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Looks like there was a new proposal today. Can anyone tell me why the owners want to play less games than the players? Seems like the NBA and NHL are trying to play as many as reasonably possible.
 

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Looks like there was a new proposal today. Can anyone tell me why the owners want to play less games than the players? Seems like the NBA and NHL are trying to play as many as reasonably possible.

The more games played, the more money they lose. They make a lot of money with ticket sales and concession. Playing in an empty stadium means no money for the owners. The players get paid per game. The more games they play, the more they have to pay the players, even tho they not getting the income they normally do
 

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The more games played, the more money they lose. They make a lot of money with ticket sales and concession. Playing in an empty stadium means no money for the owners. The players get paid per game. The more games they play, the more they have to pay the players, even tho they not getting the income they normally do

Ah, so it looks like they are going to have the opposite problem of the NBA and NHL then, since they stand to lose more money by not playing
 

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I just recently got a refund from the 10 games I bought earlier in the year. Got one more to go, but I probably gotta wait since in July.
 

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Sounds like PA will decline it

Yeah. That's what they been saying. But I don't see why they would. It looks like a fair deal and at the end of the day MLB doesn't even need their approval. They can go with a 40 game season if they want
 

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Yeah. That's what they been saying. But I don't see why they would. It looks like a fair deal and at the end of the day MLB doesn't even need their approval. They can go with a 40 game season if they want
yeah, but that would be at 100% of the prorated salaries I believe
 

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I think that's a fair proposal

It's the same cut in pay as the rest of the proposals. With an added stipulation that players sign a waiver releasing teams from culpability if they fail to keep them safe.

So no, it's not fair. It's still ownership wanting to reopen negotiations on already agreed to pay cuts.
 

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It's the same cut in pay as the rest of the proposals. With an added stipulation that players sign a waiver releasing teams from culpability if they fail to keep them safe.

So no, it's not fair. It's still ownership wanting to reopen negotiations on already agreed to pay cuts.


If I'm an owner and I'm not getting the expected revenue from tickets and concession, I'm not going to want to prorate shyt. I can pay you according to what I make from you. It's like when teams sign expensive players, they raise prices on things.
I'm not saying it's a great proposal to the players but I think it's fair, especially given that MLB doesn't need to the PA to agree. MLB can pick any schedule they want.
I do agree with you tho, it is fukked up that MLB initially agreed to pay them a 100% prorated salary and then switched it up on them
 

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If I'm an owner and I'm not getting the expected revenue from tickets and concession, I'm not going to want to prorate shyt. I can pay you according to what I make from you. It's like when teams sign expensive players, they raise prices on things.
I'm not saying it's a great proposal to the players but I think it's fair, especially given that MLB doesn't need to the PA to agree. MLB can pick any schedule they want.
I do agree with you tho, it is fukked up that MLB initially agreed to pay them a 100% prorated salary and then switched it up on them
If they didn't manipulate service time and negotiate in bad faith so often, it could be seen as a decent proposal. But they're like Republicans who start at the extreme then inch their way to the middle. They don't want to open their books but cry poverty in the same breath. These owners aren't hurting and they'll make more money without fans than they're letting on.

The players are also the ones putting themselves at risk to catch Covid-19 while getting less pay.
 

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If I'm an owner and I'm not getting the expected revenue from tickets and concession, I'm not going to want to prorate shyt. I can pay you according to what I make from you. It's like when teams sign expensive players, they raise prices on things.
I'm not saying it's a great proposal to the players but I think it's fair, especially given that MLB doesn't need to the PA to agree. MLB can pick any schedule they want.
I do agree with you tho, it is fukked up that MLB initially agreed to pay them a 100% prorated salary and then switched it up on them

The owners and the union agreed to prorated salaries in March. Now they want more cuts. The players are in the right to tell em to kick rocks.

They're raising prices regardless of how much they're paying players. The two aren't related. They set ticket prices to maximize attendance/profits, period.

The owners still get money from massive TV deals and the MLBAM deals. Unless they open their books to an independent arbiter and prove their claimed loses, I'm not going to believe them. Labor > owners.
 

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The owners and the union agreed to prorated salaries in March. Now they want more cuts. The players are in the right to tell em to kick rocks.

They're raising prices regardless of how much they're paying players. The two aren't related. They set ticket prices to maximize attendance/profits, period.

The owners still get money from massive TV deals and the MLBAM deals. Unless they open their books to an independent arbiter and prove their claimed loses, I'm not going to believe them. Labor > owners.

I believe the owners agreed to prorated salaries before knowing there wouldn't be any fans. Regardless of the money they have, tickets and concession attributes to about 40% of that. We all know they gonna make money regardless. And they are in the business of making money, not what's fair or right. At the end of the day, they can decide the amount of games that get played
 

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If they don't get this done. :smh:

Man, even if they could get approved for 30% attendance.

I want a 100+ game schedule. Anything less seems like a waste. Like who's going to gloat over a WS title this year if they play a 58-game season?
 
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