The OFFICIAL 2023 College Football RANDOM THOUGHTS Thread

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So it sounds like yall are on board with Napier so far…how long do yall give him to get yall consistently being a top 25 team again?
keeping it 100, outside of UGA, there’s no one on our 2024 schedule that has a HUGE talent gap than us. I think talent wise we’re right there with Miami, UT, Texas, LSU, etc. We’ve lost A LOT of close games his two years so that’s a good sign of the team showing fight and promise, next year to me 10+ wins is my expectations. A lot of teams we face will have new starting QB’s while we’ll be returning Mertz and now with Max Brown getting experience too, the QB room had NO excuses anymore
 

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Tennessee beat a weak ass UConn squad and jumped 4 spots. Got its ass blasted by an average of 28.5 pts the last two weeks and still top 25. Oregon State lost by 2 to the #4 team in the country and had a more precipitous drop than the Vols and they’re much better than UK or UTk or anyone else on your schedule not named Mizzou. FOH with this dumb ass logic bruh. Tennessee and Kentucky aren’t good no matter how much you try to sway us they are to boost your schedule.

Breh your anger got you all over the place. Calm down. Context is key and not surprisingly your emotional rant has none of it. You comparing the Vols rising in the ranking after beating UConn to Oregon State dropping after losing to Washington? And Oregon State isn’t better than Ole Miss, stop it

And I don’t need to boost anything, Dawgs are in the CFP when we beat Bama next wk, but this weird obsession you have with Kentucky football is weird. They were a top 20 team in the rankings when we played them, they’re not that now. If you’re ranked, you’re a good team. Good doesn’t mean great or elite but it does mean something no matter how much you attempt to discredit it b/c you have an agenda against certain programs and conferences
 

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keeping it 100, outside of UGA, there’s no one on our 2024 schedule that has a HUGE talent gap than us. I think talent wise we’re right there with Miami, UT, Texas, LSU, etc. We’ve lost A LOT of close games his two years so that’s a good sign of the team showing fight and promise, next year to me 10+ wins is my expectations. A lot of teams we face will have new starting QB’s while we’ll be returning Mertz and now with Max Brown getting experience too, the QB room had NO excuses anymore

I don’t think yall are as talented as Texas, or offensively with LSU but Daniels will be gone so yall should be right there with them in conference. But if I were yall I’d be more concerned with Ole Miss and Mizzou as programs on the rise that are better than yall right now
 

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:mjlol: oh ok you so you mean to tell me you recognize good teams better than coaches, administrators and the media who are all paid to watch games every wk. Ok got it :mjlol:

UK was ranked because of an undefeated record, 2 SEC conference wins including a dominant win over Florida and a stingy top 10 defense. It wasn’t because of a “cupcake” schedule b/c like I said everyone in FBS plays a similar type of schedule at that point in the season

And like I said, UK was a good team at that time, you using revisionist history to justify your point
:dead:apparently I can because I said UK wasn't a good team when they were ranking them as a top 20 team. :dahell: what are you even arguing at this point? You still think UK is a good team? Apparently I was right and the people you choose to lean on to tell you who is good and who isn't was wrong in this case. You do realize ultimately UK wasn't a good team just as I and others stated. So we weren't wrong breh.

UK was a good team at the time :heh:no they weren't lmao. They were never good, you just aren't able to deduce that.
 

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:dead:apparently I can because I said UK wasn't a good team when they were ranking them as a top 20 team. :dahell: what are you even arguing at this point? You still think UK is a good team? Apparently I was right and the people you choose to lean on to tell you who is good and who isn't was wrong in this case. You do realize ultimately UK wasn't a good team just as I and others stated. So we weren't wrong breh.

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I said at the time they were a good team. Can you read? The ranking was justified that they were a top 20 team, they haven’t played well since and they aren’t ranked. No one is arguing that UK is a good team right now and I’ve never argued that. My point is that they were legitimately a top 20 team at the time which they were and was validated by coaches, media, admin. You acting like I made up some random ranking b/c they’re an SEC school

Again y’all are arguing they weren’t ever good and that’s not true. Thats like saying USC was never good b/c they aren’t ranked right now.
 

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Breh your anger got you all over the place. Calm down. Context is key and not surprisingly your emotional rant has none of it. You comparing the Vols rising in the ranking after beating UConn to Oregon State dropping after losing to Washington? And Oregon State isn’t better than Ole Miss, stop it

And I don’t need to boost anything, Dawgs are in the CFP when we beat Bama next wk, but this weird obsession you have with Kentucky football is weird. They were a top 20 team in the rankings when we played them, they’re not that now. If you’re ranked, you’re a good team. Good doesn’t mean great or elite but it does mean something no matter how much you attempt to discredit it b/c you have an agenda against certain programs and conferences
You’re the prime example I used before your team had their recent success of what UGA fans would act like when they finally fulfilled their promise. Are y’all great? fukk yea! Has your schedule the past two seasons been weak? fukk yea! Both can be true.

What are you talking about? I just mentioned UK today because y’all brought it up. My beef with you was you hyping up these last three games yall had that bumped your SOS from the mid 90s to upper quarter of the sport and pretending it was a juggernaut. Funny thing is you’re the only UGA fan on here doing it.
 

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My point is that they were legitimately a top 20 team at the time which they were and was validated by coaches, media, admin.
I’m in a group chat with nikkas who played there and are active in supporting and even they wouldn’t make the leaps you make. Here’s one comment just asking them about their game this weekend and this season:

UK played poorly and the HC is always on the hook for that. But if you’ve watched any UK games and you have a base level knowledge of Football you knew that we were not going to win based on our QB performance this season. We’ve misleadingly blown peopl out with defensive TDs and RB dominance. But You can’t beat the UGAs of the world with a bad QB.
Being Fully Honest , UK will host UF at the end of the month. And UK will be the WORST 4-0 team in America. Crazy thing is if they beat UF and go 5-0 they will probably be ranked before the UGA game.
We have a decent/solid team overall. But I said this week one versus Ball State. Our QB is bad. He’s just not good. He really had me fooled in the offseason. And against good teams your QB has to be decent. We don’t need him to be superhuman but he kinda sucks. Not sure why he was so highly touted. The best part of our offense is our run game. And Louisville has an excellent defense. So we can’t just run on them.
So if nikkas who are vastly more invested in that program than you can admit this, why can’t you?
 

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You’re the prime example I used before your team had their recent success of what UGA fans would act like when they finally fulfilled their promise. Are y’all great? fukk yea! Has your schedule the past two seasons been weak? fukk yea! Both can be true.

What are you talking about? I just mentioned UK today because y’all brought it up. My beef with you was you hyping up these last three games yall had that bumped your SOS from the mid 90s to upper quarter of the sport and pretending it was a juggernaut. Funny thing is you’re the only UGA fan on here doing it.

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We finally get a slate of games against ranked teams in a row (which it didn’t look like that would happen coming into the season) by beating Mizzou, Ole Miss, UT and you’re acting like I’m hyping that up. I’m not hyping shyt I’m bringing attention to the fact that we have actually played a decent schedule against quality opponents, which you’ve gone out of your way to discredit for the better part of 3 years. The whole UK thing started by me bringing to your attention that UK was a top 20 team when we played them in October, which sent you up the wall.

Are there cupcakes and underperforming conference teams on this year’s schedule? Yes. Have there been cupcakes and underperforming programs on our schedule the past couple seasons? Yes. But have we played and beat good in conference teams this season? Yes we have and I’ll continue to defend that point

Your whole point is “Everyone is overrated, no one is good outside of the 4 teams in the sport, and the SEC is the only conference that schedules cupcakes” so this whole discussion is moot
 

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I’m in a group chat with nikkas who played there and are active in supporting and even they wouldn’t make the leaps you make. Here’s one comment just asking them about their game this weekend and this season:




So if nikkas who are vastly more invested in that program than you can admit this, why can’t you?

Bro I don’t care about UK football, I’ve already made my point. Go back on your group chat and talk to your “boys” about UK football since it interests you so much
 

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I said at the time they were a good team. Can you read? The ranking was justified that they were a top 20 team, they haven’t played well since and they aren’t ranked. No one is arguing that UK is a good team right now and I’ve never argued that. My point is that they were legitimately a top 20 team at the time which they were and was validated by coaches, media, admin. You acting like I made up some random ranking b/c they’re an SEC school

Again y’all are arguing they weren’t ever good and that’s not true. Thats like saying USC was never good b/c they aren’t ranked right now.
Yes I can read but what you are failing to comprehend over and over again is at the time THEY WERE NEVER A GOOD TEAM. You thought they were a good team when they played their cupcake schedule and they were ranked as a sum of that. Then when they started to play better teams relative to the rest of their schedule you think they just all of a sudden wasn't a good team anymore. :mjlol: I hope you aren't being serious and just can't admit you were wrong. Despite their rankings some of us can look at other factors and realize a team isn't a good as their rankings says which was the case with this UK team. The rest of the season showed that to be true. I'm done with this :camby:
 

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I don’t care if we make a bowl with a win tomorrow since it’ll be some low tier bowl anyways against someone who’s inspired and will wash us.

I see what Napier wants to build at UF, you see it during the games what it CAN be, but he has to just stack talent, hire an OC, and get out of the way. The YOUNG talent is there, just gotta attack the portal HARD this offseason and get instant impact starters ala FSU. Can’t use the portal only for depth pieces like he did last cycle.

My wish list:

1. Hire an OC and give him full autonomy

2. Attack the portal to shore up the roster as NOBODY (besides EW3) should feel like they’re an automatic starter going into next year

3. Sure up the OT and DT spots via portal.

4. Hire a true ST and new S&C coaches.

Do those this offseason and we’ll turn the corner next year
I agree completely.

I think the offense actually isn't that bad really, but Napier needs to focus on being a game day manager, something which the @TheGreatShowtime correctly pointed out is a major weakness for him now. I think he's trying to do too much on gameday, and that's where some of these gaffes are coming from. I'd like to see a passing game coordinator tweak the WR routes. Honestly, I think Billy G has got to go and someone needs to be upgraded too. I'd also like to see him bush Sale and Stapleton, even though they seem to be capable of doing a decent job of coaching (as shown in year 1), as their OL recruiting and roster management has been weak, which I think played a factor in the OL being such ass this year.

Jury still out on Armstrong, but we've had 3 different DC's in the past 4 years and the defense has looked horrible each of the past 4 years. The difference between this year's defense and Grantham's defenses is that Grantham's defenses looked like ass with all upperclassmen playing, as Mullen and his staff always played seniority over talent. Armstrong's defense is young and has potential to be solid next year and possibly really good in 2025. Especially with the new recruits coming in. I read somewhere that the starting defensive roster is like 35% freshmen and the team that's closest to that is like at 25% (not sure which team that is). Also, schematically they seem to be in position to make plays unlike under Grantham and Toney where they'd be lost until the ball is snapped. But I think we need to see how the defense looks next year before making a judgment on Armstrong as we can't keep a revolving door of defensive coordinators and expect the defense to come together either.

So it sounds like yall are on board with Napier so far…how long do yall give him to get yall consistently being a top 25 team again?
For the most part.

I think he's done some good things with recruiting and putting together the NIL plan as well as helping the program modernize on the back end. He's also cleaned out the roster of Mullen malcontents and for better or for worse is playing a lot of young talent. His talent evaluation seems to be pretty solid, and I give him credit for turning Mertz into a serviceable qb which is something that I don't think anyone expected.

As I mentioned, his in-game decisions at times can be bad, but as I mentioned I think he bit off more than he can chew being the OC and that's why he needs to hire a play caller next year.

Ultimately, I knew that we were in for an ugly 5-10 stretch when we hired Mullen in 2017, so this wasn't unexpected for me. Maybe some other Florida fans who weren't expecting it might be freaking out a bit more, but I knew we were fukked when that hunchbacked con artist came off that plane. Napier was a bit too unproven for my taste when he was hired to replace Mullen and is making some novice mistakes, but I think he could learn from his mistakes and improve and I honestly don't think many coaches would have come into Florida and done a remarkable job coming into the situation that it was in at the end of Mullen's time here.

Even though the first 2 seasons have been ugly, I've come to learn to not jump to conclusions too much based on first 2 years. Muschamp won 11 games and played in a NY6 bowl his second season and then went 4-8 the next. Shark fukker won 10 games year 1, 9 games year 2 (but had to cancel a cupcake game due to the hurricane so probably would've won 10 had they rescheduled it) and won the division both times and then got fired year 3 with a squad that finished 4-7. Mullen won 10-11 games his first years and played in NY6 bowls, and then fell apart in year 3 despite having Kyle Trask with 2 first round receiving threats in Pitts and Toney. Year 3 has been the make or break year for all of the coaches we've hired post-Urban, and despite showing some promise the first 2 years, all of the last 3 coaches we hired got fired because they lost control of everything in year 3. That is the year where I feel like we'll really know if Napier is becoming successful in what he's trying to do or if he's just going to leave the next coach some talent to work with.

But if I were yall I’d be more concerned with Ole Miss and Mizzou as programs on the rise that are better than yall right now
Yes and no. I do agree that both those programs are in better standing than Florida right now, but I don't think that we should really sit around and worry about them either. We won't be playing Missouri annually any more, and while we play Ole Miss next year, but I am not totally sure if Missouri is on the rise. They definitely did their thing this year, but Drink was on the hot seat coming into this season and was having 6-7 type seasons annually until this year. They lose a lot of seniors, and I think Burden, next year, so we'll see if this was a one year thing or if they're really on the rise. It does seem he recruits well and gets players out of St. Louis, so maybe they will.

Either way, Florida needs to do what needs to be done to get its act together, so if it does, no need to worry. If it doesn't no need to worry because we'd need to clean house if that's the case. At the end of the day, the potential to win big at Florida is there, the right staff and university backing needs to be there to make it happen. It's as simple as that.
 

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If Texas wins the Big 12 could have three different 7-2 teams fighting for the 2nd spot in Dallas next week.


They lose and it could be four 7-2 teams for two spots
 

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Yes I can read but what you are failing to comprehend over and over again is at the time THEY WERE NEVER A GOOD TEAM. You thought they were a good team when they played their cupcake schedule and they were ranked as a sum of that. Then when they started to play better teams relative to the rest of their schedule you think they just all of a sudden wasn't a good team anymore. :mjlol: I hope you aren't being serious and just can't admit you were wrong. Despite their rankings some of us can look at other factors and realize a team isn't a good as their rankings says which was the case with this UK team. The rest of the season showed that to be true. I'm done with this :camby:

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