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How do you deal with the fact that you have to come off test and start PCT. You feel so good, it feels like this is how you're supposed to have been feeling your whole life but then to stop, even if it's for three months kinda gives me anxiety. This is just for Test E

How bad is it?
 

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How do you deal with the fact that you have to come off test and start PCT. You feel so good, it feels like this is how you're supposed to have been feeling your whole life but then to stop, even if it's for three months kinda gives me anxiety. This is just for Test E

How bad is it?
Test is The Fountain of Youth, you feel good on test, you are in a happy mood, you got Energy, libido through the roof, You are Alpha Male, A great PCT will do the job, sometimes it's in our head, but when you start your PCT run some SARMS for 3 months and keep the good times rolling then bridge into your next cycle:banderas:
 

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Test is The Fountain of Youth, you feel good on test, you are in a happy mood, you got Energy, libido through the roof, You are Alpha Male, A great PCT will do the job, sometimes it's in our head, but when you start your PCT run some SARMS for 3 months and keep the good times rolling then bridge into your next cycle:banderas:


Damn no breaks lol

I went into this with a lot of misconceptions about test and how it works. I'm really learning to respect these things. It's not just some shyt you put in your body and boom. Still takes a lot of work and dieting. Like so many things it's not till after you do something that you understand why people would tell you to wait.

Thanks for the thread a lot of useful info in here.
 

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Dimethyltrienolone
Chemical Composition

Manufacturer: Multiple Effective Dose (Men): 20-40 mg/day Effective Dose (Women): Not Recommended Half-Life:Approx. 8-10 Hours Detection Time:Unknown Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio:>10,000/>10,000

Description

Dimethyltrienolone is a derivative of the anabolic steroid nandrolone. The chemical structure of Dimethyltrienolone has been altered twice. The first modification is the addition of a 7-alpha methyl group which increases the percentage of free active steroid within the bloodstream, thus enhancing overall potency. Secondly, it has been c-17-alpha alkylated, a modification that allows it to make it through the liver unaffected.

The resulting compound is a potent oral steroid thats very similar to a more potent version of Anavar (Oxandrolone) a comprehensive DHT-derived, oral, anabolic steroid that provides you with some of everything (muscle, strength, definition, endurance, fat loss, etc.). As if those attributes werent remarkable enough, Dimethyltrienolone does all this without aromatizing (converting testosterone to estrogen).

Steroid Form

Dimethyltrienolone was developed for oral administration, and is generally found in 5 and 10 mg tablets. Neither Dimethyltrienolone, nor any generic versions of it were commercially manufactured as prescription medications. However, it is produced by underground labs, and available on the black market.

Additional Information

When bulking, Dimethyltrienolone stacks well with powerful mass building compounds like testosterone, Deca-Durabolin, Halotestin, Equipoise, and Trenbolone. However, due to its Anavar-like properties, Dimethyltrienolone makes an even better cutting cycle compound combining well with cocktail ingredients like Winstrol, Trenbolone, Masteron, Primobolan, Oral Turinabol, and testosterone propionate.
 

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Durabolin
(Nandrolone Phenylpropionate)



Durabolin is an anabolic steroid that was created by Organon in the late 1950’s and is officially known as Nandrolone Phenylpropionate. This anabolic steroid is almost identical to Organon’s Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate), the only difference being the ester attached. This makes Durabolin or NPP as it’s commonly called a much faster acting version of Nandrolone. Durabolin is also one of the oldest Nandrolone compounds and was actually released a few years ahead of Deca Durabolin. However, it has been Deca Durabolin and the overall Nandrolone Decanoate mixture that has dominated the Nandrolone market place throughout history. While Organon still makes Durabolin and there are many other pharmacies and underground labs that make NPP, it is not as commonly available. However, in recent years it has seen its demand slightly increase due to performance enhancement use

Durabolin is one of the most beneficial anabolic steroids to ever hit the market. The benefits of this steroid can easily be seen in both therapeutic and performance based circles. In a medical setting, along with testosterone this is one of the most important anabolic steroids we have, and the advantages it can provide run extremely deep. Unfortunately, the full potential of this steroid has never been realized due to the tremendous amount of controversy that surrounds anabolic steroids, especially in the U.S. In fact, the U.S. is far behind many parts of the world when it comes to Nandrolone therapy. While tremendous for medicinal purposes, Durabolin is also a premier lean mass promoting anabolic steroid. There are very few anabolic steroids that can pack on quality mass along side a high threshold of toleration like Durabolin. It is also one of the best steroids for athletic enhancement due to the recovery and endurance enhancement it can provide
 

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Durabolin Functions & Traits:
Durabolin is a 19-nortestosterone (19-nor) anabolic androgenic steroid. All Nandrolone compounds belong to the 19-nor class, as do all Trenbolone compounds. Trenbolone is actually a derivative of Nandrolone. The 19-nor classification itself notes a structural change in the testosterone hormone; specifically the removal or lacking of a carbon atom at the 19th position. This is what gives us the Nandrolone hormone. In the case of Durabolin, this same Nandrolone hormone is attached to the small Phenylpropionate ester, which regulates the release of the Nandrolone hormone. Phenylpropionate will provide a much sharper release of Nandrolone in Durabolin compared to the Decanoate ester in Deca Durabolin. The individual will have to administer Durabolin far more frequently than the larger ester based version, but it should still be within a comfortable time frame. Once injected, Durabolin will provide a sharp spike in Nandrolone within the first 24-48 hours and continue to slowly release the hormone until baseline levels are reached approximately one week later.

Durabolin is a potent anabolic, slightly more anabolic than testosterone carrying an anabolic rating of 125 compared to testosterone’s 100. However, its androgenic nature is far less than testosterone carrying a rating of 37 compared to testosterone’s 100. This reduction in androgenicity can largely be attributed to Nandrolone’s ability to reduce to dihydronandrolone (DHN) rather than dihydrotestosterone (DHT) like testosterone. This reduced androgenic nature also makes Durabolin far more tolerable in supraphysiological doses for many men compared to high doses of testosterone. Both hormones should fall in the tolerable category, but the lessened androgenicity gives Nandrolone a slight advantage. This advantage can also be seen when examining its estrogenic activity. Durabolin, as with all Nandrolone hormones will aromatize, but only at 20% the rate of testosterone. It does, however, carry a strong progestin nature, and this will be important when examining the side effects of Durabolin. As you can see and will continue to see, NPP is truly interchangeable with Deca Durabolin, only the timing based on the ester is different
 

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Durabolin carries with it many positive steroidal traits such as the ability to enhance protein synthesis, increase IGF-1 output and inhibit glucocorticoid hormones. These are traits shared by many anabolic steroids, as is Durabolin’s ability to enhance nitrogen retention in the muscle, but the Nandrolone hormone has been shown to increase nitrogen levels more efficiently than many anabolic steroids. This will greatly promote the anabolic atmosphere in the body, and more importantly, protect the individual from a catabolic state. Durabolin will also greatly increase red blood cell count, in turn promoting more anabolic activity, muscular endurance and recovery traits.

Like all Nandrolone hormones, Durabolin is well-known for carrying two traits that set the Nandrolone hormone apart from many anabolic steroids. Such traits will also represent the very reason many choose to supplement with NPP, especially in athletic circles. The use of Durabolin will greatly enhance and promote bone mineral content and collagen synthesis. This will provide tremendous relief to the joints, as well as remarkably improve the body’s recovery abilities. The issue of recovery is nowhere near as exciting sounding as massive increases in strength or size, but veteran athletes understand it is the most important issue when it comes to success.

Through the traits and functions provided by Durabolin, it is well-suited for numerous purposes of medical treatment. In fact, many of these will not be too surprising when you consider the steroid’s primary actions. Durabolin and Nandrolone as a whole has been proven highly effective for treating the following conditions:

  • Muscle Wasting Diseases: Cancer, HIV, etc.
  • Improving Geriatric Weakness & Fatigue
  • Anemia
  • Breast Cancer
  • The Treatment of Burn Victims
  • Ulcers
  • Pituitary Dwarfism
  • Development Retardation in Children
  • Osteoporosis
 

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While Durabolin has proven useful for such treatments, Deca Durabolin or related Nandrolone Decanoate compounds is normally the Nandrolone prescribed. However, in the U.S. the use of Nandrolone has become extremely limited due to intense anabolic steroid legislation. The strict control has actually hindered numerous advancements and treatment plans, making it no surprise that Organon has left the U.S. market. However, many U.S. physicians are beginning to recognize the benefits of the Nandrolone hormone; basic therapeutic rejuvenation plans are being realized. In time, the U.S. market and Nandrolone may look a whole lot better.

Effects of Durabolin:
By understanding the functions and traits of Durabolin, the therapeutic advantages largely speak for themselves. Then we’re left with performance enhancement, which is the primary point of interest for most men, and by far a representation of the steroid’s primary use. In order to understand the effects of Durabolin, we must first recognize that there are numerous purposes to performance based supplementation. It’s very common to assume the entire point of use is building large amounts of lean tissue, and that is a primary point of use, but it’s also far from the only one. There will be those who supplement with Durabolin with no gains in lean mass in mind; in fact, this type of use is not all that uncommon. However, this does not take away from this steroid’s ability to build lean tissue, which is its primary purpose.

For the off-season individual looking to build or add large amounts of lean mass, Durabolin is an excellent steroid to choose. While it will be much faster acting than Deca Durabolin, the overall gains will still come slower compared to many steroids, but the quality will be just that, quality. Water retention is possible, but should be extremely easy to control for most men. Significant and substantial amounts of lean tissue should be obtainable with this steroid, but it will only occur with enough calories in your diet. You must consume enough calories to support growth, and this will normally only require a few hundred calories per day above maintenance. Of course, some will need even more based on their genetics. Due to this necessary caloric surplus, this will typically promote body fat gain during the off-season, it’s inevitable, but the use of Durabolin should limit it. Nandrolone has been shown to have a very strong metabolic enhancing effect. Then we have the relief and recovery effects of Durabolin, and as off-season training is normally accompanied by very heavy weight training, this will be more than welcomed.
 

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As bulking is a primary purpose of use, many rarely think of Durabolin as part of a cutting cycle, but it can serve a purpose. This steroid will greatly protect lean muscle mass during a necessary caloric restriction. Remember, to lose body fat you must burn more calories than you consume, and this can lead to lean tissue loss. Durabolin supplementation will prevent this. During the dieting phase, many also choose to use Nandrolone for the recovery, endurance and relief it can provide. Undeniably hard dieting can take a toll on the body, making low dose supplementation during this phase extremely beneficial.

The final point of use that sums up the effects of Durabolin is direct athletic enhancement. Nandrolone does have the ability to increase strength, but it’s not what we’d consider a premier strength increasing steroid. Where this steroid shines in athletics is once again in its promotion or enhancement of muscular endurance, recovery and relief. The wear and tear produced by competitive sports is extremely taxing on the body, making Durabolin a perfect solution for the athlete to ensure his performance is at its peak the duration of a season. So effective for relief and recovery, Durabolin actually promotes true relief and recovery. This is not a masking or false effect that is obtained through painkillers or traditional medicines but rather true recovery and relief.

Side Effects of Durabolin:
Durabolin is one of the more well-tolerated anabolic steroids on the market, especially for adult men, but can serve a purpose for females. Females are, however, normally advised against performance based use with this steroid in lieu of better options. For most men, while side effects of Durabolin use are possible, they will largely fall into the possible category and not guaranteed; there is an exception. But most men will find with responsible use this steroid can be extremely beneficial without unwanted problematic effects. In order to understand the side effects of Durabolin, we have separated them into their specific categories with all the related information you’ll need.
 

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[1] Estrogenic:
Durabolin does carry with it a mild amount of estrogenic activity due to a slight aromatizing nature. Aromatization refers to the conversion of testosterone to estrogen, and as excess estrogen abounds it can lead to gynecomastia, excess water retention and high blood pressure due to severe water retention. The total amount of aromatase activity in Durabolin is approximately 20% the rate of testosterone promoting favorable control, but it’s still enough to induce possible problems. However, the Nandrolone hormone also has a strong binding affinity for the progesterone receptor, as well as the ability to significantly stimulate the estrogenic mechanism in the mammary tissue. This factor along with slight aromatization will increase the risk of gynecomastia. To protect yourself from the estrogenic side effects of Durabolin many men will need an anti-estrogen medication. The primary choices are Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERM’s) like Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) and Aromatase Inhibitors (AI’s) like Arimidex (Anastrozole). AI’s will be the most effective, but they will also have a negative effect on cholesterol. This negative effect can be exasperated when anabolic steroids are present. SERM’s are often enough and fortunately will have no negative impact on cholesterol levels; in fact, they should improve your cholesterol. However, the total dosing of Nandrolone and individual sensitivity will dictate quite a bit, some men will necessarily need an AI, but SERM’s should be chosen first if they can get the job done. As with Deca Durabolin and all 19-nor compounds, it’s long been assumed and passed around that prolactin was the concern regarding gynecomastia and the use of 19-nor anabolic steroids. This is, however, not the case, but rather dependent on the balance between estrogen and progesterone. It is the imbalance that leads to gynecomastia, not prolactin.

[2] Androgenic:
Durabolin carries a rather high threshold when it comes to androgenic side effects. Such effects are possible but they are unlikely in most men. Possible androgenic side effects include acne, accelerated hair loss in those predisposed to male pattern baldness and body hair growth. These effects will largely be dependent on genetic predispositions and should not be enhanced by the hormone’s interaction with the 5-alpha reductase enzyme. Like testosterone, Nandrolone is metabolized by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme, but it reduces it to DNH, not DHT reducing relative androgenicity. As with all Nandrolone compounds the use of 5-alpha reductase inhibitors like Finasteride is highly cautioned against when using Durabolin. While such inhibitors will protect against the androgenic side effects caused by testosterone, they will enhance the androgenic activity of Nandrolone. It is also the androgenic nature of Durabolin that is responsible for virilization symptoms in women. While only mildly androgenic, there is enough translating action to promote symptoms. Common virilization symptoms include body hair growth, a deepening of the vocal chords and clitoral enlargement. It is possible for a woman to use Durabolin without virilization symptoms, and most will find Durabolin easier to control in this regard compared to Deca Durabolin. However, low doses will be the key along with very short-term use. The issue of individual response will also play a massive role. Regardless, there are better steroids for performance female athletes to choose. If Durabolin is used and virilization symptoms begin to show for any reason, discontinue use immediately at their onset and they will fade away. If the symptoms are ignored, they may become irreversible.
 
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