The Official "Avengers: Infinity War" Thread (SPOILERS)

[obarth]

The sad part is we never really got a proper origin movie for Hulk, and that is also one of his more interesting stories. He always Hulk in the MCU, and the Hulk movie from like 2003 is complete trash.

The 2008 movie starring Norton was essentially an origin movie. It underperformed, but besides changing the actor, that movie is still canon to the MCU, I believe. I didn't mind it, and it had classic characters that were both important to Hulk but also Marvel in general. Gen. Ross(who was just in Infinity War, lol) turning into Red Hulk would be completely random in the MCU right now because his connection to Hulk has been completely ignored. I personally feel the boat's been missed to do a solo Hulk movie, personally.

 

[Luke Cage]

The 2008 movie starring Norton was essentially an origin movie. It underperformed, but besides changing the actor, that movie is still canon to the MCU, I believe. I didn't mind it, and it had classic characters that were both important to Hulk but also Marvel in general. Gen. Ross(who was just in Infinity War, lol) turning into Red Hulk would be completely random in the MCU right now because his connection to Hulk has been completely ignored. I personally feel the boat's been missed to do a solo Hulk movie, personally.

it wasn't an origin story, it doesn't explain his origins(how/why he became the hulk), it was just a Hulk movie. It starts off, sort of right after those events.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The 2008 movie starring Norton was essentially an origin movie. It underperformed, but besides changing the actor, that movie is still canon to the MCU, I believe. I didn't mind it, and it had classic characters that were both important to Hulk but also Marvel in general. Gen. Ross(who was just in Infinity War, lol) turning into Red Hulk would be completely random in the MCU right now because his connection to Hulk has been completely ignored. I personally feel the boat's been missed to do a solo Hulk movie, personally.

Probably so. It’s been a decade and we only just saw Ross again in civil war and infinity war. They’d have needed to do one before age of Ultron in my opinion.

 

[obarth]

it wasn't an origin story, it doesn't explain his origins(how/why he became the hulk), it was just a Hulk movie. It starts off, sort of right after those events.

It's been a while since I watched it, so I googled the opening:


That could technically be called his "origin story" in those first 30 seconds, but you're right breh, my bad

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Universal has the rights and they ARE not putting out a Hulk movie with Marvel .. EVER.. Marvel has the Hulk rights in the "team-up" films and that's why his arc is being played in thor/A3/A4 ..

its been said ... UNIVERSAL will NOT be doing another Hulk Solo Movie..

 

[Luke Cage]

Universal has the rights and they ARE not putting out a Hulk movie with Marvel .. EVER.. Marvel has the Hulk rights in the "team-up" films and that's why his arc is being played in thor/A3/A4 ..

its been said ... UNIVERSAL will NOT be doing another Hulk Solo Movie..

do you know why they are holding onto the rights still?

edit: nevermind

Universal still holds distribution rights for future Hulk films — that part is true. But Marvel holds the rights and license to the character itself. Universal has what’s called “the right of first refusal,” meaning that, if Marvel chooses to make a new Hulk movie, Universal basically gets first dibs on whether or not to distribute the film. If they pass, the distribution rights are up for grabs, and another studio can distribute it (like Marvel).

Universal has distribution rights, not film rights. They would probably love it if marvel made another solo Hulk movie.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

do you know why they are holding onto the rights still?

edit: nevermind

Universal still holds distribution rights for future Hulk films — that part is true. But Marvel holds the rights and license to the character itself. Universal has what’s called “the right of first refusal,” meaning that, if Marvel chooses to make a new Hulk movie, Universal basically gets first dibs on whether or not to distribute the film. If they pass, the distribution rights are up for grabs, and another studio can distribute it (like Marvel).

Universal has distribution rights, not film rights. They would probably love it if marvel made another solo Hulk movie.

Univeral Pictures has the distribution rights to the Hulk franchise, which include characters like Bruce Banner/Hulk, Betty Ross, General Ross, Abomination, She-Hulk, and the Leader. Marvel can utilize these characters to a degree in other projects, but any movie with these characters squarely in the lead role would have to be done in partnership with Universal - and players involved say that isn't going to happen.

"I wanna make just one thing perfectly clear today, a standalone Hulk movie will never happen," Mark Ruffalo told Variety in July 2017. "For some reason [Universal doesn't] know how to play well with Marvel... because they don't want to make money."

2008's Incredible Hulk film was made in a partnership by Universal and Marvel Studios, but the two sides have been unable to come to terms on anything similiar since the success of 2008's Iron Man.

In a similiar situation, the rights to Marvel Comics' earliest character Namor are also tied up in rights situations. Marvel Studios' president Kevin Feige previously said that any Namor film would have to include Marvel Studios but that the film rights are owned by other parties including Universal (which optioned the character in 2001).

"Let’s put it this way - there are entanglements that make it less easy. There are older contracts that still involve other parties that mean we need to work things out before we move forward on it," Feige told IGN. "As opposed to an Iron Man or any of the Avengers or any of the other Marvel characters where we could just put them in."

this is why Hulk in a secondary character in a "buddy" film but they still found a way to tell his arc..

Thor 3 was perfect .. he was Hulk for 2 years.. locked Banner out. . then Banner wants to Hulk at will and he's like NO... it makes since... you have to watch Thor Ragnarok to understand why Hulk says no..

 

[Luke Cage]

this is why Hulk in a secondary character in a "buddy" film but they still found a way to tell his arc..

Thor 3 was perfect .. he was Hulk for 2 years.. locked Banner out. . then Banner wants to Hulk at will and he's like NO... it makes since... you have to watch Thor Ragnarok to understand why Hulk says no..

Distribution rights, not creative rights. They don't decide if a movie will be made. They get to profit off the distribution. Saying Universal doesn't want the movie is stupid because all they have to do is sit there and reap the benefits. Marvel doesn't want the movie made. Because they stand make much less money off of it.

If Marvel made the movie and they refused to Distribute it, they would be giving up those rights, enabling Marvel to distribute it themselves.

 

[Emoryal]

They were caught off guard but ego/stupidity is what ended up costing them. You have Tony refusing to call Cap which was dumb, and Quil couldn't keep his anger in check which did them in.

Don't they have to go to Universal for approval?

If tony had called cap they still wouldn't have done any better. Quill's plan to use Mantis is the only realistic plan that could have worked and Quill fukked it up. But again I wasn't arguing about any of that.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Distribution rights, not creative rights. They don't decide if a movie will be made. They get to profit off the distribution. Saying Universal doesn't want the movie is stupid because all they have to do is sit there and reap the benefits. Marvel doesn't want the movie made. Because they stand make much less money off of it.

If Marvel made the movie and they refused to Distribute it, they would be giving up those rights, enabling Marvel to distribute it themselves.

correct but you missing the other one key part... if any Hulk character has a lead role it has to be a partnership with Universal.

 

[Uptown WaYo87]

Anybody else copped the digital hd with the quickness? Im also copping the 4k version once it drops

this shyt is a classic to me

 

[Rell84shots]

Why did they cut this?

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

I’m just amazed it literally was almost non stop action. It really was a great movie I love how well they handled Thanos. If you watch the second half of the movie and picture Thanos as the hero it is amazing. Like even shots when he’s talking with strange and thinks he is by himself and quill is around the corner smirking it seems like he is the bad guy/a lurking henchman russos

and then when strange said We and Thanos quickly caught that..

Why did they cut this?

its not completely cut.. the movie version is slightly different

 

[DPresidential]

Brehs...

I'm blown the fukk away.

Legit.

Enough about that for now.

For the brehs who went to the theater...I need to know....



How the fukk did the audience respond to T'Chakla fading away?????

Also, y'all NEED to watch the bonus features and see the round table discussion of all of the directors in the MCU movies.

Ryan...

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Brehs...

I'm blown the fukk away.

Legit.

Enough about that for now.

For the brehs who went to the theater...I need to know....



How the fukk did the audience respond to T'Chakla fading away?????

Also, y'all NEED to watch the bonus features and see the round table discussion of all of the directors in the MCU movies.

Ryan...

The response was gasps. Stunned silence. A couple people were mad, but most of the audience couldn’t say a word.