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The Official Americans' Season 4: Lies and Spies. Can everyone be on the same Paige?
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Arkady is gonna defect...I feel it
Incogni' Rodney
not2c
Why wouldn't the FBI lock down that park and use all resources available to get to Martha. They should have been combing that park on feet and all entrances/exits should have been covered. The FBI took a completely lackadaisical approach in regards to recovering Martha, how some of you can't see that is beyond me. FBI has been dumbed down since Season 2. Show is getting stale and a new dynamic is needed. They dropped the ball letting the KGB recover Martha, either she should have died or the FBI should have gotten her. KGB stay winning. 
KalKal
Superstar
Yeah, there was something suspicious about the way she all of a sudden had her own pilot available to fly Martha to Cuba. Maybe her pilot is Claudia's van driver.
It's an enormous National Park, not some spot down the street with a few picnic tables and a swing. It's nearly 2000 acres. And it's the 80s.
Like someone else said, it's where Chandra Levy's body went unfound for over a year in 2000.
Spare me the excuses breh.Let's act like looking for a dead body is the same as looking for a living person. We all know it ain't. And its not like those cops searched that park for an entire year before finding her body. In fact they didn't even search more than half of it, they had no clue she was even there for sure. So this point, really isn't a point.
Also its not like they are looking for some murderer, this is a got damn mole that infiltrated the FBI, gave away secrets and has a direct link to a KGB agent, we saw proof of what maybe a handful of agents onsite? Mostly sitting in their cars
FOH this should have been a full on search and seize, because they know if the KGB gets her she disappears forever or she ends up dead. The approach by the FBI was shyt. And this park is located in DC, a bunch of different agencies could have been called in for assistance if the FBI didn't have the manpower themselves. Y'all keep
for this show though.
It does no wrong.
Incogni' Rodney
not2c
They knew exactly where Martha was and she was on foot. Stan was at the bridge she was at a couple minutes earlier then she has the convo w/Elizabeth, gets punched and disappears out of no where. All in broad daylight w/the FBI trying to track down an american w/KGB ties. It doesn't mean the show is garbage overall but that was poor writing no doubt. Let me put it like this, if the writers wanted it to be that Martha was caught by the FBI would it have seemed impossible or some shyt for them to have found her that day?
KalKal
Superstar
I think it was a lot longer than just a couple of minutes between when Martha was on the bridge and when Stan searched it. The name of the park where the first phone call was made wasn't "Rock Creek Park", it was some other park.
They were in the FBI office when they got the tapped phone call. Then means they had to drive all the way to the (other) park to get to the phone. When they got there they said they were searching a 1.5-2 mile radius around the payphone. They didn't actually know she went to the bridge at all. Stan just *guessed* that she might have gone in that direction because he remembered seeing that bridge in one of Martha's pictures.
In the mean time, Martha kept walking and called Phil from a different payphone that she said was by the trailhead in Rock Creek Park. So the two payphones weren't really that close together.
This tells me it was actually WELL written, that either scenario could've happened and been completely believable in the context of the show/episode.
But sure, the writing sucks.
Incogni' Rodney
not2c
Good post.. I'm still not sure it's believable that she just got away like that on foot with the FBI on her trail in broad daylight tho. Whether they were a couple minutes behind or 20 mins behind, that's still relatively close to a person on foot and having the FBI and all of their resources after you especially if they're looking for someone w/KGB ties during the height of the Cold War.
This tells me it was actually WELL written, that either scenario could've happened and been completely believable in the context of the show/episode.
But sure, the writing sucks.
Lol you just said it's completely believable the FBI could've got Martha in this episode which is what I was trying to say the whole time so why you acting like my opinion is so crazy or some shyt then? I didn't say the writing on the show in general is poor, like I said I like the show.. but that shyt was horrible. The writers made it seem like Stan and the FBI were gonna catch her just to ramp up the drama/action, but then made the FBI stupid as fukk again just because they still have a role for Martha in the show. That's not good writing, it's cheap.
I just went back and rewatched the phone call/ park scene. When Martha called her parents she was at Woodley Park which is where Stan and the FBI went to go find her. Also where the Taft Bridge is.
When she called Phil she said she was at Rock Creek Park trailhead. Which is a few miles away from Woodley Park. Not hard to walk from one park to another in the half hour it took the FBI to get to Woodley Park.
I know some of you think they are dumbing down the FBI, but if the FBI wasn't looking at the right park it wouldn't be hard for Liz to walk Martha to her car and drive away. Even when Stan said to extend the FBI search 1.5 miles it he asked for them to extend it out east and west. Martha was already outside of their search area. Martha was north of them.
We also are tricked by the shows sequences shown. We don't know if by the time Stan is walking up on the bridge Martha is already picked up by the KGB? We assumed that she was still out there because they want the tension and for the the viewers to think they are going to find her. We don't know for sure.
Is this show flawed? Of course. All shows are. Is this show well written? Absolutely. Last episode was one of them too. We all assumed that they were in the same park nearby so they should have found her. We were all wrong.