The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

[Liquid]

I saw a review whose headline was "Go into BvS not expecting a Marvel film."

While I have read review who had legit problems with the movie, you can't deny that there are just as many that simply don't like the movie because it isn't in the same tone as Marvel.

Whoever wrote that title shouldn't be allowed to have their reviews count on any aggregator online.

What the fukk does that title even mean? Are they SUPPOSED to be the same? Is superman or batman supposed to be spider-man now? Did he watch Man of Steel to watch how the world was being established? When you factor in Man of Steel, how is there such a significant drop off in the ratings? Nothing is consistent with what I have read online and getting docked because it's not what they expected...problem is that we saw this world in 2013.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Just got done seeing it 5/10, good on the action, bad on the acting story line

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I saw a review whose headline was "Go into BvS not expecting a Marvel film."

While I have read review who had legit problems with the movie, you can't deny that there are just as many that simply don't like the movie because it isn't in the same tone as Marvel.

why don't more people retroactively hate TDK then? was that movie like marvel?

 

[HoldThisL]

Just seen the movie a hour ago and I was not planning on going because of the critics. Needless to say im glad I just went and ignored them cause it was better then I expected. I give it a 8/10 .

Only things I didnt like was Doomsday and the way they introduced the other characters from justice league.

That dream scene was confusing as fuk especially the end, had me wondering who the hell that was at the end because his appearance was not the normal way we see him.



But other than that I was into it the whole movie and at the edge of my seat during the action scenes .

Not listening to critics anymore regardless of the movie now. As long as I like it, that is the only thing that matters.

 

[Arishok]

why don't more people retroactively hate TDK then? was that movie like marvel?

I don't know nor do I care. I'm not one of those tin foil hat "DC conspiracy" people I'm just calling it like I see it, like I said many people have brought up legit criticisms of the film hell I've done it and I love the film, no one is hating on that but many reviews have that same tired "unlike Marvel" or "it wasn't like Marvel" line. Those aren't critiques, you critique a film on what it was trying to do and how successful it was not on some tired comparison.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I don't know nor do I care. I'm not one of those tin foil hat "DC conspiracy" people I'm just calling it like I see it, like I said many people have brought up legit criticisms of the film hell I've done it and I love the film, no one is hating on that but many reviews have that same tired "unlike Marvel" or "it wasn't like Marvel" line. Those aren't critiques, you critique a film on what it was trying to do and how successful it was not on some tired comparison.

okay so what if someone said, "it failed in what it tried to do and i wish it was more like marvel"?

what's wrong with hating a movie and citing a positive example as reference?

 

[Arishok]

okay so what if someone said, "it failed in what it tried to do and i wish it was more like marvel"?

what's wrong with hating a movie and citing a positive example as reference?

Because Marvel films and these films have such a different tone and I don't think DC should ever be like Marvel. If they want to cite positive examples cite the Nolan verse or the DC comic books or the animated films like someone brought up doing humor the way they did it in Justice League war but don't bring up an example that's going a completely different route.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

 

[wire28]

DC stans and marvel haters keep citing a couple reviewers talking about tone. What about the vast majority of average joes that left underwhelmed I have two huge comic fans on my Facebook time line that been waiting for this shyt for years and they actually rated it lower than I did

You got nikkas in here saying it wasn't that bad !!! And still giving it a 6.5/10 the movie should have been a home run, they pushed the shyt back and got two of Americas favorite comic icons and grounded out to the pitcher

what you meant to say was audiences don't really like shytty films

Fixed.

 

[Liquid]

DC stans and marvel haters keep citing a couple reviewers talking about tone. What about the vast majority of average joes that left underwhelmed I have two huge comic fans on my Facebook time line that been waiting for this shyt for years and they actually rated it lower than I did

You got nikkas in here saying it wasn't that bad !!! And still giving it a 6.5/10 the movie should have been a home run, they pushed the shyt back and got two of Americas favorite comic icons and grounded out to the pitcher


Fixed.

Over 70% of the audience liked it and the number would be higher if they didn't let these bad reviews cloud some initial judgement. In no way do less than 30% of critics should like this movie. That simply doesn't make sense, it's basically a man of steel sequel and did it well. Not sure what people wanted to be done in this world DC set up.

As far as I'm concerned those docking points for tone and comparing it to marvel films should be discredited immediately. That's not why you dock points from a movie when you are supposed to be objective and have material to consider before watching this movie going in.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

How are you going to put the tone down as a negative if that's what it's trying to portray.

Maybe because it didn't portray it well.

 

[lutha]

The only thing that was weak to me is Superman's obsession with Batman to begin with. I am sure it'll be elaborated more in the Ultimate cut version, but you got Superman acting upon like the policeman of the world. Snyder should of made it a broader point about Superman's own belief that he has moral authority to judge actions of other peoples ethics and making that more of an incentive to face Batman. I disliked the Lois angle in forcing him to fight, although I do agree the Martha kidnapping would of been worked great if Luthor pinned that blame on Batman in his lack of preventing it, similar to how he used the wheelchair amputee to get Batman more upset at the consequences that Superman did at Metropolis.

what you said there isn't superman...he doesnt act like he's the moral authority to judge, he doesnt think he's the policeman of the world....his problem with batman is he doesnt agree with his def of justice, determining right/wrong (bats believes in gray, sup doesn't), being the judge/jury/execution....and the movie presents that in a great way....ex: clark asks bruce about the human liberties question.....in fact, the way you described superman is actually more so how batman sees the world & acts, and the movie does a great job to present that....the fact he was branding people & pretty much sentencing them to 'death' cause of it, getting harsher/crueler with his tactics, etc....having Alfred question his tactics was a great example of this....hell, even their fight was a great example of their differences in thinking....sup tried to talk with bats first; tried to talk to him again after the traps bats set went off; tried to talk to him a third time and show him he wasn't willing to hurt him, even if he had a legit reason.....where as bats doesn't give a fukk, he goes all out no matter what....

also, there was no need for sup to point out/say/act like he was all good, how people interacted with him showed that....lex's speech about 'all powerful, all good' is a great example of this....people really doubted if someone that powerful, could be that good...and that's what the character has always been about, hence the boy scout....

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

DC stans and marvel haters keep citing a couple reviewers talking about tone. What about the vast majority of average joes that left underwhelmed I have two huge comic fans on my Facebook time line that been waiting for this shyt for years and they actually rated it lower than I did

You got nikkas in here saying it wasn't that bad !!! And still giving it a 6.5/10 the movie should have been a home run, they pushed the shyt back and got two of Americas favorite comic icons and grounded out to the pitcher


Fixed.

Age of Ultron should have been a home run as well.....it wasn't

Edit: Truth is this movie was a lot like Iron Man 2 in setting up the rest of the universe. Only I think its better and will be better received years from now than that.

Obviously it should be better. A lot of people just clowning it worse because it wasn't on a Dark Knight or Avengers level.

 

[lutha]

Superman became less popular because the 90s was the rise of the anti hero and characters like venom. It's as simple as that.


There's a reason man of steel almost tripled superman returns box office

Because nobody but you and other fossils want to see that old boring superman

this is true...sup went down in popularity cause people that read comics started growing up and thought 'darker, more adult' was better, hence the rise in all the anti-hero shyt, frank miller's rise in popularity, watchmen, etc....and what's sad is that same shyt is what almost killed the comic industry.....

anyway, a lot of people have always disliked sup's boy scout image and have said no one would ever be that good, that moral, that black/white when it comes to justice, etc.....so what does zack do? give those people the sup they've been asking for, but now all of a sudden they want the old sup back....lol get the fukk outta here....if anything, I like how zack has shown sup go through shyt, struggle with the savior label put on him, and ultimately decide to become the established sup we know...that's been better than him just being that way the min he put on the suit/learned to fly....which i'm sure the same ones complaining now, would be complaining then too....

 

[Apex]

Where's Green Lantern, brehs?