The OFFICIAL 2023 College Football RANDOM THOUGHTS Thread

PREDICT the NATIONAL CHAMPION


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Totally disagree. Lane has proven himself to be a good coach, what he’s done at Ole Miss is unprecedented and he only went to Florida for Florida Atlantic

Lane at TAMU is a good fit
I agree mostly, and I think Lane at TAMU could work, but I think Lane is hoping to get a shot at Alabama when Saban retires or is hoping the Florida job opens up in the near future.

Maybe Miami too, but I think that Cristobal will be there at least 5-6 years because his people want him there.
 

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:russ: this is fukking comical. You are making the exact argument that he pointed out was full of shyt, which it is. Who had UK played when they had a top 10 defense? That Florida team is not decent :mjlol:. The Vols don't deserve to be ranked. None of that shyt was justified. I think it's becoming apparent you only pay attention to rankings to judge a team.

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They had 2 SEC victories including destroying a then ranked Florida team. That early in the year most FBS schools have a similar type of schedule where they play a few cupcakes and maybe one or two conference games. You acting like the AP and College Football polls didn’t actually vote them top 20. It wasn’t me breh, it’s people who know a whole lot more about football than you and @Rhakim and @lucky lefty combined who agreed that they were a legitimate team.

And it’s possible for teams to have a disappointing season and still deserve to be ranked (ie the Vols)

But I don’t understand what yall are even arguing…yes UK isn’t good now, that’s been proven but at the time them being a top 20 team made sense. People thought USC was a CFP contender at one point this season but they aren’t even ranked. Opinions of these teams change throughout the season, not sure why that’s so difficult for yall to comprehend
 

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It’s weird how some CFB fans constantly bytch and complain about where mid SEC teams are ranked in the polls, folks don’t do this with other conferences :pachaha: 7-4 Clemson ranked right now and not a peep.
Because at least you can point to Clemson having a signature win. I don’t think they should be ranked and only ranked due to FSU needing a T25 W (can say the same for 3-loss LSU being inside the T15; ridiculous). But they have a better win than Tennessee or any of the other midcard SEC squads. Also hung tough with the season long #4 now #5 team in the nation. Their defense is pretty damn good. It’s the offense that’s failed them.
 

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The EXACT result happened that I said would happen.


Tennessee is somehow still ranked #21 by the playoff committee, the top 4-loss team in the country, despite a completely worthless OOC schedule and all four losses being blowouts....and one of those blowouts was to fukking 5-7 Florida. But they still need to be #21 in the playoff picture so the committee can claim all those SEC schools have a quality win.


So that helps the payoff committee justify Missouri being ranked #9, the top two-loss team in the country, despite Missouri playing 3 OOC cupcakes and being 0-2 against top-15 opponents (one of those being 8-3 LSU). Besides Tennessee who doesn't deserve to be there, the only top-25 team that Missouri has beaten is #19 Kansas State, and that squad hasn't beaten anyone all season either. So how the fukk do they justify Missouri at #9?


That exaggerated Missouri ranking, of course, is what allows the playoff committee to justify LSU at #13, the top three-loss team in the county, despite LSU being just 1-3 against ranked opponents this season and their only OOC wins being Grambling, Army, and Georgia State.


Now Alabama is at least back in #8 for now due to their complete lack of quality wins....but watch what happens if Alabama beats Georgia and they somehow use all these overrated SEC teams to justify leapfrogging bama up into the playoff.



It's a revolving door of mediocrity. How can they say all these squads have the ranking they deserve if the whole conference starts out with at least 3, sometimes 4 guarenteed wins on the schedule before the seasons even starts?


Schedule better OOC or these regular season rankings will never be meaningful and continue to circle around personal bias of the selectors.
Tennessee should not be ranked and it's an embarrassment that they are. I do think Missouri at #9 isn't unreasonable, their only two losses were against a potential heisman winning offense with LSU and they played tough against the #1 team who is on a 28 game winning streak and back=to-back national champions. Missouri also has a quality OOC win against K State.

I don't see anything wrong with them being #9. Looking at who they're ahead of, would you say that Louisville deserves to be ahead? There's an argument for that I think. But they also have some blemishes and have looked pretty suspect at times. I think Missouri vs UL would be a good game, with UL winning at Papa Johns stadium (or whatever it's called now) and Mizzou winning in CoMo and a neutral site. Would you put Penn State higher than Missouri? I wouldn't. Their offense is complete ass and they can't beat anyone with a pulse. Ole Miss? They do have losses to quality teams, Bama and Georgia. The Bama loss was somewhat competitive but they got absolutely destroyed by Georgia. Both Missouri and Ole Miss played Between The Hedges, so they could be compared directly in that regards. OU? I would say no, while they have a great win against Texas they have some bad losses and have also played down to competition way too many times (Cincy, UCF, BYU) to say they're top 10 or better. Everyone else beyond that is either a G5 team or has at least 3 losses.

So I'm not arguing against your overall point about the SEC having some overrated teams (I completely agree about Tennessee by the way), but I disagree with your argument about Missouri. I think them being ranked somewhere between 9-11 is totally justified when you consider the resumes of the teams they're ahead of in the rankings.
 

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Interested in what the Florida brehs think about Florida and Napier right now, they lose tomorrow, no bowl game, program seems stuck in neutral @Jplaya2023 @malbaker86 @TheGreatShowtime @earl n water

I don't see us winning anything with that idiot as head coach. I checked out on him last season when I saw the bone headed coaching decisions he was making. I think they'll give him one more season because he's bringing in a decent class next year.
 

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Interested in what the Florida brehs think about Florida and Napier right now, they lose tomorrow, no bowl game, program seems stuck in neutral @Jplaya2023 @malbaker86 @TheGreatShowtime @earl n water
I'm a Florida fan. I think Napier needs to make some off season moves: hire an OC, change up some other staff, hit the portal much harder than he did last season to bring in some talent.

A win tomorrow would be great, but unless he loses by like 30+ points or some bullshyt like that, I'm not going to change my view on what he's doing based on what happens tomorrow.
 

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Last game of season, shoot today is like miami football day, not too often you get canes/dolphins on same day back 2 back.. Got high school playoff game later also.. Gonna enjoy this one :mjcry: :wow:
 

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They had 2 SEC victories including destroying a then ranked Florida team. That early in the year most FBS schools have a similar type of schedule where they play a few cupcakes and maybe one or two conference games. You acting like the AP and College Football polls didn’t actually vote them top 20. It wasn’t me breh, it’s people who know a whole lot more about football than you and @Rhakim and @lucky lefty combined who agreed that they were a legitimate team.

And it’s possible for teams to have a disappointing season and still deserve to be ranked (ie the Vols)

But I don’t understand what yall are even arguing…yes UK isn’t good now, that’s been proven but at the time them being a top 20 team made sense. People thought USC was a CFP contender at one point this season but they aren’t even ranked. Opinions of these teams change throughout the season, not sure why that’s so difficult for yall to comprehend
The point that you are missing is some of us are able to recognize when a team isn’t all that good despite their rank. You are basically admitting the only reason UK was ranked was because of their cupcake schedule. Well I can assess that, and determine that hey, this really isn’t a top 20 team, whereas you say they are ranked 20, therefore they are a good team. What’s funny is you are acting like we didn’t try to tell you this earlier in the season but you held steadfast that UK was a good team, now here we are and you still just can’t admit you were wrong. UK was NEVER a good team this season you just caught on to that much slowly than others.
 

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The point that you are missing is some of us are able to recognize when a team isn’t all that good despite their rank. You are basically admitting the only reason UK was ranked was because of their cupcake schedule. Well I can assess that, and determine that hey, this really isn’t a top 20 team, whereas you say they are ranked 20, therefore they are a good team. What’s funny is you are acting like we didn’t try to tell you this earlier in the season but you held steadfast that UK was a good team, now here we are and you still just can’t admit you were wrong. UK was NEVER a good team this season you just caught on to that much slowly than others.

:mjlol: oh ok you so you mean to tell me you recognize good teams better than coaches, administrators and the media who are all paid to watch games every wk. Ok got it :mjlol:

UK was ranked because of an undefeated record, 2 SEC conference wins including a dominant win over Florida and a stingy top 10 defense. It wasn’t because of a “cupcake” schedule b/c like I said everyone in FBS plays a similar type of schedule at that point in the season

And like I said, UK was a good team at that time, you using revisionist history to justify your point
 

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And it’s possible for teams to have a disappointing season and still deserve to be ranked (ie the Vols)
Tennessee beat a weak ass UConn squad and jumped 4 spots. Got its ass blasted by an average of 28.5 pts the last two weeks and still top 25. Oregon State lost by 2 to the #4 team in the country and had a more precipitous drop than the Vols and they’re much better than UK or UTk or anyone else on your schedule not named Mizzou. FOH with this dumb ass logic bruh. Tennessee and Kentucky aren’t good no matter how much you try to sway us they are to boost your schedule.
 

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Interested in what the Florida brehs think about Florida and Napier right now, they lose tomorrow, no bowl game, program seems stuck in neutral @Jplaya2023 @malbaker86 @TheGreatShowtime @earl n water

I don’t care if we make a bowl with a win tomorrow since it’ll be some low tier bowl anyways against someone who’s inspired and will wash us.

I see what Napier wants to build at UF, you see it during the games what it CAN be, but he has to just stack talent, hire an OC, and get out of the way. The YOUNG talent is there, just gotta attack the portal HARD this offseason and get instant impact starters ala FSU. Can’t use the portal only for depth pieces like he did last cycle.

My wish list:

1. Hire an OC and give him full autonomy

2. Attack the portal to shore up the roster as NOBODY (besides EW3) should feel like they’re an automatic starter going into next year

3. Sure up the OT and DT spots via portal.

4. Hire a true ST and new S&C coaches.

Do those this offseason and we’ll turn the corner next year
 

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I'm a Florida fan. I think Napier needs to make some off season moves: hire an OC, change up some other staff, hit the portal much harder than he did last season to bring in some talent.

A win tomorrow would be great, but unless he loses by like 30+ points or some bullshyt like that, I'm not going to change my view on what he's doing based on what happens tomorrow.

I don’t care if we make a bowl with a win tomorrow since it’ll be some low tier bowl anyways against someone who’s inspired and will wash us.

I see what Napier wants to build at UF, you see it during the games what it CAN be, but he has to just stack talent, hire an OC, and get out of the way. The YOUNG talent is there, just gotta attack the portal HARD this offseason and get instant impact starters ala FSU. Can’t use the portal only for depth pieces like he did last cycle.

So it sounds like yall are on board with Napier so far…how long do yall give him to get yall consistently being a top 25 team again?
 
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