Why is there always arguing in this thread instead of just basking in the piff that was that trailer, brehs?
If I wanted to see endless pages of arguing, I would go to the Locker Room.
Fukk you, Marvel is better
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Fukk you, Marvel is better
Unlike some of the other trolls in here, you're a cool nikka, so don't take any of this personally: on one hand people criticize this version of Superman by saying that Superman wouldn't do that, Superman wouldn't do this. The vast majority of the criticism has been based on what people expect from the character. Yet now you're critcizing this version of him based on coming into this movie without knowing the character. Which one is it breh? Is Singer allowed to create his own vision of Superman or is he supposed to live up to the expectations of fans based on old versions of Superman?
But to directly answer your question: Superman is an inherently burdened character. What I loved about this version of the character is the weight placed on him by the power he has. It's extremely cliche but with the power he has comes great responsibility. Being worshipped isn't all it's cracked up to be. Plus he's seen as a pariah by a good chunk of the population. He's likeable because he's powerful and saved the world. He's unliked because he's powerful and could destroy the world. That dichotomy seems to be what they're going for. So it wouldn't make sense to have him on some Tony Stark cracking jokes steeze. Superman is the responsible dad who has a mortgage and eats TV dinners. Tony Stark is the uncle that lets you have sips of his beer at cookouts before you turned 21. It's levels to this, breh. Plus, all we've seen of the character on the big screen has been him being this unique super powered being. There are no other good guys on is level for him to interact with. He doesn't have the luxury of trading lines with another hero like the Avengers you mentioned do. Captain America is a national icon who has decades of renown. Iron Man is a billionaire playboy whose identity is well known . Superman is an alien who had a hand in destroying a city in his attempt to save the world. He's a polarizing character in the world they're building. Once the Justice League is built up I would assume we could get some opportunities to get that corny Superman humor as he gets to interact with other heroes with different personalities.
Ain't That Something
Superstar
He could have easily have said fukk you @wire28 I'm riding with Zod, I ain't got to put my life on the line facing an army of Kryptonianshe sacrificed something he knew nothing about to protect all he knew
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Ain't That Something
Superstar
What Marty said to what orbath said
i mean thats fine and dandy, and i actually encourage directors taking on their own interpretation of the character. i hate it when dudes are like "but its not like the comics!"
cough raimi spiderman series vs amazing spiderman cough 
@MartyMcFly
@MartyMcFlyand he didnt have to be cracking jokes or anything. the character just fell flat to me. i liked crowe. i liked zod and his goons. i liked the fights. i didnt like superman. and i want to like the movie and almost bought it a little while back
to go along with my entire Marvel collection
yes his circumstance in MOS may have made for a good set up, but i dont think the actual character delivered
edit: and yeah no problem man this is a messageboard i dont take none of this shyt serious. hence my welcoming the role of Marvel stan extraordinaire
@Prodigal Syndicate crowned me and i carry it with pride 
Lefty Gunz
Superstar
@obarth said what I've always said about this iteration: they put the weight of the world on his shoulders and as opposed to knowing what to do with it he's unsure and i liked that. rather than give him peter parker's sense of humor and glibness. You're the most powerful being on the planet, people have never seen anything like you and your parents have feared that people won't understand you and if you've lived on this planet long enough, you begin to realize that human beings are a scared species when it comes to what we don't understand and how we react to "new". So now you've got this guy who's out on his own for the first time and he's trying to stay low because he knows what he can do but he also doesn't fit; he's trying to find himself and find his purpose and it worked for me because i like stories with characters who don't have it all together
No no no no no good homie (and you are the homie) the issue with Rami isn't about him giving his own interpretation of the character, it's him acting like Peter is supposed to be a shy 17 year old into adulthood and taking away his sense of humor. That shyt isn't an interpretation, that's just bad writing. He shouldn't be the same guy at 22 or 23 that he is at 17. I don't mind the other deviations he made to the character (the organic webbing, the whole MJ is my one true love thing, even the way the shyt went down with him and the wrestling promoter) but taking away peter's sense of humor and saying he doesn't grow? I got an issue with that. Or just acting as if Peter is this angel who never does anything wrong unless he's full of himself or possessed by an alien, which completely ignores character depth and growth and development.
i mean thats fine and dandy, and i actually encourage directors taking on their own interpretation of the character. i hate it when dudes are like "but its not like the comics!"
cough raimi spiderman series vs amazing spiderman cough
and he didnt have to be cracking jokes or anything. the character just fell flat to me. i liked crowe. i liked zod and his goons. i liked the fights. i didnt like superman. and i want to like the movie and almost bought it a little while back, i just cant get down with the interpretation. we'll see how it goes in BVS and based off the scraps they've given us there will be great action and probably some good dialogue from other characters but we'll see if superman gives us anything. off the strength of the stills and trailer i think batman is going to steal the show and superman is going to be playing the background, againto go along with my entire Marvel collection
yes his circumstance in MOS may have made for a good set up, but i dont think the actual character delivered
No no no no no good homie (and you are the homie) the issue with Rami isn't about him giving his own interpretation of the character, it's him acting like Peter is supposed to be a shy 17 year old into adulthood and taking away his sense of humor. That shyt isn't an interpretation, that's just bad writing. He shouldn't be the same guy at 22 or 23 that he is at 17. I don't mind the other deviations he made to the character (the organic webbing, the whole MJ is my one true love thing, even the way the shyt went down with him and the wrestling promoter) but taking away peter's sense of humor and saying he doesn't grow? I got an issue with that. Or just acting as if Peter is this angel who never does anything wrong unless he's full of himself or possessed by an alien, which completely ignores character depth and growth and development.
Brandeezy
Superstar
Really brehs, another MOS argument? 
Y'all need to move on or take that shyt to the MOS thread, the movie dropped almost 3 years ago. We're on to the sequel and bigger/better things now. Real talk @Kill Dat Noize @TheGodling what are you guys trying to accomplish, trying to sway people who post on here to not watch BvS and go see CA:CW or something? You guys have been repeating the same sentences over and over again about MOS, we get it brehs, you want to see a Superman that you grew up with or whatever. Well i'm sorry to disappoint you but it looks like WB/DC isn't going the route you expected. You can either not watch the sequel and forget the DCCU completely or not, but crying about it over and over again isn't gonna change anything. Write WB/DC a letter or some shyt expressing your feelings about it but I think we're all tired of hearing about it on here. I thought Avengers AOU wasn't good and said my piece about it in the official thread but that was it. I still plan on seeing the majority of the Marvel movies coming out anyways because i'm a fan and like the characters. Y'all are seriously doing too much...
Y'all need to move on or take that shyt to the MOS thread, the movie dropped almost 3 years ago. We're on to the sequel and bigger/better things now. Real talk @Kill Dat Noize @TheGodling what are you guys trying to accomplish, trying to sway people who post on here to not watch BvS and go see CA:CW or something? You guys have been repeating the same sentences over and over again about MOS, we get it brehs, you want to see a Superman that you grew up with or whatever. Well i'm sorry to disappoint you but it looks like WB/DC isn't going the route you expected. You can either not watch the sequel and forget the DCCU completely or not, but crying about it over and over again isn't gonna change anything. Write WB/DC a letter or some shyt expressing your feelings about it but I think we're all tired of hearing about it on here. I thought Avengers AOU wasn't good and said my piece about it in the official thread but that was it. I still plan on seeing the majority of the Marvel movies coming out anyways because i'm a fan and like the characters. Y'all are seriously doing too much...LolLike I said before that nikka done lost his mind and I expect him to come back 20 post from now talking about the violence in M.O.S when he a couple pages ago tried to argue he was fine with the violence why is BVS bringing it up?
That nikka masterfully trolling this thread I got to give it to him
Really brehs, another MOS argument?
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
no the love story in gotg was complete bullshyt. no effort at all. didn't do anything for me.
I didnt BELIEVE in their love. I couldnt feel the chemistry guys. They didnt feel like they were really in love, and Im an expert. Not like marvel films. When star lord kissed gamora the hairs on my neck rose. The chemistry was ELECTRIC.
but there was still more chemistry between chris pratt and zoe saldana. it wasn't completely fabricated out of thin air.
There was a love story in guardians? Breh, there's no way you thought those two ended up together at the end of that movie did you?
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
pardon me i don't remember the movie all that well. i've only seen it once.
but if i recall correctly there was at least some witty banter between the 2 earlier in the movie. kind of sets up that tension.
again it was a really weak try, but at least they tried.
amy adams doesn't even strike me as a woman that likes to get down in MOS. and superman doesn't strike me as a guy that likes to either. that movie had NO sexual undertones whatsoever.
am i wrong?
the arguments over the characterization of superman in MOS are atleast legit because this is the character that will be going into BVSReally brehs, another MOS argument?
the film was polarizing. if you objectively want to look at the aggregation of reviews, i dont know why some are taking it as blasphemy that some didnt like it
and on the bold. if only others felt that way, instead of making the illogical leap that jokes = for kids
, claiming that the public has grown tired of the formula when the latest film made over a billion dollars, etc, but i digress...it sounds like yall like this version of superman because of his circumstance rather than the actual character but
willing to agree to disagree. MOS superman didnt entertain or intrigue me