Well, if him and Greene aren't panning out, this team is still five years away.
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tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
After y'all give Gleyber Torres $150 mil y'all should be marginally better
blues_funk_reggae
Veteran
Steve Traschel used to throw 5 innings in 4 hours and 30 mins and he never needed Tommy John surgery, just saying 
Too good for Harris. He'd rather give IKF $4.2 million for one year and hope he turns it around.
No wonder Ty Cobb hit .400
Who is turning double plays with that shyt on their hands?
But those would've been errors not hits
WhatsGoodTy
Ya feel me
Pisses me off.
Because he's putting the blame on innings that he's thrown across all levels of baseball. And sure. That's at least part of it. But I don't think it's the innings itself. It's these guys going max effort for 10-12 years going back to high school.
Nolan Ryan threw 98 mph almost every pitch and hit 300 plus innings countless times
i really don't know its maybe its just guys use to pitch through pain and injuries but now the slightest sign and you are shutdown
i really don't know its maybe its just guys use to pitch through pain and injuries but now the slightest sign and you are shutdown
Spidey Man
Superstar
If I had my way, I would ease on the clock. I'll make it a flat 25 seconds, and I would get pitchers and teams to ease up on the max effort. Pitching is already inherently dangerous, and since pitchers are babied, they don't have the strength or ability to handle it for long periods. I would also start getting pitchers to go longer. There were less injuries when pitchers went 7+.
It's possible Nolan was just a freak.Nolan Ryan threw 98 mph almost every pitch and hit 300 plus innings countless times
i really don't know its maybe its just guys use to pitch through pain and injuries but now the slightest sign and you are shutdown
But he was known for his conditioning.
Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens might be the two hardest training pitchers ever.
I think some of it is analytics, I think some of it is specialization too early. Like Nolan Ryan probably threw a baseball every day as kid. But, he likely only had the one baseball season as kid. Where now days kids, have baseball season all year long, then high school, then college, minors. I think arms just get blown out.Nolan Ryan threw 98 mph almost every pitch and hit 300 plus innings countless times
i really don't know its maybe its just guys use to pitch through pain and injuries but now the slightest sign and you are shutdown
So I do feel there is more wear and tear on arms even though it seems like guys pitched way longer, etc in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. I think the influx of analytics doesn't hurt though. Like x guy is not good the third time through the lineup. So that can impact outings. Pitch counts on young arms also plays a role.
Clemens trained hard but its obvious he got on the juice heavy starting in Toronto