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Was Caleb getting that much hate? He was pretty irrelevant most of the year

Harbaugh and scUM too low.

McCord got a LOT of hate this year, so did James Franklin (and rightfully so)...both should probably be higher

No Milroe? He caught a lot of hate after the rose bowl & earlier in the year

Deion got a LOT of hate too...how tf is he not listed if both Mich & Harbaugh are listed?

UMiami? They were irrelevant all year, who was hating on them?

Was anyone hating on Texas (besides OU)?

JJ McCarthy got hate, but that was more of criticism of being a "game manager" and for having games with 10 completions and shyt. It wasn't like he was getting hated on for anything he did off the field or for being lousy

Also surprised Dan Lanning isn't up there...he got a LOT of hate for his decisions on 4th down in that first matchup vs. Wash.
 

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Isn’t it lined up with conference winners also so it’s not just the Top 12 teams?Going to be some teams with shytty records that go ahead of teams with better ones.I doubt they get that many teams in.
Before the Pac-12 collapsed, the CFP had agreed upon a basic “6+6” qualification structure, wherein a half dozen conference champions would receive automatic bids and at-large teams would fill the other spots. The top four teams in a CFP ranking system would receive byes in the first round.

That structure meant that superleagues like the SEC could send as many as seven teams to the playoff, if they had the rankings to show for it, while at least one Group of 5 conference champion was guaranteed a spot, paving the way for the Cinderella effect that has dazzled in March Madness but mostly eluded the CFP.

Going forward, however, there may only be four Power leagues. The Pac-12 leftovers, Oregon State and Washington State, agreed to play a conference schedule with the Mountain West next year, though they won’t participate in the conference championship. It seems inconceivable that the new Pac-2 would get its own CFP slot—and commissioners have already suggested declining an automatic bid for any league without eight members. (That committee includes 10 FBS commissioners plus Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick—thought it’s unclear how long George Kliavkoff, the Pac-12’s commissioner, will remain on the board. The Board of Managers, which makes final decisions, is made up of university presidents.)

The proposed solution: adjust to a “5+7” format to accommodate four Power conference champions, one Group of 5 champion, and seven at-large bids. The committee may take a vote on Monday, before the national championship game, Yahoo Sports reported, to confirm this format and the rule about eight FBS teams
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So five conference winners(with the Power 4 teams getting a bye) and seven at large teams. So I imagine the SEC will at least get four at large bids. But yeah we could see a weird scenario where a 9-4 or 10-3 Big 12 gets a bye and a 11 or 12 win SEC school has to play a 1st round game
 

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Was Caleb getting that much hate? He was pretty irrelevant most of the year

Harbaugh and scUM too low.

McCord got a LOT of hate this year, so did James Franklin (and rightfully so)...both should probably be higher

No Milroe? He caught a lot of hate after the rose bowl & earlier in the year

Deion got a LOT of hate too...how tf is he not listed if both Mich & Harbaugh are listed?

UMiami? They were irrelevant all year, who was hating on them?

Was anyone hating on Texas (besides OU)?

JJ McCarthy got hate, but that was more of criticism of being a "game manager" and for having games with 10 completions and shyt. It wasn't like he was getting hated on for anything he did off the field or for being lousy

Also surprised Dan Lanning isn't up there...he got a LOT of hate for his decisions on 4th down in that first matchup vs. Wash.
I guess people learning he was overrated is considered hate
 

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Before the Pac-12 collapsed, the CFP had agreed upon a basic “6+6” qualification structure, wherein a half dozen conference champions would receive automatic bids and at-large teams would fill the other spots. The top four teams in a CFP ranking system would receive byes in the first round.

That structure meant that superleagues like the SEC could send as many as seven teams to the playoff, if they had the rankings to show for it, while at least one Group of 5 conference champion was guaranteed a spot, paving the way for the Cinderella effect that has dazzled in March Madness but mostly eluded the CFP.

Going forward, however, there may only be four Power leagues. The Pac-12 leftovers, Oregon State and Washington State, agreed to play a conference schedule with the Mountain West next year, though they won’t participate in the conference championship. It seems inconceivable that the new Pac-2 would get its own CFP slot—and commissioners have already suggested declining an automatic bid for any league without eight members. (That committee includes 10 FBS commissioners plus Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick—thought it’s unclear how long George Kliavkoff, the Pac-12’s commissioner, will remain on the board. The Board of Managers, which makes final decisions, is made up of university presidents.)

The proposed solution: adjust to a “5+7” format to accommodate four Power conference champions, one Group of 5 champion, and seven at-large bids. The committee may take a vote on Monday, before the national championship game, Yahoo Sports reported, to confirm this format and the rule about eight FBS teams
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So five conference winners(with the Power 4 teams getting a bye) and seven at large teams. So I imagine the SEC will at least get four at large bids. But yeah we could see a weird scenario where a 9-4 or 10-3 Big 12 gets a bye and a 11 or 12 win SEC school has to play a 1st round game
Group of 5 doesn’t deserve a slot anymore. The group of 5 is extra trash now
 

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Projected SEC standings from the athletic
TEAMRECORD
LSU8-0
Georgia7-1
Missouri7-1
Texas7-1
Alabama6-2
Ole Miss6-2
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Tennessee
5-3
Auburn3-5
Kentucky3-5
Texas A&M3-5
Oklahoma3-5
South Carolina2-6
Florida2-6
Arkansas1-7
Mississippi State1-7
Vanderbilt0-8

Quick observations, explanations​

LSU, unbeaten? Yeah, it seems a stretch. But there’s no Georgia or Texas on the schedule. The toughest games (Alabama, Ole Miss and Oklahoma) are at home.

Similarly, are we this high on Missouri? Not exactly, but the schedule makes it easier to look like it. No Georgia, Texas or LSU. It gets Oklahoma at home.

The flip side: This down on Arkansas? Not particularly, and would feel a lot better picking the Razorbacks to be 4-4 in the conference. But there’s no Vanderbilt, or even Florida. And yes, we are down on the Gators, but that down? If we were picking a general record range for Florida, as well as Arkansas and Oklahoma, we’d be more generous. But the task here was to pick the individual games and let the records fall where they may.

As for Alabama, yes it got dinged here for no longer having the GOAT head coach. The Georgia game was specifically flipped, and it was tempting to pick Tennessee, with that game in Knoxville.

SEC championship​

LSU vs. … ???

The SEC hasn’t announced its tiebreakers. But those are not expected to diverge much from the current ones to determine the division champions. The above scenario would be a three-way tie. The first tiebreaker in the division era was head-to-head record among the teams, and in this case, the only head-to-head matchup was Texas beating Georgia. So the Longhorns would get it … if that is the tiebreaker.

But when the Pac-12 (R.I.P.) got rid of divisions before the 2022 season, it tweaked its formula to say that if not everyone involved in a three-way (or more) tie has played each other, that tiebreaker is not invoked. The Pac-12’s next tiebreaker is record among common opponents. The teams all three teams have played. But that was just one team — Mississippi State — and all three won. That also covers the next tiebreaker, so it then goes to the fourth one: “Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (i.e., the strength of conference schedule).”

Georgia: 33-31

Texas: 20-44

Missouri: 19-45

So Georgia wins that tiebreaker. Then again, in the new CFP system, did the Bulldogs want to win the tiebreaker?

College Football Playoff​

The top four conference champions will get the top four seeds and byes into the quarterfinals. So there is motivation to get to Atlanta. The game will still have meaning, with the LSU-Georgia winner getting a valuable bye.

But it could be argued that by losing, Georgia would endanger its Playoff spot — or at least fall out of getting a home game in the first round. Would it be better to not play in the game at all and preserve that one-loss record as Texas and Missouri (both 11-1) are doing in this scenario? There could be two-loss teams that risk taking a third loss in the SEC championship. Coaches have been wondering aloud about that, hinting they would prefer to give their players a week of rest rather than play in a game that could hurt more than help their case.

Meanwhile, what about the case for other at-large teams? Carrying this hypothetical season forward, it’s hard to see any one-loss team missing out, along with the loser of the SEC championship. So that’s four teams. But Alabama and Ole Miss are sitting there at 10-2 — and Alabama has a win over Missouri, which has a relatively weak schedule strength. So is Texas’, but it would own a win over Georgia.

Arguments will ensue. And that’s not even taking into account the national field and how many quality teams emanate from the other three power conferences.

It’s going to get heated. It will be complicated. And it will be here soon.
 

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-QBs who played in this season’s NFL divisional playoffs of 8 teams: one 5*, two 4*, and five 3* QBs composite ranking coming out of high school.
- RB, WR, DT, DE are the positions where there's the higher correlation between rankings and getting drafted, but we're talking 50% not 100%.
-QB, OL, LB, CB are some of the lower ones, especially when looking at performance in the NFL.
-There is an overall correlation between higher ranked classes and winning college championships.
 

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-QBs who played in this season’s NFL divisional playoffs of 8 teams: one 5*, two 4*, and five 3* QBs composite ranking coming out of high school.
- RB, WR, DT, DE are the positions where there's the higher correlation between rankings and getting drafted, but we're talking 50% not 100%.
-QB, OL, LB, CB are some of the lower ones, especially when looking at performance in the NFL.
-There is an overall correlation between higher ranked classes and winning college championships.

No surprise here. Most of the people responsible for ranking these kids aren't qualified to do so and they don't see near enough kids anyway.
 

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Then why wasn't he a 5* top 5 type of player if everyone knew he'd be on the level?

Not saying he was a scrub, but he wasn't in the HS rating mix of can't miss/future top 5 draft pick

Wasn't JJ a 5* did he not develop at Mich?

Ok we are doing that thing where we act like what i said was some diss and not some actuality

Rankings don’t mean shyt, we all know this, they help some but it’s so much politics to it

Idk not all offspring are like their pops, but between the super maga bros and lil Murda you could see from day one they were different, it’s a difference between lil Barry and lil rice and lil Ray ain’t none of them got close to what their dads got


I gave credit they put in work(osu) , but this is a guy who’s dad is a gold jacket wearing mf, he could show him plenty too, also Marv would have been the man anywhere long as he had a decent qb,



Don't think him (or the other buffoon) is referring to ratings as much as they are who is dad is. But again, if that's the case then we can cancel out most programs for these kids development cuz the majority of them have fam or family friends in the game that they've been working with since they were jits. Obviously, no one is gonna claim 100% of a mf's development but it's hard to even put a # or % on that for Joe Blow no name, let alone the mf with access to all kinds of resources that he prob had. But there's a reason WR's been coming thru the assembly line here, J. Smith being the latest, and it ain't just to "get the exterior waxed and shined".

I’m just saying his starting point and others are not in the same, i mean if Murda sr your dad are you really trying to mess up and have him mad at you ??

The Coli: 1. Jayden Daniels

Stop no one hates that man… maybe the Bama buys but i don’t remember them saying much
 

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That wasn’t what was said. Moore wasn’t the HC against Bama and Washington. You’re dumb as hell trying to act like Moore won those games lmao.

And Eli Drinkwitz shat on OSU so it’s not that impressive.

I said he was the oc, pointed out how he was the oc that got them their wins, he also was the coach that beat psu and osu, and saying Eli beat osu in a bowl game with the 3rd string qb that’s why i said it be an insult to say you went to Shelton State
 

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i had to go listen to that we dont give a damn michigan song. ive never heard of that
 
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