people voted, 😆, this is kinda pointless

Rushmore: Mook, Rex, Hitman, Diz or DNA or Ars. Not because they’re the best, but because any of them can be the logo, they are battle rap to non-battle rap heads.
 
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Lux vs clips wasn't remotely close. Lux obliterated him imo
This was my review of the battle


If you watch the battle and listen to all the shyt Lux was sayin.
He attacked Clips from so many angles man
He had shyt for the streetnikkas in Harlem
He had shyt for the battlerap fans that like exposals
He had shyt for the battlerap fans that like lyricism

How Clips responded to that 3rd after the exposal was the nail in the coffin

See, the problem is he fukks up y’all mind
Yo, on some G shyt, I’ve never been a bytch nikka
All my raps, I’ma get through
Y’all want to call my pops a rat? Your pops is a snitch,TOO!
:sadcam: - Clips
:ufdup: that right there was an Automatic L for Clips, no debating

And that's not even taking into account that Lux had FACTS all throughout the battle

The whole town know, even if the crowd don’t
:ufdup: That nikka P Nut told on Alpo

But look how it come around though
It’s no wonder why in your raps
You’re always mentioning the trap
‘Cause your mother was into the corner chasing cheese
And ended up with some RATS

:ufdup: That’s a Snapple top fact
"The nerve of a nikka,

get a bunch of lies from nikkas tryna make it work
I got 16 racks,
and I’ll give you half of that if you can provide me with paperwork"

:ufdup:THAT'S what you said, right?
:jbhmm:I figured that was a ploy to find out where the paperwork is
Which would’ve been smart, ‘cause you know
You don’t want that to maybe resurface
What happens when rehearsing being dangerous
Ain’t working could lead to hearsing?
See, what happens when nikkas rapping
get caught FAKING in their verses?
They say you was NERVOUS:sadcam:

:jbhmm:I heard when they contacted you, to pay it
He was playing like he ain’t had a paper to purchase

:jbhmm:So let me find out, my nikka,
you ain’t had a paper to purchase?
Don’t mind that, what happened?
:ufdup:It either IS or it AIN'T that, nikka, say that
So you don’t mind that I brought the homie Faybach?:sas2:
:ufdup:I figured you could come and give him his EIGHT stacks in person, nikka

*PULLS OUT PAPERWORK*
:ufdup: Don’t act like you ain’t got the money neither, nikka
I know what we made off our purses
:demonic: - Lux
Goodlord that nikka Lux was digging in that nikka SOUL brehs :ohlawd:
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And for those that don't know who Faybach is.
That's the son of the nikka that Clips' pops snitched on
He also had a disstrack goin at Clips


Lux had shyt for the bar nikkas

They say you a good nikka, I fought greater
All labor boss, on paper you a 4th grader
All you do is take a dope line or a gun bar
You just reference that with a sports player, you short paper
Fat boy, you couldn't get down with me with Rick Ross' trainer
Just cause you got t*ts, brah.. Don't mean you be thinkin in broad layers -
Lux vs Clips

I ain't saying ya shyt wack
But bro, it's the same move every time you kick that
Setup punchline, setup punchline -that's how you spit that?
Just a candy rapper with 4 bars; you a... :sas1:
Crowd: Kit Kat!! :krs::krs::krs:

See how easy it is to predict that :sas2:- Hollow vs Clips
Danny even wrote a whole breakdown of the 1st when it dropped :russ:
Read Danny's post about it in the AFM group
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Danny broke it the fukk down, straight facts

I'm on the phone with Farris, we rapping
He like, "mannn, if I would only knew then" :mjcry:
But here’s his new den number, 2-8-7-0-0 dash 0-5-4
That’s Leon in a Tucson federal prison
If you’re listening, :ufdup:TELL them what you’re viewin'
How his son said “I ain’t seen my pops in over 20 years.” :shaq2:
That’s ‘cause the last East Coast prison he was in
He got his face BLEW in"
:demonic: - Lux vs Clips
Clips pops got his face sliced for snitching and got transfered :whew:
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Farris with the folded arms and Clips' pops to the right of him
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Clips saw that 3rd rd Bodybag coming and was quick to call "TIME!! :merchant:" on that nikka :russ:
The more you watch that battle the more you just realize the lethal VENOM Lux hit em with :banderas:
Lux literally hit em with that sting that just gets more deadly the more you watch this battle
"Rewind find, there's more to find" :obama:

Lux vs Close wasn’t close at all :russ:
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These are the TBZ posters that voted.

Battle threads I make, this being one of them ALL have public votes for this exact reason. So there would be structure and ppl could see the sentiment about them from credible posters.

To dismiss these voters as “random Lux stans” like TBZ don’t got a stable group of regulars that been on here for 10-12+ years bein in agreement is just laughable.
 
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