The Official 2019 New York Mets off-season thread: Steve Cohen NOT buying team; Team still for sale

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Sign Kimbrel and you're spending the same amount of money or less than you are on Cano. I wasn't too high on Kimbrel either due to his erratic nature especially in the postseason.
Sandy was fixated on Jay Bruce. And I still don't know why.
 

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I think Mickeys gone before tomorrows game.
Lineup going forward should be:

McNeil
Rosario
Alonso
Davis
Ramos
Nimmo
Cano
Lagares

You can really move around 5-7 as you see fit, but the top 4 are who are most reliable atm until Conforto is back. The offense is the issue that must be addressed immediately. Get the lineup right somehow.

I've wanted Buck as manager for a bit now due to his old school no nonsense personality. He's not perfect and not the long term answer but he's a real baseball manager. If he were at the helm this past series, Cano would have been pulled Friday and been benched Saturday.

Seasons on the line with this homestand.
 

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Cano will never get benched, he has 5 years left on his contact at 20+ million a year. He's our number 3 hitter for the next 5 years. The Cano trade will go down as the worst trade in franchise history, worse than Ryan for Fregosi, worse than Dykstra and McDowell for Samual, worse than Kazmir for zambrano. Next year Kelenic will be a top 20-30 prospect, Cano will continue to get even worse than he is now, but his contract will cripple the Mets financial flexibility for the next 5 years.
 

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Mickey deserves to be fired, he is not a good manager, but this is also not his fault. This all falls on the Wilpons. Look at the teams history going back to when Doubleday bought the team in the early 80's. He turned them from the biggest joke in baseball to a world champion within a few years. Not just that, they had a great farm. Doubleday was a hands Off owner that let the baseball people do their work. After 86 Fred Wilpon became a majority owner and everything started to gradually crumble. Fred was a hands on owner and who thought he knew baseball. The Mets became the biggest joke in baseball by 93. Things didn't change until 98 when Doubleday finally said enough is enough and overruled Wilpon on trading for Piazza. Fred Wilpon did not want to trade for Piazza and he didn't want to resign Piazza. Doubleday left and the Mets went back to that mediocrity of the early 90's until Minaya became GM and they were hands off for a season or two. The Mets were a game away from going to the world series. But then the Wilpons couldn't help themselves and it all went down hill again. Then Sandy came in and MLB basically forced the Wilpons to butt out and it took a while but they went to a world series. But the Wilpons can't help themselves. Close enough is good enough for them, now we're back to being a joke. Ive been a fan since 92, almost 30 fukking years, the few brief and fleeting moments of success we've had have happened when the Wilpons were forced to sit out. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter who the GM is or the manager, the story always ends the same, it's like the movie groundhogs day. It's the same story, bad trades, bad free agent signings, poor player development, lack of going the extra mile when then Mets are actually good. They didn't try to get back after 06 or 15 they actually got worse, anonymously slamming players in the press when they start rocking the boat a little. It's been the same thing rinse and repeat my entire fandom. Mickey deserves to be fired, and it may spark the team for a bit but at the end of the day it'll be the same ol story and the only constant will be the Wilpon's.
 

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Cano will never get benched, he has 5 years left on his contact at 20+ million a year. He's our number 3 hitter for the next 5 years. The Cano trade will go down as the worst trade in franchise history, worse than Ryan for Fregosi, worse than Dykstra and McDowell for Samual, worse than Kazmir for zambrano. Next year Kelenic will be a top 20-30 prospect, Cano will continue to get even worse than he is now, but his contract will cripple the Mets financial flexibility for the next 5 years.
All cuz they thought Boricua K-Rod was worth it
 

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Nah getting an old washed up Yankee has Fred's fingerprints all over getting cano
in fairness, Yankees love going after ex-Mets for the same reason, even though with Cano, we got over it.

Playing Cespedes 1 game just to screw us over and then shutting him down afterward, THAT was a Wilponian move.

I can guarantee you regardless of where the Mets are in the standings, no matter who they played, please believe the pitchers for the first weekend at Yankee Stadium will be DeGrom, Thor and Wheeler. That's a Fred/Jeff move.
 

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in fairness, Yankees love going after ex-Mets for the same reason, even though with Cano, we got over it.

Playing Cespedes 1 game just to screw us over and then shutting him down afterward, THAT was a Wilponian move.

I can guarantee you regardless of where the Mets are in the standings, no matter who they played, please believe the pitchers for the first weekend at Yankee Stadium will be DeGrom, Thor and Wheeler. That's a Fred/Jeff move.
That cespedes move was one of the dumbest fukking thing they've ever done. And in typical Wilpon fashion they anonymously leaked to the media that Ces wasn't being tough enough.
 

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Mickey deserves to be fired, he is not a good manager, but this is also not his fault. This all falls on the Wilpons. Look at the teams history going back to when Doubleday bought the team in the early 80's. He turned them from the biggest joke in baseball to a world champion within a few years. Not just that, they had a great farm. Doubleday was a hands Off owner that let the baseball people do their work. After 86 Fred Wilpon became a majority owner and everything started to gradually crumble. Fred was a hands on owner and who thought he knew baseball. The Mets became the biggest joke in baseball by 93. Things didn't change until 98 when Doubleday finally said enough is enough and overruled Wilpon on trading for Piazza. Fred Wilpon did not want to trade for Piazza and he didn't want to resign Piazza. Doubleday left and the Mets went back to that mediocrity of the early 90's until Minaya became GM and they were hands off for a season or two. The Mets were a game away from going to the world series. But then the Wilpons couldn't help themselves and it all went down hill again. Then Sandy came in and MLB basically forced the Wilpons to butt out and it took a while but they went to a world series. But the Wilpons can't help themselves. Close enough is good enough for them, now we're back to being a joke. Ive been a fan since 92, almost 30 fukking years, the few brief and fleeting moments of success we've had have happened when the Wilpons were forced to sit out. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter who the GM is or the manager, the story always ends the same, it's like the movie groundhogs day. It's the same story, bad trades, bad free agent signings, poor player development, lack of going the extra mile when then Mets are actually good. They didn't try to get back after 06 or 15 they actually got worse, anonymously slamming players in the press when they start rocking the boat a little. It's been the same thing rinse and repeat my entire fandom. Mickey deserves to be fired, and it may spark the team for a bit but at the end of the day it'll be the same ol story and the only constant will be the Wilpon's.

Sandy didn't come in. He was imposed on the Wilpons by MLB to get their finances in order after the Madoff scandal. They were also broke at the time and MLB had been floating them loans to remain operational.
 

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Sandy didn't come in. He was imposed on the Wilpons by MLB to get their finances in order after the Madoff scandal. They were also broke at the time and MLB had been floating them loans to remain operational.
Selig and Manfred are pals with the Wilpons. Couldn't force them to sell like McCourt and the Dodgers
 
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